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Metaldude   4 posts since
Feb 25, 2007
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Oct 25, 2009 8:08 AM

Need a little help with my UX2

Hi there,

 

recently got the UX2 + pod farm add-ons so I could enjoy a line6 audio interface without usb audio drop-outs.

I also own the X3, but the drop-outs made it impossible to use as interface.

But my question:

Is there a way to plug something in the stereo Line inputs and not have to open pod farm with latency and all that?

Lowering the latency all the way doesn't remove the latency completely.

The inputs only start working when I open pod farm or cubase... isn't this strange for a normal stereo line input??

I don't want this, I just want to monitor the line stereo channel in real time.. whenever i want in windows...

I can switch to the pod to do this (somehow the pod x3l has no problem doing this...) but I don't want to have to switch back and forth all the time because of the drop-outs...

So If anyone knows, help would be awesome!

Thanks!

fester2000 Iknowathingortwo 688 posts since
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1. Oct 25, 2009 9:00 AM in response to: Metaldude
Re: Need a little help with my UX2

Metaldude wrote:

 

Hi there,

 

recently got the UX2 + pod farm add-ons so I could enjoy a line6 audio interface without usb audio drop-outs.

I also own the X3, but the drop-outs made it impossible to use as interface.

But my question:

Is there a way to plug something in the stereo Line inputs and not have to open pod farm with latency and all that?

Lowering the latency all the way doesn't remove the latency completely.

The inputs only start working when I open pod farm or cubase... isn't this strange for a normal stereo line input??

I don't want this, I just want to monitor the line stereo channel in real time.. whenever i want in windows...

I can switch to the pod to do this (somehow the pod x3l has no problem doing this...) but I don't want to have to switch back and forth all the time because of the drop-outs...

So If anyone knows, help would be awesome!

Thanks!

You really shouldn't be hearing any latency when you open an use podfarm with the UX2 -- don't monitor your guitar signal in cubase, just monitor it through Podfarm and you really should be getting next to zero latency -- this is the miracle of "tone direct" monitoring.

 

When you run it this way, you should be able to run just using the line inputs in windows without any other software necessary. If you're actually hearing latency using the tonedirect monitoring, then I'd suggest dialing down the buffer size in the L6 control panel.  If that doesn't work, post again and give us more details about your setup.

 

Cheers,

 

Fester2k

Slingy Juststartin' 197 posts since
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3. Oct 25, 2009 10:10 AM in response to: Metaldude
Re: Need a little help with my UX2

Oh this is an easy one. Go to All Programs/Line6/Tools/Line6 Audio-Midi Devices. On the inputs and recording tab select Line Stereo. Or if your signal is mono then just do Line 1 or 2. This will now be the default live input whether you open Podfarm or not.

Slingy Juststartin' 197 posts since
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5. Oct 25, 2009 10:28 AM in response to: Metaldude
Re: Need a little help with my UX2

Strange, mine is showing the same behavior. I'm sure that is how it should work and that it worked before. Maybe we can get some help from Line 6 on this.

bumpyroad   134 posts since
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6. Oct 25, 2009 11:18 AM in response to: Metaldude
Re: Need a little help with my UX2

Toneports use two different drivers - asio and windows wdm or mme. When you play mp3s or utube you are using Windows drivers which are no good for recording.

 

I Cubase - the default driver is multimedia asio - which is a Windows driver with lots of latency. You can change that to toneport asio and you should get good results. And if Cubase crashes for any reason - it defaults back to the multimedia asio.

 

But it depends on how you are hooking things up.

 

If you are plugging the analog outs into another sound card - then the latency depends on that sound card and its drivers.

 

So how are you routing the signal?

bumpyroad   134 posts since
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8. Oct 26, 2009 9:27 AM in response to: Metaldude
Re: Need a little help with my UX2

In Windows control panel - audio settings - if the UX2 is the default playback device - all sounds will use it.

 

The signal will go out the analog outs and the headphones at the same time.

 

You can plug either of those into speakers or another sound card. But if you use a different sound card then you would record from it which means double ad/da conversion - so the latency may be worse.

Slingy Juststartin' 197 posts since
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9. Oct 26, 2009 9:40 AM in response to: bumpyroad
Re: Need a little help with my UX2

Metaldude just wants his Line Inputs active without Podfarm on. Like if you had a cd player plugged in there, it would be such a pain to open Podfarm every time.

 

Now I could have sworn it used to work this way, having one live input of your choice. Can anyone get any live input with Podfarm off and no other program open? Possibly a simple driver update by Line6 could fix it.

 

I would start a support request with Line6, they likely wont see this thread.

Slingy Juststartin' 197 posts since
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10. Oct 26, 2009 9:58 AM in response to: Metaldude
Re: Need a little help with my UX2

Not the solution, but a possible workaround the stereo monitor jack is always active. You can't record from it though. But you could send two signals, one to inputs and one to the monitor.

bumpyroad   134 posts since
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11. Oct 26, 2009 10:20 AM in response to: Slingy
Re: Need a little help with my UX2

I'm not sure I understand the question.

 

Without Pod Farm open - there is still a dry signal that goes to the Daw - so you can use a plugin. It would be like recording the tuner.

 

Is that the question?

Slingy Juststartin' 197 posts since
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12. Oct 26, 2009 10:26 AM in response to: Metaldude
Re: Need a little help with my UX2

That's correct. But the DAW has to be open or you can't hear it through the analog outs.

 

I think my UX2 is using Windows Drivers when Podfarm is off, Vista is so lame.

bumpyroad   134 posts since
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13. Oct 26, 2009 11:06 AM in response to: Slingy
Re: Need a little help with my UX2

Programs like Audacity or BIAB can use the Toneport drivers - but they don't support asio - so there will always be lots of latency.

 

And considering that the guitar signal goes first over usb - gets processed on the PC and back to the Toneport - routing it from there to another sound card isn't going to improve the latency. If he had a high quality low latency sound card - he would have to plug the guitar into it instead.

 

I never believe that tonedirect isn't low enough latency - but that's just one of my theories and I don't want to argue that maybe some people can actually notice it. I certainly don't.

 

As far as recording from the analog outs - I have plugged the outs into the analog in - then selected the ins as a recording source to record "what you hear" from the internet.

 

Other than that - being that the UX1 is my sound card - any sound it plays go out the analog outs - except the guitar if Pod Farm or Gearbox or a plugin wasn't processing the signal.

bumpyroad   134 posts since
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14. Oct 26, 2009 3:01 PM in response to: bumpyroad
Re: Need a little help with my UX2

It's possible that there is a bottleneck with the usb - such as a hub or external harddrives running at the same time. Or a flaky Intel usb chipset.

 

Installing Pod Farm on a different PC may help narrow it down.

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