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Re: Why does POD HD series have fewer amp models than previous PODs?

support@line6.com — Wed, 20 Mar 2013 22:23:39 GMT

I guess you can't please everyone, perhaps Line6 should assign a certain amount of memory for amps and effects into the unit, then you hook the rig up online and download the ones you want to specifically use, the same way we d/l the patches from Customtone.

Re: Why does POD HD series have fewer amp models than previous PODs?

support@line6.com — Wed, 20 Mar 2013 04:40:48 GMT

I cannot disagree with the the opinion that some of the new models are very good. I haven't tried the POD HD as a front to a power amp/spkr combination. Perhaps that will be a pleasant surprise. But I mostly use the Pod direct to a Mixer/FOH. I might also feed it into a Keyboard amp or other clean source like a

Powered Moniter aimed back at me if I need more stage Vol.

I can say this, If L6 used up valuable R and D time to make spaceship noises and just goofy, non usable "funny sounding" stuff,(ie.HD stoner banks)

I have to maintain, that it was a mistake.

I would have preferred they use resources to produce more of the popular and desirable amp ( I want my Cheiftain back! ) models that are hard to get than so many stomp box sounds most ppl do not use. I haven't decided that some stomps are even accurate representations.

I don't need 12 variations of a Marshall,(like the XT model) but there are some really really cool amps out there. I know that L6 knows it too. I think it's high time they bring the HD potential to the next level.

I've been patient...now I'm not so patient anymore. My worst fear is that this HD platform will be supplanted by the "NEXT BEST" product platform. The lack of upgrades and avalability makes me a little worried that maybe they've already decided on the platform's end of life.

I'm still using my 2.0 and it's still holding it's own. I do see that they still have it and the Floor pod Plus(basicaly a 2.0) in their product line, while some others have been moved out. Still goin strong after 3 generations of upgrades. OK enough of the rants....thanks to anyone who suffered through...

Would love to hear some HD upgrade news soon.

Re: Why does POD HD series have fewer amp models than previous PODs?

support@line6.com — Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:34:32 GMT

Personnally, I am happy with the Amp modelling and can get a good tone or two from any of the Amps cab and mic combos.

Sure more would be great but to me the area I'd like to see improved is the FX. Some are good but as it has been put before; fewer better quality is better than a bunch of mediocre ones. This would have a crippling effect on the opposition.

What might be the case for the amount of Amp compared to very earlier PODs is the available storage memory.

Re: Why does POD HD series have fewer amp models than previous PODs?

support@line6.com — Mon, 18 Mar 2013 22:56:52 GMT

As a POD Version 1 owner. It took me some time to figure out how to coax the sounds I wanted out of the unit. Front panel editing was difficult at best, The Editing software that came with POD 1, was a little buggy as well, but it eventually helped me to "see" and exploit the possiblities. I A/B'd my own Matchless Cheiftain with the 2.0 Version. I believe that I got it down pretty good, although it took a while. I use it live with wonderful(not perfect) results. I still do..... AND I get complimented often on my tone from other musicians.

Guitarists are quite curious as to how I managed to do this. Even turned heads of the hardcore Tube amp snobs and techno phobes.

IMO...XT was a big disappointment...I complained, many times what did you guys do? A: Oh Well we made it better....really? gone were the Dumble models and some others to make room for like 10 variations of Marshall amps. If you can appreciate the sound of a Dumble amp, then you'll know it's nearly impossible to get your hands on one. I could go on...

X3 I totally skipped on good advice from someone in the know. It's essentially a faster XT. woop woop.

Now I finally bit again and bought an HD desktop and HD500. After the initial upgrade, I called support to see what might be out on the horizon

for the HD line. I was told it's going to be an evolving platform. that was about a year ago....not peep since. Yes there are some decent sounds

there. They stripped most of my ESSENTIAL models and refuse to give me any more info regarding upgrade paths.

I've been trying to evolve past the 2.0 because some of the newer features would be and could be very useful to me. But If Im doing a small gig, it's the POD 2.0.

The XT live is used only the digital input for my L6 Variax acoustic . fairly clean preamp and EQ into the mixer. Never even tried to use an XT amp model live.

they're just not that good.

So I use the POD 2.0....it's really a good unit. The XT? I can only use the Acoustic guitar(vax) clean, no amp models sound good to my ear, I can hear digital noise in the XT. Very annoying......

The Pod HD..?? Well it's now March 2013 and unless R and D gets moving PDQ, theHD's AND a few XT's that I own are going away.

Just my .02

Sid

Re: Why does POD HD series have fewer amp models than previous PODs?

support@line6.com — Fri, 02 Mar 2012 06:02:04 GMT

Quality over quantity. If you want more amps, just use POD Farm.

Re: Why does POD HD series have fewer amp models than previous PODs?

support@line6.com — Thu, 24 Nov 2011 00:04:24 GMT

+1+1 couldn't have said it better.

Re: Why does POD HD series have fewer amp models than previous PODs?

support@line6.com — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 23:57:42 GMT

litesnsirens wrote:

..... I think it's pointless to argue about all this, we all have different playing styles and needs. They offered what they offered, all the info was and still is clearly laid out on the website as to what amps are included ..

Line 6 could have dozens more amps in there, and a thread requesting more and different models would still be started up again..........

Re: Why does POD HD series have fewer amp models than previous PODs?

support@line6.com — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 22:59:38 GMT

Isn't the PHd the name they use for the Dr.Z model?? Personally I think it's one of the best models in the whole bunch. I think it's pointless to argue about all this, we all have different playing styles and needs. They offered what they offered, all the info was and still is clearly laid out on the website as to what amps are included and that they started from scratch so that they could get better detail and ultimately a more realistic playing experience. IMO they accomplished that, prior to playing the HD500 I had never played a modeler that I liked, I'm totally sold on the HD500. I don't recall reading anything on the site that even suggested that they were going to offer more models although the fact that they have done this with the predecessors has everyone hopeful. I think it's safe to say that those of us who researched the HD500 prior to buying and had an idea of what the amps were that were included sounded like would be happy with the purchase. Prior to moving to the modelling, I was spending 4X as much on a single tube amp that I relied on for everything, so this is a luxury to me. I know other guys that would cart around a Marshall DSL and a Fender Twin to cover off what they needed. Despite my own personal satisfaction with the product, I honestly hope they will bring out some models that will meet everyone else's needs, I don't like to see anyone left out of the mix with a product this good.

Re: Why does POD HD series have fewer amp models than previous PODs?

support@line6.com — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 22:03:34 GMT

Dr. Z is a pretty mainstream amp manufacturer. I mean they have them in a Toyota Prius commercial now... Can't get much more mainstream than that...

Re: Why does POD HD series have fewer amp models than previous PODs?

support@line6.com — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 21:51:20 GMT

I agree in part but what I am saying is that the amps selected do not represent the best choice available to Line 6. To include Supro, PHd and DoctorZ & to a lesser extent the Hiwatt in preference to some considerably better vintage amps is just plain weird. It needs better selction of vintage amps. The Gibtone is good but its not the best they could have had. The modern sound of a Marshall after the JCM800 is not there either nor is Marshall ultra Vintage tone represented except by the Park which had a different set of valves to the true Vintage Marshalls. HD500 was not for me unless they can get the amp selection sorted to be more representative. I currently find it too be quircky.