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Help me list the legendary guitar tones

This thread is to be used as a master list of legendary guitar tones that people can build off of.  Help me out by pointing out missing artists and making tones for the ones that are missing good tones.


The tone links are only posted if they have 3 stars rating or better.  The legend is device-rating.  hd5-5 means it's an HD500 patch rated at 5 stars hd4-3 means HD400, 3 stars, etc..  Currently I'm only posting Pod HD links.


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        60's/50's Rock

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Beatles                  - George Harrison, John Lennon    hd5-4 hd4-4

Cliff Gallup

Cream                    - Eric Clapton     hd3-4 hd4-4 hd4-3 hd5-5 hd5-3 hd5-3

Doors                    - Robby Krieger

Duane Eddy

Fleetwood Mac            - Peter Green

Free                     - Paul Kossoff

Hank Marvin

Jefferson Airplane       - Jorma Kaukonen, Paul Kantner

Jimi Hendrix

Jimmy Bryant

Les Paul

Link Wray

Rolling Stones           - Keith Richards

The Kinks                - Dave, Ray Davies

The Mamas and the Papas

The Monkeys

The Moody Blues          - Justin Hayward

The Who                  - Pete Townsend

Ventures

 


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           70's Rock

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AC/DC                    - Angus, Malcolm Young

Aerosmith                - Joe Perry

Allman Bros.             - Duane Allman, Dickey Betts, Dan Toler, Warren   Haynes, Derek Trucks

Bachman Turner Overdrive - Randy Bachman

Black Sabbath            - Tony Iommi

Blue Cheer

Boston                   - Tom Scholz

Chicago

David Grissom

Deep Purple              - Ritchie Blackmore

Dire Straits             - Mark Knopfler

Doobie Bros.             - Jeff 'Skunk' Baxter

Guess Who                - Randy Bachman

Jefferson Starship       - Craig Chaquico

Kansas                   - Kerry Livgren

Kiss                     - Ace Frehley

Led Zepplin              - Jimmy Page

Lynrd Skynrd

Mahogany Rush            - Frank Marino

Mountain                 - Lesley West

Phish                    - Trey Anastasion

Pink Floyd               - David Gilmour

Queen                    - Brian May

Robin Trower

Rush

Santana                  - Carlos Santana

Sex Pistols              - Steve Jones

Status Quo               - Francis Rossi, Rick Parfitt

Steely Dan               - Jon Herington

Steve Miller Band        - Les Dudek

Ted Nugent

The Eagles

The Police               - Andy Summers

The Ramones              - Johnny Ramone

Thin Lizzy               - Gary Moore

Tom Petty

Wishbone Ash             - Laurie Wisefield (also Home)

Yes                      - Steve Howe

ZZ Top                   - Billy Gibbons


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         Blues, Rockabilly, Jazz, Country, Raggae, Funk

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Albert King

B.B. King

Buddy Guy

Gary Moore

John Mayall's Bluesbreakers - Eric Clapton

Jeff Beck

Joe Bonamassa

John Mayer

Larry Carlton

Matt Schofield

Robben Ford

Robert Cray

Stevie Ray Vaughn

T-Bone Walker

Warren Haynes


Brian Setzer

Grady Martin

The Reverend Horton Heat - Jim Heath

Paul Burlison


Charlie Hunter

Frank Zappa

Grant Green

Guthrie Govan

Joe Pass

John McLaughlin

John Scofield

Julian Lage

Kenny Burrell

Marc Ribot

Soulive - Eric Krasno

Wes Montgomery


Brad Paisly

Chet Atkins

Don Rich

Luther Perkins

Pete Anderson

Roy Nichols


Bob Marley


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        80's Rock

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Black Flag             - Greg Ginn

Bon Jovi               - Richie Sambora

Bryan Adams

Dead Kennedys          - East Bay Ray

Foreigner              - Mick Jones

John Sykes             - Thin Lizzy, Whitesnake, Solo

Journey                - Neal Schon

Kenny Loggins

Night Ranger           - Brad Gillis

Pat Benatar

Peter Schilling

Prince

The Cars

The Descendents        - Stephen Egerton (also All)

The Pretenders         - James Honeyman Scott

The Smiths             - Johnny Marr

Toto                   - Steve Lukather

Triumph                - Rik Emmett


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       80's Metal / Hair Metal, 80's Thrash Metal

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Badlands                - Jake E. Lee

Def Leppard             - Steve Clark, Phil Collen

Dokken                  - George Lynch

Doug Aldrich            - Lion, Dio, Bad Moon Rising, Whitesnake

Extreme                 - Nuno Bettencourt

Guns N Roses            - Slash

Helloween               - Kai Hansen

Iron Maiden

Judas Priest            - K.K. Downing, Glenn Tipton

Motley Crue

Ozzy Osbourne           - Randy Rhodes, Zakk Wylde, Jake E. Lee, Brad Gillis

Poison                  - CC Deville

Ratt

Ronnie James Dio        - Vivian Campbell

Sabaton                 - Rikard Sundén, Oskar Montelius

Scorpions               - Rudolf Schenker &  Matthias Jabs

UFO                     - Michael Schenker

Van Halen               - Eddie Van Halen

Winger



Megadeth                - Dave Mustaine, Marty Friedman, Chris Broderick

Metallica               - James Hetfield

Overkill                - Bobby Gustafson

Pantera                 - Dimebag Darrell

Sepultura

Slayer                  - Kerry King, Jeff Hanneman


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      Alternative, Hard Rock, Alt Metal

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Foo Fighters            - Dave Grohl, Pat Smear

Fuel                    - Carl Bell

Husker Du               - Bob Mould

Nirvana                 - Kurt Cobain

Pearl Jam               - Stone Gossard, Mike McCready

Red Hot Chili Peppers   - Dave Navarro, John Frusciante

Stone Temple Pilots     - Dean DeLeo

The Offspring           - Dexter Holland, Noodles

Tool                    - Adam Jones


Lynch Mob               - George Lynch


Atreyu

Deftones                - Stephen Carpenter

Disturbed

Korn

Mudvayne

Ramstein


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      Metalcore

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As I lay dying           - Nick Hipa, Phil Sgrosso

August Burns Red

Chimaira

In Flames

Killswitch               - Adam Dutkiewicz, Joel Stroetzel

Lamb of God              - Mark Morton, Willie Addler

Machine Head             - Rob Flynn

Scar Symmetry

Shadows Fall

Soilwork

Unearth


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     Progressive Rock/Metal

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Dixie Dregs               - Steve Morse

Dream Theater             - John Petrucci         hd5-4 hd5-3 hd5-3 hd4-5 hd4-5

Evergrey

King Crimson              - Robert Fripp, Adrian Belew

King's X                  - Ty Tabor

Nevermore                 - Chris Broderick

Pain of Salvation

Planet X                  - Tony McAlpine

Porcupine Tree

Threshold

Umprhrey's McGee          - Jake Cinninger


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  Progcore, Death Metal, Melodic Death Metal, Progressive Death Metal, Doom Metal

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Between the Buried and Me - Paul Waggoner, Dustie Waring

Periphery                 - Misha Mansoor, Alex Bois, Jake Bowen

Protest the Hero          - Luke Hoskin, Tim Millar

The Human Abstract        - Dean Herrera, A.J. Minette


Cannibal Corpse


DethKlok

Hypocrisy


Extol                     - Ole Borud, Christer Espevoll

Mastadon

Meshuggah                 - Fredrich Thordendal

Opeth                     - Mikael Akerfeldt


Paradise lost


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          Shred (Instrumental Rock Guitar)

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Allan Holdsworth

Andy Timmons

Buckethead

Eric Johnson

Joe Satriani            hd5-4 hd5-4 hd5-4 hd4-5

Michael Angelo Batio

Paul Gilbert

Steve Vai               hd4-5 hd5-4 hd5-3 hd5-3 hd5-3 hd5-3 hd5-3 hd5-3

Yngwie Malmsteen


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  • Crusty_Old_Rocker Expert Line 6 User
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    Apr 1, 2011 11:41 PM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

    Link Wray's "Rumble".  It's a must have.

     

    Cheers,

     

    Crusty

  • Nick_Mattocks Best of the Best
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    Apr 2, 2011 12:31 AM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

    Don't forget John Mayall's Bluesbreakers era Eric Clapton and Peter Green and Peter Green in Fleetwood Mac.

     

    Similarly Gary Moore - Thin Lizzy/Blues/Metal eras

     

    Paul Kossoff

     

    Laurie Wisefield (Home/Wishbone Ash)

  • Octo777 Iknowathingortwo
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    Apr 2, 2011 2:22 AM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

    meambobbo wrote:

     

    Death Metal

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    Opeth

    Meshuggah

    Hypocrisy

    Mastadon

    Paradise lost

     

     

     

     

    Interesting definition of "Death Metal"..........

     

    For the Metal Core you should have Chimaira and Machine Head in there for sure.

  • brue58ski Just Startin'
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    Apr 2, 2011 4:29 AM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

    What a great idea.  I've been on these forums since the XT came out.  It used to be mostly how to get great tones and over the years has seemed to have devolved into "here's what's wrong".  I don't even own one (yet) but it's nice to see a discusion started about how to use it instead of what's wrong with it.

  • jdalf59 Just Startin'
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    Apr 2, 2011 4:48 AM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

    Well, hows about Robin Trower, Robben Ford, Larry Carlton, Jeff Beck, David Grissom, Andy Timmons,Joe Bonamassa, Brad Paisley, John Mayer, Matt Schofield

  • johnnyayyy Iknowathingortwo
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    Apr 2, 2011 9:58 PM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

    Grady Martin

    Luther Perkins

    Paul Burlison

    Cliff Gallup

    Don Rich

    Brian Setzer

    Ivy Rorschach

    Ventures

    Hank Marvin

    Johnny Ramone

    Steve Jones

    Blue Cheer

    Roy Nichols

  • johnnyayyy Iknowathingortwo
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    Apr 2, 2011 10:05 PM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

    Oooh, Greg Ginn! And East Bay Ray! And Stephen Egerton! And Jim Heath!

  • cabir Just Startin'
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    Apr 3, 2011 1:04 AM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

    guthrie

  • OliverCaspers Just Startin'
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    Apr 3, 2011 7:21 AM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

    I would add

     

    Luke (Toto)

    George Lynch (Lynch Mob)

    Doug Aldrich (Whitesnake)

  • gtrman100 Iknowathingortwo
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    Apr 3, 2011 11:36 AM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

    Even though it's fun to speculate, this thread is like listing the most beautiful women in the world- there are too many to list, and everyone has their own favorites. Of course, my wife is my favorite, right Sweetie?!

  • johnnyayyy Iknowathingortwo
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    Apr 3, 2011 8:02 PM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

    Kurt Cobain

     

    Duane Eddy

     

    Jimmy Bryant

     

    Les Paul

     

    James Honeyman Scott

     

    Chet Atkins

     

    By the end of this thread we will have named every guitarist who ever lived.

     

    Pete Anderson

     

    Johnny Marr

     

    Dave Navarro

     

    John Frusciante

    • stumpsout Just Startin'
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      Apr 4, 2011 7:20 PM (in response to johnnyayyy)
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      Looking forward to this!!

       

      ...it might be shorter and easier to list the guitarists NOT with legendary tones LOL

      • meambobbo Iknowathingortwo
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        Apr 4, 2011 7:43 PM (in response to stumpsout)
        Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

        i had no doubt it would grow so huge, but i'd like to reiterate that we can all get some good information from this - everyone is going to only want a small subset of the total, and it helps to branch off to see some overlooked tones.

         

        I think as the second phase of this plan, we should post all the customtone links for each guitarist that are rated 3 stars or above.  I also need to drop it in Excel and alphabetize it.

         

        I'm struggling to keep up with keeping this thing up to date, but I'll do what I can.  It'd be easier if everyone told me where to file a guitarist...I don't know who the h you guys are talking about so I gotta wikipedia everyone, which is cool and all but...

        • johnnyayyy Iknowathingortwo
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          Apr 4, 2011 8:10 PM (in response to meambobbo)
          Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

          meambobbo wrote:

          It'd be easier if everyone told me where to file a guitarist...I don't know who the h you guys are talking about so I gotta wikipedia everyone, which is cool and all but...

          I think Craig Chaquico should be under 70's/80's rock, not 50's/60's - I believe he was in Jefferson Starship and later Starship but not Jeffereson Airplane. Jefferson Airplane guitarists were Kantner and Kaukonen?

           

          And while we are stuck in 60's rock mode - I hesitate to mention him as I am the opposite of a fan, but... many people would say Jerry Garcia had "legendary tone"...

      • johnnyayyy Iknowathingortwo
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        Apr 4, 2011 7:59 PM (in response to stumpsout)
        Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

        stumpsout wrote:

         

        Looking forward to this!!

         

        ...it might be shorter and easier to list the guitarists NOT with legendary tones LOL

         

        That said... Bob Mould! Saw Husker Du once and that guy had an amazing tone live. HUGE!

         

        And how could I have forgotten... THE NUGE!!!

  • jasonbogen Just Startin'
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    Apr 4, 2011 5:36 AM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

    Ty Tabor - King's X from the Gretchen Goes To Nebraska album.

     

    THAT's legendary tone.

  • Hummelong Just Startin'
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    Apr 4, 2011 8:30 AM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

    Of course I love most of the favourites already listed...but I'd like to add

     

    Jon Herington

     

    Steely Dan's go-to guy and his beautiful Guytone amplifier tones.

  • chimp_spanner Just Startin'
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    Apr 4, 2011 11:04 AM (in response to meambobbo)
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    Wouldn't mind hearing your Periphery dude

    • meambobbo Iknowathingortwo
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      Apr 4, 2011 11:22 PM (in response to chimp_spanner)
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      Try these two out for Periphery.  let me know which you think is closer - i go back and forth.  just rhythm tones, not lead.

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        Apr 5, 2011 3:58 AM (in response to meambobbo)
        Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

        Thanks man. I'll try em now. I saw a few posts back you were asking what to file certain things under. Would it be worth putting Periphery under Djent? It's *almost* a legit genre now

        • Octo777 Iknowathingortwo
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          Apr 5, 2011 6:58 AM (in response to chimp_spanner)
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          I will stab myself in the ears with a rusty screwdriver if "Djent" every get's recognised as a metal genre beyond the people who currently seem to think it's a good idea........

          • Xsample33 Just Startin'
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            Apr 5, 2011 7:05 AM (in response to Octo777)
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            WOW

             

            I hate most metal music, but I respect those who do as I want to be respected for loving the music I do.

             

            But one thing I always concluded when noticing some people being so closed up to other genres:

             

            One that does not want the Music as a whole to keep on evolving and growing cannot consider himself a musician... PERIOD!

          • chimp_spanner Just Startin'
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            Apr 5, 2011 7:55 AM (in response to Octo777)
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            All signs point to that it already is man! It's a bit of a silly word, but it doesn't bug me and it shouldn't bug anyone else. Even I get classed as it, but purely because sometimes I use "weird" signatures (which is also sillly because ultimately it's all just 4/4) and 8 string guitars (even sillier because I use it on like 2 out of 13 songs). TBH it's kind of turning into a more all encompassing term for people who just like prog metal but for whatever reason won't say they're prog fans. Bizarre.

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              Apr 5, 2011 10:17 AM (in response to chimp_spanner)
              Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

              Some great tones that I would like to try to make  happen when I get more time:

               

              John Scofield, Charlie Hunter, Jake Cinninger (Umprhrey's McGee), Eric Krasno (Soulive), ahh **** the list goes on and on and on.

               

              We should stop talking about playing guitar and actually play more. 

            • Octo777 Iknowathingortwo
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              Apr 5, 2011 11:10 AM (in response to chimp_spanner)
              Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

              Xsample33 wrote:

               

              WOW

               

              I hate most metal music, but I respect those who do as I want to be respected for loving the music I do.

               

              But one thing I always concluded when noticing some people being so closed up to other genres:

               

              One that does not want the Music as a whole to keep on evolving and growing cannot consider himself a musician... PERIOD!

               

              Way to take what I said completely out of context...

               

               

              chimp_spanner wrote:

               

              All signs point to that it already is man! It's a bit of a silly word, but it doesn't bug me and it shouldn't bug anyone else. Even I get classed as it, but purely because sometimes I use "weird" signatures (which is also sillly because ultimately it's all just 4/4) and 8 string guitars (even sillier because I use it on like 2 out of 13 songs). TBH it's kind of turning into a more all encompassing term for people who just like prog metal but for whatever reason won't say they're prog fans. Bizarre.

               

              I understand the basic onomatopoeia, but to try and name a whole genre (that is basically just metal) off it, is pretty stupid in my opinion.

               

              I think all Djent actually does, is give rise to terrible generic guitar tones.

               

              Its a trend. A fashion, something that metal is supposed to be a catharsis for to a certain extent.

               

              Of course djent enthusiasts will claim their tones rule, but only because they probably only listen to stuff that are trying to emulate in their bedroom.


              What they don't realise is that what sounds "ok" in their bedroom doesn't transfer live or to pro recording and that no amount of downtuning can compensate for that.

               

              I like the word, it's very descriptive.  What I don't like is the way it's been adopted to basically be associated with terrible overly processed generic guitar tones.

               

              That said, I'm not a fan of many of the sub genres given to metal. Metal should just be metal at the end of the day.

               

              No offence to you chimp, but I would personally be offended if someone said the metal stuff I do could be classed as Djent. lol

              • meambobbo Iknowathingortwo
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                Apr 5, 2011 12:11 PM (in response to Octo777)
                Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

                first post updated and organized a little better.  for all the rock stuff, they are listed by band name, with the guitarists tagged on.  Instrumental rock goes in progressive rock, except when the emphasis is on the guitar, then it goes to shred.

                 

                I think my breakdowns for the metal categories are good - you don't want your subgenres too small.  80's hair metal, 80's thrash, progressive, alt/nu metal, death metal, metalcore, and progcore mostly do have distinct guitar tones, which is really what I'm focusing on more than distinct styles of music.

                 

                I've never heard of djent as a genre.

                • Octo777 Iknowathingortwo
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                  Apr 5, 2011 12:35 PM (in response to meambobbo)
                  Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

                  meambobbo wrote:

                   

                   

                  I think my breakdowns for the metal categories are good - you don't want your subgenres too small.  80's hair metal, 80's thrash, progressive, alt/nu metal, death metal, metalcore, and progcore mostly do have distinct guitar tones, which is really what I'm focusing on more than distinct styles of music.

                   

                   

                   

                  Only 3 bands out of the 7 in your Death Metal catergory are actually Death Metal though.

                   

                  Mastadon and Meshuggah and Opeth would be much better suited to prog metal in my opinion.

                   

                  Paradise Lost have a more of a Goth Rock thing going in than being metal at all really.

                  • johnnyayyy Iknowathingortwo
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                    Apr 5, 2011 12:52 PM (in response to Octo777)
                    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

                    Octo777 wrote:


                     

                    Mastadon and Meshuggah and Opeth would be much better suited to prog metal in my opinion.

                     

                    Actually, I believe Meshuggah falls more into the category of... "Djent"...

                     

                    Man, I am glad I didn't know Mastodon was "prog metal" before I heard them - I would have never given them a chance... the term "prog metal" or "prog" anything sounds really gross and has negative connotations for me, which makes it easy for me to understand your hatred of the "D" word

                    • Octo777 Iknowathingortwo
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                      Apr 5, 2011 12:57 PM (in response to johnnyayyy)
                      Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

                      johnnyayyy wrote:

                       

                      Octo777 wrote:


                       

                       

                      Mastadon and Meshuggah and Opeth would be much better suited to prog metal in my opinion.

                       

                       

                      Actually, I believe Meshuggah falls more into the category of... "Djent"...

                       

                      Man, I am glad I didn't know Mastodon was "prog metal" before I heard them - I would have never given them a chance... the term "prog metal" or "prog" anything sounds really gross and has negative connotations for me, which makes it easy for me to understand your hatred of the "D" word

                      Haha, but Meshuggah have been around for longer than the term Djent so they can't really be defined by it. hehe

                       

                      I've heard people raving about Mastadon and I've given them a listen but they do nothing for me.

                       

                      Opeth on the other hand. Wow. I really don't get how anyone could class them as Death metal! Opeth play some pretty heavy metal for sure, but it's also offset with some of the most epic and beautiful clean and acoustic stuff.

                       

                      For the record, Death Metal does nothing for me.

                       

                      OH! and Devin Townsend needs to be somewhere on that list. Somewhere in the metal but his music is so varied it's hard to pin him down.

                      • meambobbo Iknowathingortwo
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                        Apr 5, 2011 1:33 PM (in response to Octo777)
                        Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

                        Let me explain my "death metal" logic.  It's more of a category for bands that don't neatly fit into the other genres.

                         

                        Meshuaggah should really be their own genre.  It's like progressive thrash death metal, but it only incorporates limited progressive elements (mostly in timing), and 80's thrash vocals are generally clean (focus on pitch over growl).  Moreover, Meshuggah plays mostly atonally, making labeling them even more difficult.

                         

                        Opeth I feel belongs in a death metal category, but of course its progressive elements make it stand out from most death metal bands.  It's best labeled progressive death metal IMO, but I don't want to add a category for one band (even though I did for Lynch Mob, because I'm not sure where to put them).

                         

                        I use the death metal label to refer to bands that use mostly growling vocals, but take greater derivation from 80's power metal than American blues rock or thrash (which I call metalcore - metalcore also focuses on rhythmic breakdowns or similar beats).  They generally sound more neoclassical than bluesy and their themes are often melancholy and focus on impending doom.  So I see it very similar to doom metal.

                         

                        If anyone has a better classification system, I'm willing to adopt.  I just think we should try to keep this list simple rather than technically accurate.

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                          Apr 5, 2011 1:52 PM (in response to meambobbo)
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                          Try categorizing King's X.  That is a band that almost needs its own genre.  Sabbath like riffs, Beatles like harmonies, progressive, soul and funk elements.  They have influenced entire genres of music yet sound like nobody else.

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                            Apr 6, 2011 9:39 AM (in response to jasonbogen)
                            Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

                            jasonbogen wrote:

                             

                            Try categorizing King's X.  That is a band that almost needs its own genre.  Sabbath like riffs, Beatles like harmonies, progressive, soul and funk elements.  They have influenced entire genres of music yet sound like nobody else.

                            Just a quick detour from this thread (excellent thread, btw), to take the opportunity to do a big ol' +1,000,000 to any good King's X kharma.  I've loved those guys since about 1989 (I lived in Houston at the time, their adopted hometown) and saw them live 2 or 3 times.  Magical, special band.  I could listen to Doug's vocals over all that crazy Tabor guitar major key stuff for hours and hours on end. 

                             

                            Cheers,

                             

                            Fester2k

                        • Octo777 Iknowathingortwo
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                          Apr 5, 2011 1:55 PM (in response to meambobbo)
                          Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

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                          Let me explain my "death metal" logic.  It's more of a category for bands that don't neatly fit into the other genres.

                           

                          Meshuaggah should really be their own genre.  It's like progressive thrash death metal, but it only incorporates limited progressive elements (mostly in timing), and 80's thrash vocals are generally clean (focus on pitch over growl).  Moreover, Meshuggah plays mostly atonally, making labeling them even more difficult.

                           

                          Opeth I feel belongs in a death metal category, but of course its progressive elements make it stand out from most death metal bands.  It's best labeled progressive death metal IMO, but I don't want to add a category for one band (even though I did for Lynch Mob, because I'm not sure where to put them).

                           

                          I use the death metal label to refer to bands that use mostly growling vocals, but take greater derivation from 80's power metal than American blues rock or thrash (which I call metalcore - metalcore also focuses on rhythmic breakdowns or similar beats).  They generally sound more neoclassical than bluesy and their themes are often melancholy and focus on impending doom.  So I see it very similar to doom metal.

                           

                          If anyone has a better classification system, I'm willing to adopt.  I just think we should try to keep this list simple rather than technically accurate.

                           

                          If it doesn't fit neatly into any one genre, then why not just call it metal?.....

                           

                          Growling vocals are not exclusive to Death Metal. I can think of a bunch of bands that use growling/screaming vocals and are not death metal. Some are even on your list already.....In Flames, Chimaira, Killswitch Engage, Unearth.....some of my favourite bands, but like I said, I can't stand Death Metal.

                           

                          That aside. Opeth have a significantly more progressive elements to their music than they do death metal elements. Like I said before, I don't understand how anyone who listens to Opeth could class them as being death metal in the slightest.

                           

                          Blast Beats while not being entirely confined to just death metal, still define the genre because it's this kind of ornamentation that real Death Metal bands use. A lot..

                           

                          If it's heavy but doesn't have blast beats maybe but shares either vocal stylings or particularly gloomy subject content, to me, then thats black metal.

                           

                           

                           

                          Keep Opeth in the Death Metal slot if you want, it's your list but I personally think it's misinformed and doesn't do Opeth justice.

                          • meambobbo Iknowathingortwo
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                            Apr 5, 2011 2:31 PM (in response to Octo777)
                            Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

                            Well, it'd be confusing to have a metal genre, then 80's metal, 80's thrash, etc.  Maybe I'll just have a Metal Fusion category to encompass the ones that don't fit neatly.

                             

                            I don't like pure death metal either, really - my blast beat appreciation is quite limited.  I couldn't tell you much about Cannibal Corpse or Napalm Death.  I'm not much of a Mastadon fan either.

                             

                            The weird thing about Soilwork and In Flames is that they were doing their thing before "metalcore" was even a term.  I think they're widely known (at least previously) as melodic death metal, which I think is off-putting because it sounds like a subset of death metal.  Perhaps their older sound was more similar to death metal - blast beats and no clean singing but they've moved away from that.

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                      Apr 5, 2011 1:48 PM (in response to johnnyayyy)
                      Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

                      That's funny, I grew up a prog rock fan of old Genesis, Rush, Marillion, etc.  The term djent is irritating to me.  I don't know why.  At least prog is just short for progressive.  Djent just looks like a word that someone came up with to irritate me.  LOL!  I'll get over it. ;-)

              • chimp_spanner Just Startin'
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                Apr 5, 2011 4:26 PM (in response to Octo777)
                Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

                Given it's onomatopaeic (I hate that word) roots, it's kind of strange that very few bands actually do any 'Djent' in their music at all. As I said in another thread, beginning of 'Soul Burn' is Djent. Most Djent...really isn't! So I agree it's silly, but it's harmless.

                 

                The downside is that it has spawned a lot of Meshuggah clones. But it also means that those that are inclined to, have to try harder to stand out and put a new twist on it, and then it really crosses back over into straight up progressive rock/metal.

                 

                I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you've probably not rushed out to see any "Djent" gigs but having seen Periphery, TesseracT and Monuments live I don't think anyone would say that their tone or style doesn't translate well to a live setting.

                 

                And their tones are way more processed than mine (Axe FX and what not). All I ever used in the bedr....erm, studio...was Big Bottom with no post processing. And live, I've had nothing but a JVM410 (and for a few gigs EVH5150, Framus Cobra and a Triple X...borrowing backline is fun!). Long as the notes are the same, who cares haha. Bass down, mids up, rest is in the hands. As they say!

                • Octo777 Iknowathingortwo
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                  Apr 5, 2011 4:59 PM (in response to chimp_spanner)
                  Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

                  chimp_spanner wrote:

                   

                  Given it's onomatopaeic (I hate that word) roots, it's kind of strange that very few bands actually do any 'Djent' in their music at all. As I said in another thread, beginning of 'Soul Burn' is Djent. Most Djent...really isn't! So I agree it's silly, but it's harmless.

                   

                  The downside is that it has spawned a lot of Meshuggah clones. But it also means that those that are inclined to, have to try harder to stand out and put a new twist on it, and then it really crosses back over into straight up progressive rock/metal.

                   

                  I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you've probably not rushed out to see any "Djent" gigs but having seen Periphery, TesseracT and Monuments live I don't think anyone would say that their tone or style doesn't translate well to a live setting.

                   

                  And their tones are way more processed than mine (Axe FX and what not). All I ever used in the bedr....erm, studio...was Big Bottom with no post processing. And live, I've had nothing but a JVM410 (and for a few gigs EVH5150, Framus Cobra and a Triple X...borrowing backline is fun!). Long as the notes are the same, who cares haha. Bass down, mids up, rest is in the hands. As they say!

                   

                  I'm not really a big Meshuggah fan but I don't mind listening to them. I've checked out a bunch of the bands that folks are calling Djent and they all sound the same because like I said, it's given rise to such a generic guitar tone.

                   

                  I prefer bands who keep things interesting more than just rhythmically (which is all the djent bands seem to have going for them). I love SikTh (rip) and Textures who I don't doubt are partially responsible along with Meshuggah for the thing that people now call Djent. I've been keeping an eye on Aliases (band featuring Pin from SikTh) and have seen people referring to them as Djent but I am hoping it doesn't stick for them.

                   

                  Djent is not for me. I will stick to Strapping Young Lad/Devin Townsend, Chimaira, KsE and the like for my metal jollies.

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                    Apr 5, 2011 5:07 PM (in response to Octo777)
                    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

                    Big SYL fan. Chimaira also, although they haven't done anything to top Impossibility of Reason. Not for me anyway.  Not yet. Watched that 5 hour long studio/documentary DVD of theirs the other night though. Was really cool to see how they work. I got major studio envy.

                     

                    Aliases are definitely not Djent. They're more Tech I guess. Or widdly as I like to call it. Widdly widdly widdly. They're amazing live though. I played with them in Germany last year, and it pretty much sucked for everyone who had to play after them - they sort of set the standard. I start a tour with them in like two weeks. Should be pretty immense!

                    • meambobbo Iknowathingortwo
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                      Apr 5, 2011 5:16 PM (in response to chimp_spanner)
                      Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

                      good observation on the total lack of djent in most music.  although it consumes a fair bit of metalcore breakdowns.  and justice for all is probably another example, the song, not the album.

                       

                      but it's funny how much we all want an awesome djent tone.  i've since learned to also make sure I have a good unmuted note tone, particularly in chords.

                       

                      I find the best way to get djent from the pod hd is to set a parametric eq, freq 85, gain 60-75 FWIW. \m/

                    • Octo777 Iknowathingortwo
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                      Apr 5, 2011 5:15 PM (in response to chimp_spanner)
                      Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

                      chimp_spanner wrote:

                       

                      Big SYL fan. Chimaira also, although they haven't done anything to top Impossibility of Reason. Not for me anyway.  Not yet. Watched that 5 hour long studio/documentary DVD of theirs the other night though. Was really cool to see how they work. I got major studio envy.

                       

                      Aliases are definitely not Djent. They're more Tech I guess. Or widdly as I like to call it. Widdly widdly widdly. They're amazing live though. I played with them in Germany last year, and it pretty much sucked for everyone who had to play after them - they sort of set the standard. I start a tour with them in like two weeks. Should be pretty immense!

                       

                      I am a stupid big Chimaira fan. I'm actually in the Coming Alive DVD, very briefly when I was hanging out with Mark and Rob after a show in London. I actually flew to Cleveland (I Iive in Scotland) a couple of years ago for Chimaira Christmas 9 and then went and hung out at the practice space with some of the guys after. Such an awesome experience.

                       

                      Sadly, it was announced that Spicuzza their keyboard/samples guy has left the band......pretty gutted but they have a new album currently being mixed and I can't wait to see them again!

                       

                      Only thing I'm not sure about Aliases is their singer, but they only have a couple of full tracks out so I will wait see how their album turns out before I make any decisions on them fully. I like We Never Should Have Met though.

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    Apr 4, 2011 8:25 PM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

    80 Thrash - Overkill, Bobby Gustafson tone on "The Years of Decay" album.

  • johnnyayyy Iknowathingortwo
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    Apr 5, 2011 12:24 PM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

    Some of the people on that list (including some of the ones I listed) I would say had tones that were were more "infamous" than "legendary"

     

    Cool to see Pat Smear on the list, even if it's only for the Foo Fighters... whoa, I forgot, he was also in Nirvana for a short while...

  • tim1953 Just Startin'
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    Apr 5, 2011 4:21 PM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

    Justin Hayward of The Moody Blues had a really cool Gibson 345 into a Vox AC 30 sound.

    He used some kind of distortion pedal that I'd like to know what it was.

  • maxguitarrista Just Startin'
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    Apr 5, 2011 4:28 PM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

    pretty cool topic man , when are you going to post the tones ?

  • cGil Just Startin'
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    Apr 5, 2011 5:26 PM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

    Surprised no one's mentioned Randy Bachman - Guess Who & Bachman Turner Overdrive.    Tech 21 thought enough of Randy's tone to design the American Woman pedal based on it!

     

    Gil...

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    Apr 13, 2011 10:04 AM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

    Frank Zappa

    Robert Fripp   ( King Crimson )

    Steve Howe   ( yes )

    Lesley West  ( Mountain )

  • brue58ski Just Startin'
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    Apr 14, 2011 4:16 AM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

    One tone I've always loved is not only artist specific but album specific.  That would be Frank Marino & Mahogany Rush Live (his first one, black cover and single disc)

    • aeugle Just Startin'
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      Apr 14, 2011 4:38 AM (in response to brue58ski)
      Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

      meambobo.

       

      do you plan to link the corresponding tones?

      I do not see any progress in this.

       

      Best regards

      Thomas

      • meambobbo Iknowathingortwo
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        Apr 14, 2011 8:07 AM (in response to aeugle)
        Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

        hey Thomas,

         

        I started linking them, and it was pretty time consuming.  I was trying to see last night if I could just post a direct link to the customtone search results for the artist for the particular pod hd device you use, but you cannot.

         

        The other problem is that updating the links is going to be a pain, like if one artist gets more tones uploaded, or if the ratings change.  To be honest, I think it'll be quicker for people to simply go to customtone, search for the artist, and sort the results by rating.

         

        Sorry.

         

        ...of course if people want to write up the links for a particular artist as a post to this thread, I should be able to copy paste it.  I'd be happy to do that.  But I can't customtone search all these artists then arrange links - it's simply too time-consuming.

  • Octo777 Iknowathingortwo
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    Apr 30, 2011 8:53 AM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

    I notice there is no Chimp Spanner mentioned in any of the metal sections yet?

     

    Maybe it's about time after his mention in a Djent Feature in the May 2011 edition of Total Guitar!

     

    http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss218/Octothorpe777/ChimpSpanner.jpg

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      Apr 30, 2011 11:03 AM (in response to Octo777)
      Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

      Ahh yeah I only found out about this the other day!! Cheers for the mention dude. Had a nice mention in Metal Hammer month before last as well - they had a section on how to get the archetypal 'djent' tone there too. Although they recommended people find an amp with a "big bottom" setting. *facepalm*. Why don't they come to folk like us BEFORE they go to print?

  • mr_slugworth Just Startin'
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    Apr 30, 2011 2:04 PM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

    Nobody has mentioned Slash yet?  Wow.

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    Apr 30, 2011 6:16 PM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

    Steve Morse   -   The Dixie Dregs

  • talwilkins Just Startin'
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    May 10, 2011 3:50 AM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

    The only name I'm really missing is Frank Zappa.

    He really had phenomonal tones. In fact he was doing with real amps what we now do with these moddellers.

    Using different amps for different sounds, or even using different amps at the same time. He had a custom made switchboard to switch between amps.

    Most people don't really dig his music but I really think they must agree that his tones were off the planet.

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    May 10, 2011 6:41 PM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

    oh yeah..  Rik Emmett - Triumph

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    May 11, 2011 5:32 PM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

    Guys! We are forgetting some guitarists! God... =P

    Thomas Youngblood - Kamelot

    Shawn Lane - (He's a mad good jazz/fusion guitar God)

    Jeff Loomis - Nevermore

    John 5

    Michael Romeo - Symphony X

    Hey when can we start posting tones next to the names on the list there Meambobbo? Or are we already doing that? I havent been following this much so IDK =D

    • meambobbo Iknowathingortwo
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      May 11, 2011 6:09 PM (in response to beteasta351)
      Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

      hey there - i mentioned a little ways back that to try to post customtone links to even half of these guitarists would be far too time consuming, but if others posted the customtone links like I did, I would be happy to copy/paste them into the original thread.  It takes long enough to update just the guitarists!

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    Apr 4, 2012 12:50 PM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

    Judas Priest (Painkiller '90) K.K. Downing & Glenn Tipton 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM__lPTWThU

     

    http://line6.com/customtone/tone/216102/

    http://line6.com/customtone/tone/208400/

     

     

     

    Helloween Kai Hansen

     

     

    Sabaton Rikard Sundén & Oskar Montelius — lead/rhythm guitar, backing vocals (1999-2012)

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    Apr 4, 2012 1:46 PM (in response to meambobbo)
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    Adam Jones - Tool

  • solidjiver Just Startin'
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    Apr 4, 2012 11:45 PM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

    You might want to expand the blues section a little: T-Bone Walker, Buddy Guy, Albert King, Robert Cray, Warren Haynes are some names that seem to be missing. Maybe also Duke Robillard.

     

    Jazz: I'd add Wes Montgomery, Grant Green, Joe Pass and Kenny Burrell. And maybe Marc Ribot.

     

    I hope some of these names are not already suggested, I haven't read alle the messages here.

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    Apr 5, 2012 12:30 AM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

    Michael Schenker

    Brian May

    Tom Scholz

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    Apr 5, 2012 2:57 AM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

    Dio                                   Vivian Campbell

    Gary Moore                   

    Def Leppard                    Steve Clark, Phil Collen

    Michael Angelo Batio          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ool5_5avLGA&feature=channel

    Scorpions                         Rudolf Schenker &  Matthias Jabs

    The Offspring                    Dexter Holland  & Noodles

  • meambobbo Iknowathingortwo
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    Apr 5, 2012 9:20 AM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Help me list the legendary guitar tones

    holy crap i just realized this thread is over a year old...

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