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Re: Enter Sandman / Metallica

support@line6.com — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 21:05:16 GMT

Hi Wolbai, thanks for your tips on the acoustic FX loop to the PA. I just had to a chance to set-up and works really well. I appreciate the point on the Line vs Stompbox as that makes a big difference.

Re: Enter Sandman / Metallica

support@line6.com — Mon, 24 Dec 2012 16:30:24 GMT

Hi guilhermebreda,

great that you like my playing/recording!

Actually - as I already said - I am not really a Heavy Metal / Death Metal / etc. fan. The existing POD-HD Hi-Gain amp models are all I personally need for my type of music. The Treadplate (Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier) is another good Hi-Gain Amp to me. The Amp model sounds instantly very good. No need for special tweaking.

I received from other forums some good tips for recording Hi-gain Death Metal Rhythm Tones like:

Use 6 tracks for recording (that is what Metallica had done), pan them in the stereo panorama and EQ-them differently. This produces this "Wall of sound".

And there are some dedicated frequencies to push or reduce.

For Live performance the challenge is different how to get a "Wall of sound" with 1 (?) guitar player:

I am using a little delay (20 ms) on one channel post amp and a little chorus post amp which thickens up the tone.

wolbai

Re: Enter Sandman / Metallica

support@line6.com — Mon, 24 Dec 2012 04:38:20 GMT

Awesome recording, you did a great job!

I really liked the way you dial the distortion and fx.

The Soldano sim sounds great, but I miss some other high gain amps like Diezel VH4.

Re: Enter Sandman / Metallica

support@line6.com — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:21:18 GMT

Hi msttomervo,

thanks - I appreciate your feedback!

As a Hobby Cover Rock Musician it is awesome to play with a DT50 / HD500 / JTV59 + JVT69. I am the only guitarist in the band and I need a lot of sound flexibility. Especially on songs with Acoustic AND Electric guitar this rig is outstanding to me.

By the way: I have read your Thread regarding JTV Acoustics and PA:

I root my Acoustics like some others in the Thread. I use the FX Send with FX Loop at the very end of the signal chain. No Amp and some effects. You can add more gain if you need not only with the mixer volume, but also with some effect pedals like the Studio EQ (right before FX Loop block) by increasing the gain knob. This effect pedal doesn't color your sound.

The FX interface is a stereo interface. That means that with any stereo effect in the signal chain you can root stereo Acoustic sound to your PA-Mixer. For taht purpose I am using a Stereo DI-Box between HD500 and the PA-Mixer. The FX signal level knob should be switch to LINE (I have set it initially wrong to Stompbox). The JTV Acoustic sound is rooted back to my floor monitor.

wolbai

Re: Enter Sandman / Metallica

support@line6.com — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:51:22 GMT

Excellent job playing and recording. Very professional. Great example of Dream Rig at work.

Enter Sandman / Metallica

support@line6.com — Wed, 12 Dec 2012 21:53:20 GMT

Actually I am not at all a Heavy metal fan and guitar player.

But Enter Sandman is an awesome song and a challenge for every guitar player / band, if the song is going to be well performed.

With Songs on that calibre I like to record to dive into them. This is a smart way to learn them AND to gain sometimes a quite reasonable recording at the end.

I have used a playback for the recording containing Vocals, Bass and Drums. The playback sounds good to me and it is free of charge:

(http://www.guitarbackingtrack.com/play/ ... 283%29.htm)

The first part is recorded with the 6-string Acoustic Model Gibson J-200 on my JTV69. I have used a little Flanger and Chorus as effects.

For the Rhytm guitar and Leadpart I am using the Soldano Overdrive Full Amp Modell with standard cab/mic. For later Live performance I will use the Pre Amp Models. I have experienced that my live presets usually are quite different to recording presets, because this actually a different level of acoustic challenges. The guitar model for these parts are played with the Lester-1.

For the Rhytmn-part I have used a 20ms delay on one channel post amp and a little Chorus (Dimension - SW2+3 are off and with 15% mix).

In front of the amp I am using my standard distortion pedal Screamer with a Drive at 35%, both for Rhytmn and Leadpart.

I have EQed the Rhytmn guitar in Cubase to achieve a good sound balance between Bass and guitar.

The recording was done with my HD500, an audiointerface and Cubase recording software.

The Leadpart with a Wah-Wah (Wheeper) is more improvised and somehow a Quick&Dirty recording. Some licks are from the original. But this mix of having some choatic wildness is what this song actually needs, I guess. The original solo sounds also heavily imrprovised to me. So I think it is ok not to play very hard along the Original track.

The Scales for the Leadparts are brilliant and typical Heavy metal (as far I can see with my limited knowledge of Heavy metal music and guitar playing):

- Em Aeolean-Mode

- F# Phrygian-Mode

http://www.soundclick.com/player/single ... i&newref=1

I am interesseted in any feedback to the sound and playing style. Especially in the Rhytmn- and Leadpart guitar sound, because this is not my natural home base.

Thanks for reading and listening.

wolbai