Jessie,

Welcome to the group!

For me, I use my X3 Live direct into the board at church.  I use the Ac30 TB model alot to get some of those tones.  The Matchless, Fender Deluxe or Twin, and Cali models will also get you close.  The Plexi Variac model is used almost exclusively by Lincoln Brewster in his setup.  You have to play with the eq a bit and try some of the stomps with each - Tubescreamer works well with the Fender models.  I find that sometimes you can just crank the TB to get some good tones.

Some tips:

- Try stay as clear as possible with your tone, not too muddy with the overdrive

- Use some decent reverb to make your sound bigger and full

- Some nice delay + reverb = very nice worship atmosphere

- Be aware your single coil Strat will bite much harder on the treble side - adjust your amp models accordingly so your tone is not too harsh for the congregation/or tone controls on Strat

- Try running direct into the board... see if this works better for you

Try these sites too...

http://guitarpraise.blogspot.com/

http://www.lincolnbrewster.com/extras.php

http://www.vettaville.com/patches.htm

http://benvesco.com/tonemonster/

http://www.glenndelaune.com/index.html

Hope some of this helps,

Frank

Hello everyone,

I would have made this a new discussion but for some reason when im at my computer at work it wont let me so I just replied to this one.

This may be a dumb question to ask but ill ask anyway.

On the Lincoln Brewster website there is a place to download his patches.  There is a x3 zip file to download, will this work for my x3 live?  or is this just for the x3?

Also there is a raw x3 zip file, im assuming I will download the first one I mentioned instead of this one correct?

Thanks in advance,

Jason

I've started a section in my website for Pod Tones, go check it out, download them if you want, and comment. If you have tones that you love, please, host them on a site like Media Fire and post a link to the download in the comments section on my site.

http://chrisburke.ca/?p=1114

Here's my clean patch.  Chord work and harmonizing parts done with an Ibanez S-Classic, lead done with a strat.  Signal path was guitar(s) -> HD 300 -> USB to PC -> Audacity.  The only "fixing up" I did in Audacity was to do the fade out and to normalize the whole track.  I didn't have to mix any tracks because I did the whole piece using the looper on the HD.  I'll post more patches as I complete them.

Here's a tone I created for Worship.  I've set boosts up on f4 and a multi switch to switch the delay to a U2-ish delay on F3 on the last 2 patches.  There's an EQ so you can so you can dial it in to your church without changing the amp settings.

I did some more work on the tones and included a Clean Tone.  I tweaked these while sitting back at the board and playing through the FOH PA system so I think the tone may sound a little less bright if playing at home but should transfer well playing live.  Also I should note that I play single coil pickups so if you play with humbuckers you may need to brighten them a little or dial back the noise gate.

Hey guys. Well I've been rockin the pocketpod for now. I put it in front of a Bugera V5 amp. I play a Strat and my main sound has been the VoxAC30 setting with light tremolo to thicken my sound. I also use a MXR Carbon Copy delay whenever I need to throw in some leads. I try to keep it simple.  But one day I will have my Pod HD....One day...  

First, I love this thread! Second, to add to the never ending struggle to get tones to sound good at church vs home is one I'm constantly battling.  I have a 3 way battle at that.  1. They don't put any of the FOH mix in our IEM's because they think people would be messing with our level and such if they did (which we would ;-)  )  so they're all mixed individually and even though I'm using SCL-5's I always sound a bit thin and tinny in my ears.  2.  Our sound people tend to boost vocals, keys, and acoustic guitar way to high in the mix week in and week out.  I record all our services on my Zoom H4n and sometimes I can't even hear myself.  It sort of depressing considering all the time I put into creating my tones, praticing, etc.  I sound great in my ears during the service and go to listen to playback and don't even here myself. 3. Often our mix that goes to the web feed is mixed so sterile, sometimes no verb on the vocals that it's hard to even listen to.

I have an X3 as well as the HD500 and I have to say although I miss the Variac'd Plexi and being able to see the frequency graph for the EQ in Gearbox I find the HD a lot easier to adjust on the fly.  I have 3 quick fixes to get patches tweaked:  1. Find an hour or that you can work with your sound person and plug the HD in directly to the board at the back of the house and dial in your patches right there.  Make notes of what adjustments had to be made to get them to sound good.  2.  On that note use the patch you have set up at home and add the mid-focus EQ and use that to shape the end tone.  This way when you get back home just turn it off and it will sound good at home, turn EQ on at church.  Do this with several patches and see if your adjustments to the EQ are similar.  3. If you don't have the liberty of time alone with the PA and your HD has the looper, or you have a separate looper, loop 30 seconds or so of different playing styles clean picking, strumming, power chords, lead fills and then go out and listen to it over the PA before the rehearsal starts and make some adjustments.

Here are some tones I recently used that I liked.  On "Again I Say Rejoice" F4 is a clean boost using an FX loop so you'll need a patch cord going from your send to the return to get a pure clean boost.  On "Shout To The King" the expression pedal controls the Drive so I push it down for the main riff and and bring back down for the verses and choruses.  On "Our God" there are two patches on for the single note melody that is played through the whole song and the heavy patch for the musical bridge and ending.  I also have Variax models set in these patches so if you have one they'll work well with them.

I use an XLR Y adapter out of the L and R XLR Outs to a single XLR direct to the board this way I don't have to worry about the panning of my patches.  Let me know what you think of the patches.  Thanks and God Bless!

New guy here, but long time player. Glad to see I am not the oldest, but not by much .I returned to church in 1991 after a very long absence and started playing in praise teams in '96-97. The current team that I play in is cool. Not long after I started at the church, there was a guy who lead worship alone. Turns out he hadn't led worship in several years. I asked him if he wanted another guitarist, so he invited me for a small jam. We fit togther a pair of favourite gloves. In his words, he got to do what he wanted to, and he got to hear (from me) what he wated to hear. It is still like that. When we play together it feels good.

I have an XT Live. I bought it not long after they came out, maybe a year or so after. I was lucky enough to catch one on sale for $100 off. Never seen the price that low since. I currently use a Squire Affinity, HSS, 20th anniversay model, and British racing green. Output from the XT Live goes through a DI box to feed the soundboard, and my Peavy 40W which I use as a personal monitor. I don't sing. I use two main sounds, one with distortion, the other clean. The distortion sound is based on Ozzy Osbourne and is a combination of Jake E Lee and Randy Rhoads. It is a chorused distortion. The clean sound is based on the opening chords from Dark Side of the Moon. I have recently been tweaking a Jimmy Page patch, but I can't quite get it to sound like I want it to. I also have a handful of less used patches, but they are more geared towards acoustic style songs - lighter on the chorus basically.

I just bought a Variax 500 off Ebay and I have only had it for two days. I have a whole new learning curve with this guitar. I updated the flash memory successfully. I have only had a quick glance at the workbench software. I still have a lot of playing and exploring of the guitar to do before I can make any definitive evaluations of it, But I am beginning to like the "Lester" models.

I was pleased to find this forum. And just as pleased to be here.