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Esandqvist Just Startin' 8 posts since
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Oct 14, 2011 2:10 PM

Problem with Variax 300

Sometimes when I play the guitar changes the model by itself, and sometimes back and fort between two models really fast, creating a flickering and really annoying sound. I have tried several cables (both variax and stereo tele) but the problem remains so there has to be something wrong with the guitar. What's wrong and how do I fix it?

  • JellyWheat Gear Head 1,220 posts since
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    Oct 15, 2011 5:29 AM (in response to Esandqvist)
    Re: Problem with Variax 300

    This is a well-documented, very common issue with Variax guitars having a "coffin assembly" inside of them, like the 300 electric.

     

    You need to take the guitar apart, remove the scratch-guard, and insulate the INSIDE of the metal box housing the circuit board with electrical tape or liquid electrical tape.

     

    Mark the orientation of all snap-in connections, and clean all contacts with a good-quality non-lubricated pot cleaner before you put it all back together.

     

    This should solve your problem.

     

    [There are TONS of threads on this matter in the archives...]

     

    Regards,

    JellyWheat

      • amx05462 Power User 3,495 posts since
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        Oct 15, 2011 2:22 PM (in response to Esandqvist)
        Re: Problem with Variax 300

        ah  the  outstanding  one   has  come up with the goods once  again,   were i you id  mostgratefully award    him his   pernts  for correct  answer.

         

        i might add that    J/W usually  always   says to  blow off the main board  and its connections.   because   the variax 300 being very old    could  have  accumulated  a bit  of dust and crud possibly even  a  cat hair  or two. and  since  you have  already got it  apart at this  point   he  would most likely  tell you to  clean the pots  and   the   5 way switch  with  contact  cleaner.  then blow everything  out with dustoff.

         

        and i can pretty much guarantee  tht  J/W would  also tell you that the only way your gonna get contact  cleaner   in the pots  is down the  shafts  as  there  not  open pots.   he would also say  to give  the model change pot a good  cleaning as well.

         

          and  then blow that out with  dustoff. he would defenitly tell you  to work  these  switches  while wet  .  hed  also   let you know  in the absence  of  electrical tape  or loquid  electrical tape  you could  use   a non conductive paint done  in a few   coats. and  also to leave the large cover  off the  coffin case  as  its just not a necessity.  as  with the two ground  wires going from it to the wood  body.

         

        i tell ya  man   hes a genious  and  if  he werent  in a hurry to  fly off  to help  the next person  in trouble  much like  superman.....   he  would  have   told  you these  other  things. but duty calls  and    off  he  goes  faster  than a speeding bullit 

         

        yep   ITS A BIRD...ITS A PLANE ..   NOPE   ITS OUR  MAN JELLY WHEAT   off to save  another   variax  owner...     simply put ...  hes  my  idol...

         

        signed------------  robin----------OOPS.... jimmy olsen

        • amx05462 Power User 3,495 posts since
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          Oct 15, 2011 2:20 PM (in response to amx05462)
          Re: Problem with Variax 300

          ps.

           

          he sees  all with his xray vision......................

          • JellyWheat Gear Head 1,220 posts since
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            Oct 15, 2011 6:48 PM (in response to Esandqvist)
            Re: Problem with Variax 300

            INDEED, O Great, All-Knowing One, Keeper of the Pearls of Many Colors, and Chief Knought of the Apex of the Trapazoidal Table... I would have said just that.

             

            Actually, I was reticent to do so because, between the two of us, we have typed these same admonitions so many times before.

             

            In fairness to Esandqvist, finding these many posts is NOT a trivial matter, since Line 6 Support deigns not to formally acknowledge the issue by publishing an "official fix" for this issue in the Documents section.

             

            Owing to the potential of the procedure we espouse to effect permanent adverse consequences in respect of the subject coffin assembly, in the event the disentrunculation of same be not correctly and judiciously performed, it surprises me not that the Establishment, in its desire to limit its own corporate liablility against collateral damages, abrogated its ethical responsibility to provide post-sale information which might be construed, by some litigious factions,to be a de facto admission of unsuitability for purpose of the initial design.

             

            But "DAMN the TORPEDOES", I say... "HAVE AT IT, once and for all", I say, and vanquish the Voltaic Vampires of the dreaded coffin assembly, wherin their legions lurk.

             

            Ahem... but otherwise - it is as you say, Excellency!

             

            J/W

            • amx05462 Power User 3,495 posts since
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              Oct 16, 2011 1:54 AM (in response to JellyWheat)
              Re: Problem with Variax 300

              well   while  what  you say  is true to the  letter . they will never  admit  that the  coffin case  assembly  while good  for there  end  drop in assembly wise .. was indeed    a poor idea  at best.  had  it been made  of abs ...   well thats another  story.

               

              but the  original issue  at  hand   was  your well deserved  pernts  and  once    again my fellow   knought...

               

              you have gotten the unwanted  insertion in the nether  regions.

               

                i believe   that  we  should   think about recalibrating  your efforts in the future.

               

              in other  words   those  that seeketh   ye advice    should   reward thou   with thee  pernts  lest   they be  banished  from ye kingdom   for ever...

               

                judging  by the  change  in avatar....  you agree

      • amx05462 Power User 3,495 posts since
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        Oct 20, 2011 2:29 PM (in response to Esandqvist)
        Re: Problem with Variax 300

        uh  um.... slide it back a bit?

         

        ok  if this is  really that big  of a problem  you may be in over  your  head  and   so id suggest   put  the screws  in and take it  to an authorised  repair person..

          • JellyWheat Gear Head 1,220 posts since
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            Oct 21, 2011 9:44 AM (in response to Esandqvist)
            Re: Problem with Variax 300

            Just be careful when you do that ... it's easy to break the fine antenna wire that connects the Variax to the UFAA [Under Fretboard Antenna Array].

             

            Not to worry, however, we will help you through that, if it occurs...

             

            Regards,

            J/W

              • JellyWheat Gear Head 1,220 posts since
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                Oct 26, 2011 2:49 PM (in response to Esandqvist)
                Re: Problem with Variax 300

                Well, it looks as though you are in luck. You can see the small hole drilled in the treble side of the neck pocket... that was originally for the UFAA lead. But it was SO fragile that only a few very early production units were fitted with it. If the guts of your guitar look like the pictures, you have the refined version of the original Variax circuit, with NO UFAA wire to break, twist, or disentrunculate.

                 

                [The VettaVille site is a great resource for this sort of thing, however, isn't it?]

                 

                Is your guitar back together and working as it should, BTW???

                 

                Regards,

                J/W

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