Quick Changes For Vocals During A Show

[1finger]

Hello men.

I'm wondering what the best way to change vocal effects on the fly , during a show ?

 

For example , your band is playing a song with a slapback type of delay on vocals , next song that comes up has no vocal delay , but some reverb and doubling. How do you set up quick vocal effect changes , that won't mess with the levels and mix of everything else as well ?

[SiWatts69]

Create Scenes.

 

Within a scene, you can modify any aspect of the mix.

 

So, if you create a scene for each song (or group of sings) you can cycle your way through them.

 

If you have an out front sound man, he just selects the correct scene as the song starts. There's negligible delay in the switchover from one scene to another.

 

If you're mixing on stage, someone will need to make the switch on-stage but again, it's pretty easy.

 

To alledgedly simplify matters, you can add a footswitch to control scenes too.BUT as I found, it's not as usable as I thought it would be.

[jeanpicasso]

I think theres some problems with the switch-scenes-solution.

 

if you want to do this, you have to make a compete soundcheck and adjustments, save the scene and then copy it to a new scene.

then make your fx ajustments, and save it as v2 of your scene.

now this can work very well, but... if you make ANY adjustment on either v1 or v2 of your scene, you will loose them when shifting between the scenes.

 

I might be all wrong. If i am, i just love my mixer even more :)

[jaminjimlp]

If you have an extra channel you could set up a second Mike channel and just switch the cable from one slot to the next and that would be pretty quick. No fuss no music.... However you may want to hit the mute all inputs button before pulling the plug and sliding in the next channel

[actdmusic]

I think theres some problems with the switch-scenes-solution.

 

if you want to do this, you have to make a compete soundcheck and adjustments, save the scene and then copy it to a new scene.

then make your fx ajustments, and save it as v2 of your scene.

now this can work very well, but... if you make ANY adjustment on either v1 or v2 of your scene, you will loose them when shifting between the scenes.

 

I might be all wrong. If i am, i just love my mixer even more :)

 

Yah! Never liked the scenes solution for this kind of application. A scene is a complete mix! I just want to turn fxs on and off!   

During the gig I'm always making little adjustments to the mix. If I change scene all is lost.

 

However, if you have someone doing sound is very easy to have the FX send level showing on the "Perform" view and adjust them on the fly...  

[jeanpicasso]

I just read it the OP again, and see that the request is to not just to have different levels but to change the effect type.

 

so I think this makes it even more difficult. keeping in mind that if you change the effect type for one channel, you change it for all channels. So you need to be careful that no other uses that effect "slot" on their channel.

[1finger]

No extra channels to have one mixed different and ready. I WISH this had more XLRs. They certainly Need MORE of these.

 

As far as FX , I WISH there were an "OFF" button under each global FX , instead of just the Tweak button.