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  • gcdef Just Startin' 11 posts since
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    30. Mar 14, 2011 6:33 AM (in response to jacoby75)
    Re: Relay G50 signal dropout

    Add me to the list of people getting dropouts from this thing.  I "upgraded" from the XDS-95 because it would drop out all the time too.  While the G50 isn't as bad in that the dropouts only last for a second or so, it still does it every few minutes.  This is completely unacceptable in a $400 product designed for stage use.  The fact that both Line 6 wireless products I've used are incapable of sustaining a signal for more than a few minutes makes me think they're not ready for prime time yet. 

  • dboomer Line 6 Support 1,997 posts since
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    31. Mar 14, 2011 12:20 PM (in response to gcdef)
    Re: Relay G50 signal dropout

    There are multiple 10's of thousands of these radios working with great results out in the world.  Any radio will dropout if the right conditions happen.

     

    Please take a look at the new troubleshooting FAQ in our documents section ...  http://line6.com/community/docs/DOC-2217 for ideas to remedy your situation.

  • gcdef Just Startin' 11 posts since
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    33. Mar 14, 2011 12:28 PM (in response to dboomer)
    Re: Relay G50 signal dropout

    I'll try as much of that as applies.  Your support guy suggested I try different channels too, but it's hard to experiment on stage.  I'm glad you have lots of them working, but of all the wireless devices I've been around, I've never seen any that drop like the XDS and G50.  Gear designed for live use shouldn't be tempremental.

  • dboomer Line 6 Support 1,997 posts since
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    34. Mar 14, 2011 1:00 PM (in response to gcdef)
    Re: Relay G50 signal dropout

    You need to determine whether you have a hardware issue or a local condition issue.  If it turns out to be hardware you won't be able to solve it yourself.  Can you possible try another unit?

     

    Interesting thing with Relay ... because it is digital it gives no warning audible when it mutes.  Analog systems would have gotten noisy, distorted or both before they drop out.  It makes Relay feel more severe ... but in reality it's actually holding on much longer than an analog system.  So comparatively, analog is much more temperamental.

  • gcdef Just Startin' 11 posts since
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    35. Mar 14, 2011 1:18 PM (in response to dboomer)
    Re: Relay G50 signal dropout

    I don't have another unit I can try. I bought it from a dealer in another state, so an exchange isn't really practical.  Since it's happened of 4 or 5 places now, I doubt it's a location issue.

  • dboomer Line 6 Support 1,997 posts since
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    36. Mar 14, 2011 1:29 PM (in response to gcdef)
    Re: Relay G50 signal dropout

    Then it sounds like you could have a hardware issue.  Please call our service department ... 818.575.3600

  • gcdef Just Startin' 11 posts since
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    37. Mar 14, 2011 1:35 PM (in response to dboomer)
    Re: Relay G50 signal dropout

    I did.  Talked to Hugh I think he said his name was.  As far as I got with him was try another channel.

  • dboomer Line 6 Support 1,997 posts since
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    38. Mar 14, 2011 3:28 PM (in response to gcdef)
    Re: Relay G50 signal dropout

    Just request warranty repair.

  • geoffreyirvin Just Startin' 4 posts since
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    39. Apr 29, 2011 9:51 PM (in response to adamdegraff)
    Re: Performance issues - Self Check

    Going directly from the the receiver to the mixer, if I output from the main, I get either NO sound, or garbled sound. If I switch the output to the tuner/aux it works. Same is true with any and ALL transmitters. I also have been trying different channels. No difference. I have tried pairing with other receivers and, when paired with a functioning receiver, it works fine from the main output.

     

     

    Hi Adam,

                  just wondering about the simple things... is the phantom power switched on on any of the mixer inputs?

     

     

    Dboomer, I am a big fan of the G50, but do get the odd drop out now and then due to line of sight issues, walking/running through the crowd and stuff. Are the antenna's available for the G90 etc adaptable to the G50?

    If not, will Line 6 think about something for it? A lot of us aren't running racks and just want to elevate the antenna's while powering the receiver from the pedal board.

     

    Cheers for the forum.

  • dboomer Line 6 Support 1,997 posts since
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    40. Apr 30, 2011 8:49 AM (in response to geoffreyirvin)
    Re: Performance issues - Self Check

    Hello Geoffery

     

    1) Sounds like you have a receiver that has a failed output.  Please call our service department and get it taken care of.  818.575.3600

     

    2) I don't think pahntom is an issue because you generally can't get phantom power up into a 1/4" jack (it has to be balanced)

     

    3)  You could use a pair of the rubber duckie antennas that come with the G90/V70.  These are 1/2 wave type which means that they will work when not connected to the chassis, and they have a little more gain.  You could probably use 6-10 feet of RG58 antenna cable (BNC/BNC) and get one or both antennas up a bit.  If you try to use longer cable than this there will be too much loss and it will require an antenna amp so the shorter the better.

  • dbun Just Startin' 64 posts since
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    41. Jul 21, 2011 6:30 PM (in response to rsto10)
    Re: Relay G50 signal dropout

    rsto10 wrote:

     

    I just heard from my local Line 6 dealer that contacted Line 6 on my behalf. They said there was a bad manufacturing run of G50's and they require a firmware update. This is something that Line 6 has to do, so effected units must be sent in for service or exchanged (if your store will allow) for a newer unit with updated firmware. If this is the case, I hope this info saves you all some headaches.

    I know this is an old thread, however:

     

    How do you know what firmware your G50 is running??

     

    The reason I ask is because I have a G30 that plays up at a certain venue. The only real difference between this venue and the other venues I play at is the high level of wireless activity from IEM packs, mics etc.

     

    I just purchased a G50 in the hopes that it will work better (in case the G30 had a hardware fault) but I was wanting to upgrade anyway for the added range and metal construction. It would be handy to compare them side by side in determining whether or not it is a hardware fault or just a situation where the Relay units can't cope.

     

    I'm guessing that since it is a new purchase that it should be from the latest batch with the most up to date firmware, however, I would just like to be sure.

  • jothhunt Just Startin' 2 posts since
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    42. Aug 1, 2011 10:18 PM (in response to dboomer)
    Re: Relay G50 signal dropout

    i have gone through 3 G50 Relay systems.

    the first 2 i bought in USA, had minor dropouts, i put up with it.

    12 months later i bought another here in Australia. SAME THING!

    I notice the drop outs most when i am in a bigger venue, with more lighting (wireless)..

     

    I do keep my eye on the signal meter and i see all 3 green bars turn off, then back on..

     

    is it likely that by chance i have ended up with 3 faulty units?

  • dbun Just Startin' 64 posts since
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    43. Aug 1, 2011 10:51 PM (in response to jothhunt)
    Re: Relay G50 signal dropout

    It would seem unlikely that you could end up with 3 faulty units. Surely the failure rate couldn't be that bad.

     

    Are you powering the receiver with the supplied power supplies? If not, is the power supply you are using capable of delivering enough juice to the receiver?

     

    What else do you have running at the same time? You mentioned lighting; what about IEM packs, wireless mics etc?

     

    Does the G50 Relay work perfectly anywhere, or does it drop out all the time, just to varying degrees?

     

    Where is the G50 receiver placed? Is it sitting on top of anything metal? Metal reflects the RF in strange ways that can cause issues.

     

    How far away are you from the receiver? If you are close to the receiver, try changing the transmitter to 'low power' mode. You should still be able to cover the whole stage in terms of range.

     

    My G30 is perfectly fine everywhere except the main auditorium at church, where we run lots of wireless mics and IEM packs. There is a fair bit of lighting too, but the lighting is not controlled wirelessly, so I don't think would cause any issues. It seems we are experiencing similar issues in a similar environment.

  • dboomer Line 6 Support 1,997 posts since
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    44. Aug 2, 2011 6:38 PM (in response to jothhunt)
    Re: Relay G50 signal dropout

    Yep ... first big question is are you using the factory power supply?

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