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    <title>Community: Message List - Does the valve HD100 sound get better then louder it is?</title>
    <link>http://line6.com/community/community/support/amplifiers/spidervalve?view=discussions</link>
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    <pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:02:06 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Does the valve HD100 sound get better then louder it is?</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/community/message/45763?tstart=0#45763</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:62c6e5d6-9b26-4f5f-a24a-ef3c2fe6da5b] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;Yeah!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think I´m ordering one, I live in sweden so, no free shipping, I gues those 20 bucks for fast delivery won´t hurt that much.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;//Edde&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:62c6e5d6-9b26-4f5f-a24a-ef3c2fe6da5b] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:02:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/community/message/45763?tstart=0#45763</guid>
      <dc:date>2009-07-02T21:02:06Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>4 months, 3 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Does the valve HD100 sound get better then louder it is?</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/community/message/45610?tstart=0#45610</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:975f2c36-ce0a-441d-aecc-311ae823008d] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;Man, that looks like a nice deal! Hand wired and good components, I think I may have to try it, too! &lt;img height="16px" src="http://line6.com/community/images/emoticons/laugh.gif" width="16px"/&gt; For $50 it's not too bad.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;cgtrox &lt;img height="16px" src="http://line6.com/community/images/emoticons/cool.gif" width="16px"/&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:975f2c36-ce0a-441d-aecc-311ae823008d] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:12:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/community/message/45610?tstart=0#45610</guid>
      <dc:date>2009-07-02T15:12:14Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>4 months, 3 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
      <clearspace:replyCount>1</clearspace:replyCount>
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      <title>Re: Does the valve HD100 sound get better then louder it is?</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/community/message/45542?tstart=0#45542</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:bc39a6ea-91b9-41f2-ab50-db8902d40788] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;Guys!!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What do you think about this attenuator?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Output-Tamer-Attenuator-Power-Soak-8-ohm-version_W0QQitemZ300319880904QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item45ec75b6c8&amp;amp;_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177&amp;amp;_trkparms=240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50"&gt;http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Output-Tamer-Attenuator-Power-Soak-8-ohm-version_W0QQitemZ300319880904QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item45ec75b6c8&amp;amp;_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177&amp;amp;_trkparms=240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;//Edde&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:bc39a6ea-91b9-41f2-ab50-db8902d40788] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 10:26:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/community/message/45542?tstart=0#45542</guid>
      <dc:date>2009-07-02T10:26:03Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>4 months, 3 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
      <clearspace:replyCount>2</clearspace:replyCount>
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      <title>Re: Does the valve HD100 sound get better then louder it is?</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/community/message/45418?tstart=0#45418</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:9856f2d5-a335-4ac2-9f98-631fa666947e] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanx againg!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Very helpfull answers!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Can you recommend any cheap attenuator?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;//Edde&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:9856f2d5-a335-4ac2-9f98-631fa666947e] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:22:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/community/message/45418?tstart=0#45418</guid>
      <dc:date>2009-07-01T21:22:16Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>4 months, 3 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Does the valve HD100 sound get better then louder it is?</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/community/message/45398?tstart=0#45398</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:667d0925-36c6-423d-9c96-cff94c87f627] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;It makes absolutely no difference.  The channel volume exists only to level your volume between patches.  Ideally, if you're trying to get the tubes cooking, it's all going to depend on having the master and channel high enough so that you're pushing the output, but yet not have the master so high that your channel volume is super loud even at 7:00.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:667d0925-36c6-423d-9c96-cff94c87f627] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:57:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/community/message/45398?tstart=0#45398</guid>
      <dc:date>2009-07-01T19:57:47Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>4 months, 3 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
      <clearspace:replyCount>1</clearspace:replyCount>
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      <title>Re: Does the valve HD100 sound get better then louder it is?</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/community/message/45375?tstart=0#45375</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:4c273070-2c7e-408b-b307-48eca83327fa] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;Got it!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What do you think is better then? tonewise, have a high channel volume and low master or low channel volume and high master?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;//Edde&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:4c273070-2c7e-408b-b307-48eca83327fa] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:50:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/community/message/45375?tstart=0#45375</guid>
      <dc:date>2009-07-01T18:50:26Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>4 months, 3 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
      <clearspace:replyCount>2</clearspace:replyCount>
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    <item>
      <title>Re: Does the valve HD100 sound get better then louder it is?</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/community/message/45334?tstart=0#45334</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:44312ee1-4db8-4434-b466-f6887be7a6f4] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;To be more clear, what you have described is essentially setting up your SV as a non-master volume amp.  So in effect, you'll drive the power section harder as you turn the channel volume up.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:44312ee1-4db8-4434-b466-f6887be7a6f4] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:26:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/community/message/45334?tstart=0#45334</guid>
      <dc:date>2009-07-01T16:26:05Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>4 months, 3 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
      <clearspace:replyCount>3</clearspace:replyCount>
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      <title>Re: Does the valve HD100 sound get better then louder it is?</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/community/message/45332?tstart=0#45332</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:af9c3912-e480-41bd-9ca2-47aaa3e00f2f] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ok! thanks!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:af9c3912-e480-41bd-9ca2-47aaa3e00f2f] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:22:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/community/message/45332?tstart=0#45332</guid>
      <dc:date>2009-07-01T16:22:45Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>4 months, 3 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
      <clearspace:replyCount>4</clearspace:replyCount>
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      <title>Re: Does the valve HD100 sound get better then louder it is?</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/community/message/45301?tstart=0#45301</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:8a836ef8-b5fa-44dc-b589-65da61caf77e] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;div class="jive-quote"&gt;&lt;p&gt;lidyan wrote:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I use the master all the way to 11 &lt;img height="16px" src="http://line6.com/community/images/emoticons/happy.gif" width="16px"/&gt;  and I use the channel volume to hgher or lower my volume. Isn´t the same as having power brake och volume controller on the FXloop? arent´the powertubes bieng driven to it´s max?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The answer is no.  You are not driving the power tubes harder because you are limiting what gets sent to the power section by lowering the channel volume.  It's not functioning like an attenuator.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:8a836ef8-b5fa-44dc-b589-65da61caf77e] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:07:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/community/message/45301?tstart=0#45301</guid>
      <dc:date>2009-07-01T15:07:41Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>4 months, 3 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
      <clearspace:replyCount>5</clearspace:replyCount>
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      <title>Re: Does the valve HD100 sound get better then louder it is?</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/community/message/45233?tstart=0#45233</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:25f126eb-561b-44e6-89c4-5c61c5d0cc01] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hi!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Just one question about volume. You guys are talking about power attenuator etc.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I use the master all the way to 11 &lt;img height="16px" src="http://line6.com/community/images/emoticons/happy.gif" width="16px"/&gt;  and I use the channel volume to hgher or lower my volume. Isn´t the same as having power brake och volume controller on the FXloop? arent´the powertubes bieng driven to it´s max?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;//Edde&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:25f126eb-561b-44e6-89c4-5c61c5d0cc01] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 07:00:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/community/message/45233?tstart=0#45233</guid>
      <dc:date>2009-07-01T07:00:23Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>4 months, 3 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
      <clearspace:replyCount>6</clearspace:replyCount>
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