Feb 19, 2010 2:49 PM
Let's get ready to RUMBLE
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This is an oldie but a goodie. I just had to do it.
Cheers,
Crusty
What I used:
Variax 700 - set to my own SG model that I built using Workbench
Guitar was recorded dry using POD X3 Pro
Re-amped using POD Farm Plugin in Sonar
Dums and bass are from MIDI using a Roland Sonic Cell as the sound module
POD models used were Brit Gain 18 with Bias Tremolo and I used the Modern preamp just for mastering.
Anyway, it was just a quick fun track to lay down.
Cheers,
Crusty
Let me know if you would like the Rumble patch.
Cheers,
Crusty
Crusty Wonder Down Under,
Guitar tone is perhaps a teensy bit harsh in my headphones, but otherwise good! Guitar playing is good! That one cymbal/ride is a bit machine-like: perhaps having more of a random velocity/volume would help. Otherwise, it sounds quite good!
It was just a quicky and yes the ride is very monotonous. I want the guitar to be a bit nasty and gritty to go along with the whole feel. I have tried it in a couple of sound systems and it seemed okay. Please let me know if it is not so harsh through some other sound system.
I just played with the levels to compensate for the tremolo kicking in.
I'll go back to the drawing board later to randomise and swing the ride cymbal.
Please take a listen to this one:
Please go back to the previous post for a swung version. I put some swing and randomness into the ride. Final mixdown and render was done using Reaper and I took a bit off the higher end on the EQ.
Cheers,
Crusty
I would play the tune on my iMac speakers, but my daughter just went to bed. I have only listened to it once before & that was 4 hours ago. It would appear that the guitar has less high frequency harshness & the ride has better volume randomness (both good), but now the drums seem too loud to me. I know my hearing is not 100% consistent, so if you're happy with the mix, that's more important than my opinion......OK, I'm listening to your old version again. Yes, I think you need to either turn the guitar UP or turn the drums DOWN, or a little of each (on the new mix). Then again, I know it might sound quite different on other headphones or a different sound system.
Thanks for the feedback, I'll do a little tweaking tomorrow. Taking some of the harshness out of the guitar means that it needs a bit more volume to show itself in the mix. Also I needed to lower the volume level as the mix level on the tremolo increased, so that has affected the mix particularly when the tremolo kicks in.
Cheers,
Crusty
Hey Aaron,
Please have a listen to the new on that I placed onto the earlier post. Your feedback has been great. I've just listened to it for too long, so it's good to get a less tainted perspective on the mix.
I'm going to put this on my phone as the ring tone.
Cheers,
Crusty
Crusty,
Your lastest is definitely the best. I can't listen to it very loud without the guitar hurting my ears though (with headphones).
Ha ha!!!
That's because I deliberately mastered it without any compression or limiting to tame the peaks. I will do a tamed version of it too but I wanted to get the relative levels right before doing a final that would be like listening to a regular recording.
Many moons ago I used T-Racks for mastering but I don't have it anymore. It was great. I'm going to have a dig through my VSTs to find a decent compressor/limiter for final mastering.
Thanks again for the feedback.
Cheers,
Crusty
It's a great tune to evaluate the software. Great demo tune. Cleanly played, a chord that will break up with distoshun and a lead run. I didn't hear any harshness in the tone at all. Very natural sounding. I thought AC/DC. SG/Marshall. It was a little too far out front. Like it was made for evaluating that particular tone. It needs another big meaty track to go with it. And a thumpin bass guitar. Then, all you need are some sophomoric lyrics and a good looking drunken singer with ********* the size of raisins and you're in business.
Come to think of it, all you really need is the good looking drunken singer with the aforementioned testicular deformity. ![]()
With Sonar, you can automate Pod Farm/Guitar Rig/Amplitube/Whatever in real time. As the track is playing. You can adjust most of the parameters on the fly. Change amp models, delay values, pop a compressor on for just a few seconds. And once its drawn on the track you just grab nodules to fine tune. Mind boggling. You can also add other effects and automate them in real time. When you get an automation you like, you can render that to audio and thus, release the load on your computer. Crusty's dry track can be manipulated in an almost unlimited way.
And with a track like this, you have time to really change things up between chords. You could speed up/down the tremolo. It would be impressive to go from a surfy-type vibe into a country feel and then progress to the rockin AC/DC without recording anything new. And, if you made a similar simple type lead on top, you could really genre-hop. Something simple with a few bends and sustained notes, some funky rythyms.
I'd take a crack at it.
Oh yea, we have Outback Steakhouse here and the commercials have a guy with the thickest accent I've ever heard. It's loik, crikey! Auootbaack Staikhowse! Like his nose is stopped up. As a Minnesota resident offended by the dialect in "Fargo", I thought I'd make you aware.
Hi Mikey1,
I wanted to keep this one close to the Line Wray original but to really show off just how authentic the amp modelling sounds. If you didn't know that was POD Farm you'd swear that was a real Marshall 1970x especially the way it blooms.
I did use the automation in Sonar to increase the mix on the tremolo it kicks in at about 30% on the dial stays there for a while and I then automated it to climb up to 60%. This also increased the overall level so I automated the tone volume control to drop slightly along with the increase in tremolo mix.
When I have some time I might do what you said with the dry track I could pump it through a Fender amp model then add trem for a surf feel, move it to another model with reverb and less trem for a country feel and then kick it into a triple rectumfrier for something completely different.
I could send you the dry tracks if you like. The bass track is a double bass not a bass guitar, I did that because the Link Wray original used a double bass.
It's funny about the Aussie accent, it's actually a big put on. When I travel overseas, people ask me where I'm from and when I tell them Australia they don't believe it. I have to put on that outrageous accent before anyone believes me. We don't actually talk like that at all, we put it on for the tourists and actors put it on when they want to make it obvious that they're Australian. Steve Urwin slapped it on nice and thick for the international market.
Cheers,
Crusty
I engineered The Vibro Champs, "Mr International". Vibro Champs drummer Gary Weiss was touring with Link Wray at the time. As Gary laid down his tracks, Link slept in the van in my driveway. Summer of 2005.
mikey,
That was an interesting story. When you have a compressor turn off & on during play back, don't you get a weird hiccup or anything? I have never turned compressor on & off like that; though I think I have adjusted amount while it plays.
I dont think so. I guess if the gain was bumped enough it might click. Although I dont use the guitar software compressors. If you tinkle with the delay on the fly you'll hear it unless you pick your spot well. With Sonar, you can even chop a section out of a track and just apply effects to that clip. Really handy.
I'd never heard of Link Wray. I wasn't even aware that Rumble was a Link Wray song. I thought Crusty wrote it. I had to google him.
In the movie "It Might Get Loud", they show Jimmy Page diggin' his "Rumble" vinyl record at home. Here is the movie trailer:
http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/06/09/it-might-get-loud-movie-trailer/
I watched it on DVD from Netflix. I often alter the amount of delay on my recordings, no problem. Just don't change the delay speed on the fly.
What is missing is an acoustic guitar in the mix, the original had that but it is way back in the mix.
Cheers,
Crusty
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