This will not happen on the M13 ever. I may need to take the 36 extra scenes away if I get this request to many times. The extra scenes are mostly for guys who want to put the M13 on a rack shelf and control it and their amps with say, a ground control. I was going to make the 48 scenes only accessible via Midi but thought that the guy who uses M13 stand alone would appreciate the extra 36 scenes even though changing to them would mean them bending down a couple times in a set to change folders. If too many get dismayed or upset with having to bend over I will solve it by taking them away except via midi. We spent a good amount of time thinking of alternate scene modes that may be able to do this and at the end of the day, we want the M13 as super easy and what you see is what you get as possible. So this was the most simple way to add a cool function to the unit without making it complicated. Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts. I knew some guys would want a better way to change the folder and knew I would have to say know but I was confident that they would still be glad for the extra scenes.

I guess no good deed goes unpunished, huh, Rich?

Personally, I haven't even really gotten to take advantage of the extra scenes.  I guess it depends on how you use it the M13.  If you use it only in latch scene mode and truly treat a scene like a preset, then it would be nice to have access to all 48 scenes just by using the stomp switches alone in some way.  However, even have 12 scenes available to you any, that gives you a lot of flexibility.  It doesn't seem too bad to have to bend down to turn the knob, really.  I remember when I had to bend over to turn the knobs of my Tubescreamer or other pedal between songs...   I'd have a little cheat sheet showing knob positions and such.  Man, how quickly we get spoiled.

hi, to use the m13 rack, and have and change of 48 scenes available at all times as a preset, midi controller that you recommend? ground control? or other?

thank you very much!

Never mind... I accidentally replied to an old thread.

many users who ask to enter the folders with your feet! greetings!! thanks hugo !

"line 6! no costing them! nothing ......... I love my m13 !"

Unfortunately, this is not true.  It does cost to implement a new feature.  I has to be spec'ed, coded,  unit tested, system tested, then distributed.  This is not free. Just like every company, I am sure they add new features for one of two reasons (1) to fix defects, (2) to win potential new customers over to their product. If the cost of implementing a new feature does not ultimately result in more revenue (either short term or long term), I suspect it would not be implemented. This is a company after all, who is trying to make money.  If they dont make money, they wont be in business.

Personally, I am appreciative that they did put in a lot of new features since the first release.  I liked that they bumped it up to 48 scenes.

At first I had a hard time getting my head around scenes.  I thought, "why did they not make patches, just like everyone else?".  Then I started getting use to it, and realized, they are like patches.  12 patches (scenes) in 4 banks (folders), with the added bonus that each effect in the patch can have three flavors.  What we are asking for the ability to switch "banks" (i.e. folders) with a midi controller.  This would make it operate better live, just like other foot programmable devices, GT10, RP1000, Nova, etc.

I am a tone snob.  All my tone buddies are appalled that I purchased a line6 pedal board. But, I did not buy it for the tone, although they are pretty good.  THE biggest reason I purchased the unit is because of the convience of scenes, and recalling settings.  I compromised some of my boutique pedal tone for the convienience of pressing a footswitch to instantly go from tele twang to 70s crunch, to EVH tone (although I have to switch guitars!).  Adding a midi controller to switch scene folders would just make it that much better for me, and perhaps other customers like me.