aadrianperezz Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Hello world, I have a POD HD 500 X for a while now, but I've never been into that "deep stuff" cause' i've seen (for the comments and stuff) that you get the most about this unit if have dream rig and so on, or tube amps, or variax etc etc :P, but now im curious about the FX Loops. Sometimes i think i understand how it works but reading and searching randomly I get confuse with other peoples post including other forums. So without further ado, how does the fx loops works, how do I know if its better to use it with my amp or not using the 4 cable method?? I have a Laney LX65R (solid state, no tubes) and it had no effects whatsoever, only a clean channel and a crunch channel, and a reverb knob. Still it has FX send and FX return. If its worth it, then where do I place de FX loops in the signal chain?, does the order matter and why? Sorry if a ask too much but is that wanna now everything I need for the FX loop :P or its just an option for get the most out of some "cool" amps. Thanks in advanced people!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopfschmerzen Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Just google something like 'guitar effects order' and read some lessons. E.g. this one: http://www.justinguitar.com/en/GG-050-EffectsPedalOrder.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aadrianperezz Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 << Effects Loop send - if available >>if you have an effects loop then here is where you would use it! The reason for using an effects loop is to be able to use the distortion built into your amp - usually valve. I always use this if I can. Why spend a load of cash on your amp with nice valve distortion and then not use it? After the EQ you would plug into the front of your amp - then send the "send" to the Pitch effect, and then plug the "return" into your last pedal.---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This was written on the link you gave me, What if i don't like the dist on my amp?? then is not worth it to use the 4 cable method? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 << Effects Loop send - if available >> if you have an effects loop then here is where you would use it! The reason for using an effects loop is to be able to use the distortion built into your amp - usually valve. I always use this if I can. Why spend a load of cash on your amp with nice valve distortion and then not use it? After the EQ you would plug into the front of your amp - then send the "send" to the Pitch effect, and then plug the "return" into your last pedal. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This was written on the link you gave me, What if i don't like the dist on my amp?? then is not worth it to use the 4 cable method? If you don't like the amp's tone and only want to make use of its power section, then the 4 cable method is a waste of time. Just run guitar-->POD-->FX return on the amp. Your tone and all your fx will come from the POD, and all the amp will be doing is driving the speaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aadrianperezz Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 If you don't like the amp's tone and only want to make use of its power section, then the 4 cable method is a waste of time. Just run guitar-->POD-->FX return on the amp. Your tone and all your fx will come from the POD, and all the amp will be doing is driving the speaker. Oh I think I get it now, thanks for clarify :) Just google something like 'guitar effects order' and read some lessons. E.g. this one: http://www.justinguitar.com/en/GG-050-EffectsPedalOrder.php I kinda get it now with physical pedal effects, but in the case of the POD im not sure how its done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopfschmerzen Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I kinda get it now with physical pedal effects, but in the case of the POD im not sure how its done There are effects you want to place before an amp (either in POD or with a real amp), and effects you want to use in the effects loop of a real amp - that is, between a preamp and a power amp section. In POD it would be after an amp. FX loop of an amp is like a hole in the chain between pre and PA where you can plug whatever you want. If you introduce FX loop block (a hole) in a POD chain, you split the chain in two parts so you can add external effects to that hole, or route parts of the chain before a real amp and in the FX loop (a hole) of the real amp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aadrianperezz Posted April 15, 2015 Author Share Posted April 15, 2015 There are effects you want to place before an amp (either in POD or with a real amp), and effects you want to use in the effects loop of a real amp - that is, between a preamp and a power amp section. In POD it would be after an amp. FX loop of an amp is like a hole in the chain between pre and PA where you can plug whatever you want. If you introduce FX loop block (a hole) in a POD chain, you split the chain in two parts so you can add external effects to that hole, or route parts of the chain before a real amp and in the FX loop (a hole) of the real amp. this was a helpful explaining, thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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