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Tombolino Just Startin'
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Mar 15, 2010 7:22 PM

LIVE OUT Switch, helpie help :)

Im still confused about the LIVE OUT switch.

 

Manual says that the Live out Level......."...when ste to "Live" , thyere ready toi plug into a mixer with line level inputs"

 

I have been testing back and forth between AMP and LINE  on my amp......it seems that it sounds louder and the tones a tad less muffled/opaque when on LINE. Up untl now I have been tweaking eveything set to AMP but now Im wondering.....if I should retweak to LINE even though I usually play to an amp....A lot of my sounds sound too loud when I switch to LINE. I wasl also playing around with some of Glen Delaunes patches and they sound good on both, but better on LINE. And I was doibng this on my amp

 

So now Im more confused....:)

  • BigChas52 Expert Line 6 User
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    Mar 15, 2010 7:45 PM (in response to Tombolino)
    Re: LIVE OUT Switch, helpie help :)

    Line level can be a bit hot for most amps, but if it sounds good to you then go for it.

    • Tombolino Just Startin'
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      Mar 15, 2010 8:12 PM (in response to BigChas52)
      Re: LIVE OUT Switch, helpie help :)

      thanks. Im still not clear what is its actual purpose and the manual doesnt say enough or much

      • BigChas52 Expert Line 6 User
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        Mar 15, 2010 8:21 PM (in response to Tombolino)
        Re: LIVE OUT Switch, helpie help :)

        The switch chooses between instrument or "AMP" level (which would be like the signal coming from your guitar), and line level (which is like the signal conming from an MP3 player or iPOD).  Line level is louder.  Amp level is better suited for use plugging into the front of an amplifyer, since the amp is expecting instrument level signal.  It will be much easier to control.

         

        On the other hand, a line level device, like the line-ins of a PA are expecting a hotter signal.  Amp level will not be loud enough for that.

         

        It's best to stick with AMP for the front of an amp, and LINE for line or aux inputs (your computer's aux inputs are line level), but if you are getting good results doing something different, then go for it.

        • Tombolino Just Startin'
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          Mar 15, 2010 9:26 PM (in response to BigChas52)
          Re: LIVE OUT Switch, helpie help :)

          thanks mate.

           

          Im goint to the Return of my amp. Would that change part of your answer at all?

           

          I should use LINE wether I use XLRS or 1/4? If I went just to PA?

          • tommasi Iknowathingortwo
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            Mar 16, 2010 2:07 AM (in response to Tombolino)
            Re: LIVE OUT Switch, helpie help :)

            If you're going into the fx return of the amp, then LINE is fine. You see, most preamps would be overloaded by a line-level signal, which is why you have the 'amp' position of the switch. FX returns however connect to the power amp only, bypassing the preamp, and as such expect a hotter signal -- which is why you get better results with the switch on 'line'.

             

            Oh, and one addition: the amp/line switch does not affect the XLR at all. The XLR signal is hotter than a mic signal, but not quite as hot as a line signal, so you still need some gain at the board.

          • BigChas52 Expert Line 6 User
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            Mar 16, 2010 5:17 AM (in response to Tombolino)
            Re: LIVE OUT Switch, helpie help :)

            Most amp returns are line level.  Line level is what you should be using, unless you find that your return is instrument level.  Some amps have a switch to allow you to choose between them.

            • Tombolino Just Startin'
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              Mar 16, 2010 6:54 AM (in response to BigChas52)
              Re: LIVE OUT Switch, helpie help :)

              thanks! So if my tones clip a little when going to Amps Return in AMP mode---because I tweaked them all in AMP switch----- all I gotta do is bring down volume of patches right? In other words, re-tweak to use LINE switch.......

              • BigChas52 Expert Line 6 User
                BigChas52
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                Mar 16, 2010 7:17 AM (in response to Tombolino)
                Re: LIVE OUT Switch, helpie help :)

                Tombolino wrote:

                 

                thanks! So if my tones clip a little when going to Amps Return in AMP mode---because I tweaked them all in AMP switch----- all I gotta do is bring down volume of patches right? In other words, re-tweak to use LINE switch.......

                Yes

                • Tombolino Just Startin'
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                  Mar 16, 2010 8:49 AM (in response to BigChas52)
                  Re: LIVE OUT Switch, helpie help :)

                  one more!

                   

                  Most folks here when they go straight to PA go via PODs XLRs?

                   

                  Im asking because this may explain what I think is my error....during the few times I have experimented with PA....I was going 1/4 POD Outs to PA.......Didnt sound optimal.

                  • TheRealZap Expert Line 6 User
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                    Mar 16, 2010 9:24 AM (in response to Tombolino)
                    Re: LIVE OUT Switch, helpie help :)

                    i actually come out of my pod using the 1/4"'s and use a strange insert cable to 1/4" stereo to feed my fender passport 250 portable PA...

                    not sure what most people do... but i'm happy with that.

                  • tommasi Iknowathingortwo
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                    Mar 16, 2010 9:24 AM (in response to Tombolino)
                    Re: LIVE OUT Switch, helpie help :)

                    I actually use 1/4" outs more often, as that allows me to use a single stereo channel rather than 2 mono ones -- sometimes we need many mixer channels. The 1/4" outs can be configured to carry the same signal (although unbalanced) as the XLRs when, in the output section, you configure them to 'match studio/direct'. When this is the case, the level is the only difference between the 2 sets of outputs.

                     

                    Unbalanced connections are more prone to EM interference, though, so I only do this for short cable runs. "sound-wise", however, the 2 output sets can carry the same stuff.

                  • BigChas52 Expert Line 6 User
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                    Mar 16, 2010 10:42 AM (in response to Tombolino)
                    Re: LIVE OUT Switch, helpie help :)

                    I just use the left XLR out direct to the PA, and I don't use any stereo effects.  Sounds fine.

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