Jan 29, 2011 6:45 PM
Vetta + JTV = FRUSTRATION...Not what we were promised.
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Hello to everyone in this forum!!
Has anyone figured out WHY the JTV guitars plugged into a Vetta are "seen" by the Vetta as a Variax Acoustic Model 700??? I presume this is part of the reason why the patches do not save, nor recall directly between the JTV & the Vetta using the VDI like the previous models accurately do.
Anyone think Line 6 might simply create a DI box of sorts that WILL allow the older Vax guitars plug nearly direct into the Vetta so that the guitar patches CAN be saved and recalled like the previous Vax models do? Right now, I'm using a $500.00 VDI interface called the POD HD500. It's a pretty big waste of money for such a simple task, but I am trying to create patches on the HD500 that I can not create on the Vetta so I can actually use the unit for something other than just an interface.
Take care,
Neal
Here is a photo of my current guitar rig for the larger shows I do. Massive sound, but big pain in the butt!!
In case anyone needs this...
1) Vetta 1 upgrade both hardware and software to V2 status with the newer FBV Longboard (thanks to Rick Miller for my first Vetta) & Rich Renken (for helping me get a VDI interface for my 2nd Vetta)
2) Prototype Tyler Variax Model 59US I got being one of the Beta tester team
3) POD HD500
4) (2) DT50 1x12
All gear connected in the way I like best. FX Loop out to 1/4" in of Vetta. HD500 into both DT50 via L6 iLink. (6) XLR outputs to PA system. (2) from HD500, & Vetta, (1) each from DT50s. A real "wall of sound" when all running together. I also have a Vax EC 700 set up on walk-behind stand connected VDI into the Vetta for dual guitar playing "show off" bits and other practical performance reasons.
I hope someone will see my question and have an answer - whatever that answer might be.
Take care,
Neal
The simple solution is to let go of the Vetta.
Since I got the DT50s the Vetta II has become redundant. There's a new flagship in town and when combined with the HD500, the dual DT50s leave my Vetta II combo dead in the water.
I'm wondering why you're still using the Vetta when you have a pair of DT50s and the HD500. I really prefer the HD500 and DT50s now. I haven't played the Vetta II since getting my tones built into the HD500.
You're fortunate enough to have a JTV and can take advantage of the dual Variax channel capabilities of the HD500, that's something you can't do with the Vetta.
Cheers,
Crusty
MerlinFL wrote:
patches do not save, nor recall directly between the JTV & the Vetta using the VDI like the previous models accurately do.
Could you post the info you wrote about here so we could try to figure out what is going on?:
Jan 6, 2011 2:34 PM MerlinFL wrote:
And for ANYONE who might wish to have a list or chart of sorts on EXACTLY how to work the Workbench software as well as program tunings on the guitar, how to save alt tunings to the JTV so that they will be recalled by the Vetta,...
Just ask if you wish a...
"Neals Guide to JTV patch saving & recalling features for both new & older VDI equipped gear".
It will be a typed out, VERY FRIENDLY, step by step instruction guide from me on how to get the new JTV to work with your older gear
johnnyayyy wrote:
MerlinFL wrote:
patches do not save, nor recall directly between the JTV & the Vetta using the VDI like the previous models accurately do.Could you post the info you wrote about here so we could try to figure out what is going on?:
Jan 6, 2011 2:34 PM MerlinFL wrote:
And for ANYONE who might wish to have a list or chart of sorts on EXACTLY how to work the Workbench software as well as program tunings on the guitar, how to save alt tunings to the JTV so that they will be recalled by the Vetta,...
Just ask if you wish a...
"Neals Guide to JTV patch saving & recalling features for both new & older VDI equipped gear".
It will be a typed out, VERY FRIENDLY, step by step instruction guide from me on how to get the new JTV to work with your older gear
I did start to create this manual, but then I realized that for the VERY FEW people who would actually want something like this, it was too much work and Line 6 itself doesn't think it's necessary for those they are selling to, so I went along with that business model and stopped spending my time to create a manual.
In all the time since this previous posting, I've spent TONS of hours working with the HD500, DT50s, and my JTV 59, plus all the latest versions of the software released that fixed many of the original glitches and problems I was having. I've gotten to the point where I can bring any of the gear I have and use it well or well enough for any guitar situation I'm presented with. the BEST is still when I combine both the Vetta with the new HD500/DT50/JTV59 combination which makes a very cool looking pyramid of Line 6 goodness.
I'm about 2/3rds of the way through the HD500 matching it up as close as possible to the patches on my Vetta, but I am simply running out of ways to make (NOW 17 with the additional Electrik Amp) amps/cabs sound that are on the HD500. Yep, even with the additional tweaking features like Bias, Bright & Norm input versions, that are adjustable on the "real thing" etc. I still cannot quite get the full variety of sounds with the new gear as I can with the Vetta. So I'm in the process of playing around with these latest tweaking additions and perhaps those will make up for the lack of variety.
Once done, I'll be offering a COMPLETE JTV - HD500 - DT50 - VETTA CD of ALL my patches. As long as whomever might be interested in such a thing has all the latest updated software, these patches will work and perhaps save others TONS of time I've spent creating them. I'm especially proud of getting the HD500 and DT50 combination to produce a very warm and authentic sounding Acoustic guitar amp. For whatever reason, this was left out. I presume for the same reasons that only the HD500 has a VDI connection while the other two models do not. I happen to USE the acoustic models offered by the original and JTV Variax guitars, and the Vetta had FOUR acoustic specific settings while the new gear has none.
Anyway - enough from me for another long period of time. I'll certainly let "everyone" know when I've got a CD available with all the years worth of Vetta patches, plus Vax patches and a full bundle of HD500 patches. They will work independently, but even better - they will work together with a wonderful resulting combination of sounds.
'Til next time,
Neal
MerlinFL wrote:
patches do not save, nor recall directly between the JTV & the Vetta using the VDI like the previous models accurately do.
So far a few people have reported their JTV is working properly with their Vetta in this thread: http://line6.com/community/thread/58557?tstart=0
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