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Bobbyl57 Just Startin' 7 posts since
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Oct 9, 2011 2:52 PM

JTV battery life

Hi guys. I was under the impression that if the JTV is run using the line power supply that the battery will not run down but after my gig starting with a full charge the battery is down to 3 indicator lights. Am I missing something?

  • Nick_Mattocks Best of the Best 9,065 posts since
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    Oct 9, 2011 3:17 PM (in response to Bobbyl57)
    Re: JTV battery life

    Hi

     

    I'm not sure what you mean by 'Line power supply'?

     

    If you use a standard 1/4" jack instrument lead the internal battery will be switched on and it will be drained through usage

     

    If you have purchased or already own an XPS A/B interface and are using it with a TRS instrument cable the guitar should receive its power from the XPS A/B box, but I can't say 100% whether the internal JTV battery is isolated - it should be, and I believe it is.

     

    If you are running your JTV into a compatible POD or amp using a VDI cable, your guitar's battery is not in circuit and should definitely not be drained - this is the way I use my JTV guitars 99% of the time.

     

    Nick

      • ozbadman Gear Head 1,474 posts since
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        Oct 9, 2011 3:57 PM (in response to Bobbyl57)
        Re: JTV battery life

        Try taking your battery out. You should be able to run your JTV without a battery using the XPS-AB.

      • Nick_Mattocks Best of the Best 9,065 posts since
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        Oct 10, 2011 12:51 AM (in response to Bobbyl57)
        Re: JTV battery life

        Hmmm

         

        I would not have expected the internal battery to drain when using the XPS Mini (black plastic box) or the XPS A/B box, but I'm guessing now that the internal battery is activated by a switch in the 'sleeve' part of the output jack socket on the guitar where the sleeve of the jack plug completes the circuit between two points.  I have XPS Mini and XPS A/B boxes here but although I have tested the XPS A/B box with the JTV, that's all I've done.  I would normally run through VDI to the HD500 or POD HD Pro or just from the internal battery. 

         

        On that basis, I would have to say that what you are experiencing is probably normal behaviour in that case. 

         

        I would suggest that as David says, you run the guitar without the internal battery connected as was I recall the recommendation for the old style Variaxes too as ISTR similar issues with those.

         

        Nick

          • Nick_Mattocks Best of the Best 9,065 posts since
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            Oct 10, 2011 3:41 PM (in response to Bobbyl57)
            Re: JTV battery life

            When I get a minute I will try and double check this behaviour with my JTVs, but I can't say when that will be.

             

            Nick

            • lindsayward Just Startin' 156 posts since
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              Oct 21, 2012 3:27 PM (in response to Nick_Mattocks)
              Re: JTV battery life

              I thought I'd add to this thread rather than starting a new one.

              97% (give or take) of the time I use my JTV-59 via VDI to my POD HD500 and I notice that my battery still drains (based on the green lights when you push the button on the back).

              It seems that it should not use the battery when connected to power through VDI. I doubt that the rate of discharge I see is the same as I would get with the battery in storage, so I've removed the battery for now.

              Can anyone else confirm they see the same thing? Is this a 'bug' that could be fixed with an update?

              • Icewind Just Startin' 230 posts since
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                Oct 21, 2012 3:41 PM (in response to lindsayward)
                Re: JTV battery life

                Confirmed; I definitely see the battery drain, and I only use it with the VDI-to-HD500 connection.

                • davidb7170 Just Startin' 253 posts since
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                  Oct 21, 2012 8:37 PM (in response to Icewind)
                  Re: JTV battery life

                  I also use my JTV-59 & now 69S with DVI to my HD500, and prior to that, my X3L and XTL. I found it redundant to have the battery in there when I was powering it from the pedal, so I always have the battery out. I do keep it in my guitar case as a backup. I did need it once, as my VDI cable end apparently got bent or something -- don't remember stepping on it or anything, but one night at a gig about a year ago, one end just no longer fit in either the JTV or the POD X3L at the time, so I pulled out the battery and plugged into the X3L guitar in 1/4" jack for the night. It had been in my case for literally months, but still had a respectable charge on it to get me through. I quickly ordered anothe VDI cable, as I really missed the model switching with the patches -- even with the X3L.

                   

                  When I got the nw 69S last week, I checked the battery that came with it and it was only showing one LED on the 69S, so I pulled out the charger and left it charging over night. It lit up all LED's the next day. Out of curiosity, I then pulled the battery out of my 59's guitar case and put it in the 69S to check the charge, and it lit up all LED's on the guitar. Again, it's been months since I last charged that battery. Li-Ion batterys hold thier charges for very long times, as opposed to Ni-Cad's, and they also do not have the "memory" issues of Ni-Cad's from too-frequent charging, and charging before their drained. With Ni-Cad's it's best to operate the battery until drained, with Li-Ion and gel-cells, if they go completely dead, they are usually done and you can't re-charge them. I know this for a fact on gel-cells, and am pretty sure it's that way on the Li-Ion's as well.

                   

                  My advice if you run on the HD500, HDPro, X3L, or XTL power, pull the battery, charge it and store it in your guitar case for contingencies or use with a regular amp & 1/4" cable -- keep one of those handy as well, just in case. I'm glad I did that night....

                   

                  Dave

                  • lindsayward Just Startin' 156 posts since
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                    Oct 23, 2012 4:44 AM (in response to davidb7170)
                    Re: JTV battery life

                    Thanks for the responses guys. I now have my battery in my case. Wow, the guitar's so much lighter now .

                     

                    I guess Line 6 won't read this thread now, but if they do - is this battery-draining something that can be fixed with an update?

                    • leyfr01 Just Startin' 74 posts since
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                      Nov 28, 2012 6:31 AM (in response to lindsayward)
                      Re: JTV battery life

                      The battery in my JTV-59 will run for 4 straight shows on a full charge.  In between sets I unplug the guitar so that battery doesn't drain. At the end of 4 shows I am down to 2 lights. In addition I use the modeling portion of the guitar for alternate tunings and different guitar tones.  I would say that equates to 1/3 of the total use. Hope this helps.

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