Brion_Kean wrote:

 

For that matter, keep the Bean X3 too! You will probably want to do sound quality comparisons... Possibly?

I have 2 X3 Pros, 2 X3ls and one X3 bean. I am sure eventually I will get rid of a few of them and can ditch my XT Bean now.

For now at least I will keep some X3s around as there are too many models I will miss in HD at least in the beginning:

JCM 900 Clean

Matchless

Soldano

Plexi

Cornford

Budda

Line6 High Gain

Heck I want to mess around with sending vax to HD and mags to X3 or vice versa!

Leliel wrote:

 

Watching the PODHD400 Amp Switch i can see this models:

 

- Clean

- PawnShop (I think)

- Blues

- Boutique

- Class A

- Crunch

- Hi Gain

- Metal

 

With the red & blue channel of each one you got the 16 amps ... like the Spider series ...

Also, NOTHING like the Spider series.

In anticipation of an HD500, I just sold my M13, and am planning to sell the X3 Bean.  The M13 sale physically pained me; I loved it so.  I realize I acted rashly, now the question remains:  Have I also acted foolishly?  I know it can't possibly have the fast, comprehensive effects-switching flexibility of the M13; there just aren't enough buttons...but are all the effects models there?

Help me, Rich Renken, you are my only hope.

Can you at least give us an unofficial announcement of when the official announcement will be? 

http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/gear-and-equipment/127791-line-6s-answer-to-the-axefx-4.html

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=759493

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Originally Posted by richrenken Rich here guys. I want to jump in  here and answer questions and stuff but I have to run down to Tyler's  shop to talk about the new guitar. I answered a bunch of stuff over in another thread here. Can Line 6 answer the AxeFX and ElevenRack? - The Gear Page I will hit this thread when I get back.

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Originally Posted by richrenken I will let all of you guys comment  on what you think compared to the competition. It is so subjective. What  I will say is that we shoot to be like the amps we model. Getting to  that is our goal. So we have to wait till you guys get to go try these  products and the products that haven't been leaked.

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Originally Posted by richrenken Actually, I know a great many great players that do share that opinion. There are great artist that we know that use all kinds of gear one way or the other for various reasons, emotional and rational. Heck, even Todd Rundgren recorded his Arena album with Reason, a Tone  Port, and Riffworks. That is it. For good reasons for where he was at at  that point.

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Originally Posted by richrenken Did you miss the free update we did  to the M13 where we added about 20FX and the other 3 updates we  released as well as a release for the M9 that added some cool stuff like  reading midi beat clock for free? That said, we of course working on ways to make money so we can make the  stuff you are about to see. You have to pay for research and  development.

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Originally Posted by richrenken Hang tight, it is much much more. As soon as I can say, I will.

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Originally Posted by richrenken I will say that we did not just add the "HD".

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Originally Posted by richrenken It is more about the fact that  dealers and press are told that they can't "scoop" each other by  releasing info early. These leaks are accidents and so hard to stop from  happening. But we have to play fair. Even us. That is why I have to be  cool. I am saying that what is coming is amazing. It is so not just Spider IV  back into a POD. It is ground up, way way different. The birth of this  was started before I even came to Line 6 in 2005.

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Originally Posted by richrenken Someone here may have answered you  already. The effects in M13 were never in a POD product. They effects in  M13 came from the 4 button modelers and we added better converters and  more powerful DSP to open up the effects even more. The M13 effects  would not "fit" in POD. I had to fight to get Verbzilla into M13 because  we had to port it from the moto chip instead of just using the reverbs  from POD for "free". The photo of the HD500 is correct as to the ID. It may have some  photo-shopping in there because we take the pro pictures of a new  product and sometimes we make a change after that and we fix it in photo  shop. I can tell you that we learned a lot putting the M13 into the market and  the product manager for the HD500 was keeping that in the back of his  mind the whole time.

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Originally Posted by richrenken I can tell you this. We did not  leak these. Believe me, we are not happy about this at all. It is so so  hard to rope down every dealer, we have to get them information early so  they can build up their websites and have stuff ready to go. We have  even messed up ourselves and put up a webpage before we were supposed  to. Remember the bad Spider Valve sound sample videos that were temps  and everyone thought they were real? eeekkkkk...... Honestly though, we have never done what you are saying here. The only  on purpose leaking we did was for the original Spider Valve amp. Some  products we can just announce early like the new Variax or like we did  with M13, because it was new market for us. Of course we can't hurt  sales of current products by talking about future products.

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Originally Posted by richrenken I can't say anything for sure. But I can say that it would be strange to not keep cool features like that as we go forward. I never talk about other companies products. Stuff is too subjective. It  is classless and this is your forum not mine or Line 6's. I try to just  answer questions and clarify things. Believe me, I get upset,  passionate, and I have opinions on a lot of gear. I will say that our goal is to make our gear sound as great as the stuff  we model, not better than someone else's model. Make sense? I can't  wait for you guys to check this stuff out! So let me repost here my post in the other forum about how I am feeling personally about the new HD and adaptive amp coming. ============================= Let me put it this way. I have been working on the James Tyler Variax  and they are amazing and if they are Iron Man, the gear that is coming  that our guitar will hook up to is War Machine. Back to back  destruction.

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Originally Posted by richrenken We had an engineer in the other day  and he does major major rock records and he is dying to get one down to  their studio. I mix records and I can tell I would love hearing these  in a track.

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Originally Posted by richrenken I am probably already in trouble.   J/K. I asked if I could jump in and at least let you know that this is  next level, ground up, amazing. Just don't want there to be  misinformation out there.

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Originally Posted by richrenken No. Sorry to confuse you. The M13  effects are in the HD500. They fit. They would not fit in the X3. So  that should tell you where we are going with this HD500.

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Originally Posted by richrenken As soon as I can say I will. Got to keep a lid on for now.

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Originally Posted by richrenken Just can't talk about the product  itself for now. I know where the line is. I just wanted to calm down the  "its a Spider IV in a pedal with M13 effects talk". The cool thing about your guys guesses at figuring it out really showed  how we really have to emphasize that this is a ground up brand new thing  that is truly next level. If we just say, HD without really explaining  what is HD about it, I agree, who cares. But this was truly the best way  we thought of talking about this. That is precisely why we didn't call  it X4.

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Originally Posted by richrenken Oh, sorry. No the M-series isn't  going away because of the HD PODs anymore than the 4 button modelers  didn't go away because of the PODxts. They are for completely different  customers. We have ideas for the future of the Ms. But let's not turn this into the M thread.

Originally Posted by richrenken

I'm really exited for this PODHD ... I cant't wait anymore !!!!

The display on the photo of the HD500 still shows dual amps and cabs in the chain.  Interesting that it looks like they share the effects chain.  Not sure if that's a new feature or if they did away with independent chains entirely.  It would be really cool if they made the chains identical to how they are handled in whatever new version of POD Farm comes out too.  So messy having to create and tweak in Gear Box then copying the patch to POD Farm.  I hope they add sync to POD functionality to the POD Farm plugin.  Would be interesting if the new adaptive amps tie directly into the same chain as well for full control from a single display.

It's tough to market something as a "replacement" when you have 1/5th of the amp sims of what you are replacing.  I don't doubt the technology will be superior and thus easier to market as "Next-Gen".  It kind of impies there will be some feature set reset.  But if you read the quote below, it definitely sounds like if you can live with the lesser selection then it is X3L replacement on steroids.  The beauty of digital is they can always add the amps that people miss most as the models get updated and not bloat it with the unused models.

Originally Posted by richrenken