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Oct 17, 2010 4:57 AM

M13 in a parallel effects set up: How do you set it up?

I am trying to find out how you would set up the m13 through my serial fx loop in a parallel configuration.  The amp is a 2010 Carvin Bel-Air.  I know that you would use a line mixer, but I wanted to put a delay pedal in the effects loop of the m13 itself and I always thought it is best for every pedal to have there own independent channel on the mixer.  How would I set this up.  Please some let me know.

 

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  • phil_m Expert Line 6 User
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    Oct 17, 2010 12:19 PM (in response to ronaldkauffman)
    Re: M13 in a parallel effects set up: How do you set it up?

    I'm not sure I understand exactly what you want to do.  You can set up a wet/dry setup with multiple amps and the M13's loop, but there's not really anyway you can do that without some additional hardware, like an outboard mixer, with only one amp.  As far as separating out individual effects on the M13 - you can't.  You can do some neat things with the FX loop, but there's no way to have separate send and return for each FX module.

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      Oct 17, 2010 12:40 PM (in response to phil_m)
      Re: M13 in a parallel effects set up: How do you set it up?

      Yes.  I am aware that I would need a line mixer to do this.  To clarify, I was always under the impression that in order to run your effects in parallel each effect unit had to have its own channel in the line mixer (modulation in channel 1, delay in channel 2, reverb in channel 3, and so on).  I wanted to put a delay pedal, like the eventide time factor, in the fx loop of the m13 so I could have reverb from the m13 come after the time factor.  Because the time factor would be in the loop of the m13, it would be running through the m13 and would not be an independant pedal in the fx chain.  Would it be best to run all of the effects through only one channel in the line mixer, or is there a way to run the time factor through the line mixer before or after the fx loop of the m13.

       

      I hope that this was a little bit more clear of an explanation.

       

      --Ronald W. Kauffman--

      • phil_m Expert Line 6 User
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        Oct 17, 2010 1:00 PM (in response to ronaldkauffman)
        Re: M13 in a parallel effects set up: How do you set it up?

        Well, because of the M13's loop you can treat the M13 like two separate effects processors.  The effects that come before the loop are one, and the ones that come after are another.  Let's see, for the sake of argument, you had the loop setup as "Post FX2".  This way you have two effects in each path.  So here's I envision your wiring setup between the M13 and the mixer:

         

        Ch. 1 send --> M13 in --> M13 FX send --> Ch. 1 return

         

        Ch. 2 send --> --> Timefactor --> M13 FX return --> M13 out --> Ch. 2 return

         

        That way, you could put your reverb in FX module 3 or 4 on the M13, and still have it after the Timefactor.  Of course, you'll have to make sure the mix on all the effects on the M13 are at 100% wet, and not all effects have this option.  Also, the M13 operates at instrument level, and channels on mixers typically operate at line level.  So I don't how successful it will be.

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      Oct 17, 2010 12:53 PM (in response to phil_m)
      Re: M13 in a parallel effects set up: How do you set it up?

      By the way, how do you  set up a wet/dry setup with multiple amps and the M13's loop?  May be that would be the way to go.

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