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stevekc Just Startin' 114 posts since
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JTV-69 Tremolo Setup

*NOTE: Any customization/modification performed will void the warranty if it results in damage to the guitar.

 

Tyler Variax JTV-69  - Trem Set-up   (for the Summer 2011 version)          Oct.30, 2011

 

Background: After a one year wait, when I received my JTV-69 in mid September 2011,  I was surprised to find the tremolo was not stable.  So I contacted Line 6 and got an RMA # and earlier this week, my guitar was returned fresh from Line6 repair with a much improved stable tremolo.

(details here:)  http://line6.com/support/thread/72577?tstart=0

 

But I thought there was still room for improvement. This document describes my findings.  I understand a large part of the secret to tuning stability is using the correct type internal piezo cable mount, and cable tie - both must be installed correctly- keep reading!

Of course Line 6 ships these guitars with the tremolo bar removed (and packed in the gig bag), and the Tyler Variax JTV-69 Owners Manual (as of October 2011)  makes ZERO mention of how the owner should properly install and adjust the JTV-69 tremolo bar, or setup the Tremolo. They do ship a bag of half a dozen Allen wrenches, but I quickly discovered many of these wrenches are the wrong size, while many crucial wrenches are missing.

My other Major complaint is with my new JTV-69 Tremolo bar. No matter what I tried, it seemed very wobbly and would always work itself loose after 30 minutes of play. I racked it up to yet another poor "off shore" design. As a prior Variax 700 and 600 tremolo guitar owner, I just assumed the JTV-69 trem bar and trem bar tension adjust set screw was identical to those older Variax's – WRONG!

 

I'm a luthier for 30+ years - (worked at Valley Arts Guitar in Studio City, CA  in the 1980's) and after a full teardown and rebuild of my JTV-69,  I have now discovered most of the secrets to obtain the maximum utilization of the JTV-69. I discovered undocumented features of the latest "Gen 2" design summer 2011 JTV-69 Tremolo Bar and Internal Piezo Cable Ties, so I have created this document to share what I have learned.

 

(I should note if you own a 2nd generation JTV-69 like mine, you  may be able to simply install the Tremolo Bar like a vintage Strat - that is,

 

How to Install the Tremolo Bar on the "Gen 2" (Summer 2011) JTV-69:

 

1) Be sure you have the correct "Gen 2" Tremolo Bar for your "Gen 2" JTV-69 Tremolo - it should look like this (see the threaded hole in the bottom) :

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/elantric/JTV%20Variax/P1020060.jpg


2 ) Push Tremolo Bar into the trem bar hole on the Bridge plate.

 

3 ) Gently rotate the tremolo bar clockwise until it catches the internal threads on the hidden internal lead screw.

 

4) Rotate the Tremolo bar 6 or 7 times clockwise until it bottoms out and sits fully down inside the bridge.

 

5) Adjust the Tremolo bar tension with the small Allen set screw that is located on the lower side of the chrome round collet on the bridge plate.

 

 

without all this disassembly! )

 

 

 


For Reference

First Generation JTV-69 Tremolo Bridge:

In the pic below, this is what the first generation (2010)  Tyler Variax JTV-69 bridge looks like – observe the “U shaped” cast area on the bridge plate where the trem bar pushes in.

jtv-69_3.png

Here is an internal view of the first generation JTV-69 Bridge – observe the cable tie locations to manage the two cables between the hexaphonic piezo bridge and the DSP PC board.

IMG_1009.JPGIMG_1016.JPG

 

2nd Generation JTV-69 Tremolo Bridge:

In the pic below is the 2nd generation (2011) Tyler Variax JTV-69 bridge. Observe the new round shaped chrome plated mounting collet on the top of bridge plate where the trem bar pushes in.

(Click on each pic for the full size view!)

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/elantric/JTV%20Variax/IMG_3193.jpg

Below is a picture of an INCORRECT INTERNAL PIEZO CABLE TIE METHOD. This is exactly how my guitar was assembled this past summer 2011 by World Music in Korea when I discovered my new guitar had major tremolo stability problems.

(details and a video of my original Tremolo Stability problem is here:)

http://line6.com/support/message/319248#319248

 

 

 

I have since learned this cable tie method is INCORRECT!  This is what my guitar looked like BEFORE my RMA warranty repair at Line 6 :

(Click on each pic for the full size view!)

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/elantric/JTV%20Variax/IMG_3113.jpg

Fast Forward 2 weeks later!

Upon return of my JTV-69 from Line6 warranty repair, I inspected the tremolo area and snapped some pics of the proper "factory authorized" piezo cable routing.

Below is an internal view of the second generation JTV-69 Bridge and piezo cable harness assembly – WITH THE CORRECT Cable clamp locations!  Observe the 1st white nylon cable clamp is attached to the bridge using a black  Allen panhead screw. I discovered this screw also serves as an "INTERNAL TREM BAR RETENSION SCREW", and secures the white cable clamp.

 

 

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/elantric/JTV%20Variax/P1010999.jpg

Note:

 

If you do not have a small cable clamp in your parts bin - if you are in the USA- go to hardware store, Lowe's , Home Depot or Radio Shack and get one of these similar Cable Clamps and modify it with side cutter pliers to resemble the official cable clamp above. Basically you want to have ONLY the lower screw mounting hole. Cut off the upper screw mount in the Home Depot clamp below:

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/elantric/JTV%20Variax/Picture47.png

 

 

Attention, there is an important 2nd hidden cable tie! In the pic below, observe the 2nd internal cable tie located out of sight, inside the cable feed thru hole to the DSP board inside the body. Securing these cables properly is mandatory for proper Tremolo operation. If the Piezo bridge cables are not properly managed with tie wraps placed at specific locations, they WILL  create friction as the cables rub against the body and become a constant source of tremolo instability.

 

 

 

 

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/elantric/JTV%20Variax/P1020019.jpg

 

and another pic of this "hidden"  black cable tie!

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/elantric/JTV%20Variax/P1020037.jpg

 

LETS GET TO WORK!

 

These are to the tools I used. Its important to note the JTV-69 Bridge uses a mix of both American SAE and Metric screws. You will need a good supply of both type Allen wrenches.

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/elantric/JTV%20Variax/P1020111.jpg

 

* Remove the Strings.

 

* While you have the strings off, be sure to tighten the Tuners using a 10mm wrench. Do not overtighten! (My tuners were very loose and this can create lots of tuning stability problems!) 

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/elantric/JTV%20Variax/P1020088.jpg

 

Before we dive in too deep, lets examine and familiarize ourselves the stock JTV-69  Tremolo area and Piezo cable harness assembly. Below is the Guitar, after my RMA - fresh from Line 6 repair.

(Click on each pic for the full size view!)

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/elantric/JTV%20Variax/P1020030.jpg

 

In the pic above, note the stock tremolo springs - I find these can become a source of sympathetic vibration.

Fresh out of the box from the factory  - my JTV-69 had a few anomalies with some of the Alt Tunings.  I traced it down to the tremolo springs, which can continue to vibrate like an old Spring reverb tank, even after you have muted the strings. The sensitive Piezo bridge saddles can not distinguish a vibrating string from a vibrating rear tremolo spring.   

 

If you ever experience a faint sound of vibrating garage door springs behind your playing, or jitter or off pitched anomalies during your Variax Alt tunings as the string vibration decays,  I have a fix  -keep reading!

 

 

I also found the internal factory white piezo cable clamp was still rubbing inside the body cavity and causing friction. (we will fix this too!)  - see pic below:

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/elantric/JTV%20Variax/P1020026.jpg

 

* Carefully remove the Piezo Cable Assembly from the DSP board.  At the white Molex connector "J1", gently lift to remove the cable assembly from the DSP Board.

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/elantric/JTV%20Variax/IMG_3116.jpg

* Carefully remove the Bridge and Piezo Cable assembly from the guitar.

 

It should look like this: Note the location of both white Cable clamp, and the Black Cable Tie wrap - we will retain these!

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/elantric/JTV%20Variax/P1020041.jpg

In the pic above, observe the 2nd generation Tremolo Bar mount. Its very different from the 1st generation JTV-69 Bridge! Also observe the black panhead allen screw which is securing the white cable clamp. I discovered this important screw does several things!!!

 

Advanced Tip: In the pic below is a Gotoh Floyd Rose bridge (on the left), and the JTV-69 Bridge (on the right):

(Click on each pic for the full size view!)

 

 

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/elantric/JTV%20Variax/P1020056.jpg

  Initially I was going to "swap" the trem bar mount off the Floyd Rose bridge, and put it on the JTV-69 Bridge, as I MUCH prefer the top mounted knurled nut on the Floyd Trem Bar.  This allows hand adjustment of the trem bar tension with no tools!  I may yet still perform this modification, as I'm always adjusting my trem bar (I play in a '60's Surf Band:  "The Dentures!)  But right before I proceeded making this swap, I inspected the JTV-69 Tremolo Bar and made an interesting discovery - see pic below:

 

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/elantric/JTV%20Variax/P1020060.jpg

 

* In the above pic, observe the 2nd generation JTV-69 Trem Bar has Internal screw threads!  It was designed to be mated with the internal black pan head screw, as depicted in the pics below:

 

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/elantric/JTV%20Variax/P1020058.jpg

 

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/elantric/JTV%20Variax/P1020065.jpg

 

* Install the Tremolo Bar to the Bridge. With the black panhead screw removed, Insert the Tremolo Bar all the way, then secure the tremolo bar to the bridge using the Black Pan Head Screw!   Important - be sure the white Cable clamp gets returned to its original location!

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/elantric/JTV%20Variax/P1020066.jpg

 

(I should note if you own a 2nd generation JTV-69 like mine, you simply install the Tremolo Bar like a vintage Strat - that is, insert the bar into the bridge and then rotate the bar clockwise several times -  to "thread" the bar onto the internal black screw without all this disassembly! )

 

 

* Next set the Trem Bar Tension using the small side mounted tension set screw:

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/elantric/JTV%20Variax/P1020072.jpg

 

* Carefully re-install the JTV-69 Bridge back on the guitar. Pay attention to gently pass the Piezo bridge connector and cable thru the hole to the DSP board, and reconnect the cable to the "J1" connector on the DSP board.

 

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/elantric/JTV%20Variax/P1020097.jpg

 

 

 

CLICK THE PIC BELOW

 

 

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/elantric/JTV%20Variax/P1020106.jpg

 

Here is my re-installed JTV-69 Bridge. Note a few important steps I performed prior to installing the bridge! :

 

1) I trimmed the left side of the White Cable Clamp, to provide additional clearance. This should eliminate future possiblity of it ever making any contact with the body, and causing friction and tremolo instability.

 

2) I put heat shrink on the Tremolo Springs - this make a big difference as it silences them from ever making minute vibrations that could be picked up by the piezo saddles  - and create anomalies with alt tunings.  Actually these are the factory springs from my Variax 600 - Line 6 used to always heat shrink the tremolo springs, to dampen out thier vibration!

 

3) I Lubricated to the two Bridge pivot points on the top Bridge plate  - I used Stewmac Guitar Grease

http://www.stewmac.com/product_images/1sm/3413/Guitar_Grease_sm.jpg

 

* Here is a top view! I adjusted the spring claw for the bridge to be floating  - just as it arrived from the factory.

(Interesting that my brass Trem Pivot mounts are sitting so far above the body, Its likely I will swap these out for Warmoth Locking Gotoh Trem Mounts)

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/elantric/JTV%20Variax/P1020125.jpg

 

* Adjust the Bridge Plate - for minimum friction on the bridge pivot points, adjust the two Bridge Pivot Screws so the Bridge Plate is perfectly flat and level with the top of the Guitar Body. Below is a photo of an incorrect Bridge Plate height setting - note the Low E side (on the left) is set much higher than the High E side (on the right) - we will want to correct this using the top two bridge pivot adjust screws so the Bridge Plate is completely level with the top of the Guitar Body from this view.

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/elantric/JTV%20Variax/P1020146.jpg

* After setting the Bridge plate level with the top of the guitar body, then we can adjust each string's individual Bridge Saddle Height with a small 5/64 inch allen wrench -  not included with the JTV-69 !

 

 

* Adjust the pickup height.  I should point out the JTV-69 uses single coil pickups with strong magnets. I adjusted the pickup height same as I would a vintage Fender Strat - that is I made damn sure the bass side of the pickup is backed away from the strings. If these pickups are set too close to the strings, it kills sustain, and the strong magnets can actually "pull" the low strings sharp with periodic oscillations as seen on a strobe tuner. Lower the pickups and these oscilaltion anomalies go away, and sustain improves!

 

 

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/elantric/JTV%20Variax/P1020131.jpg

*  Below is a pic of the properly installed tremolo bar. Now that it is threaded onto to the internal black screw, observe the trem bar now sits lower to the body and now feels VERY SOLID and robust !!  I doubt it will pop off and fall to the floor at gigs, as it used to do!

 

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/elantric/JTV%20Variax/P1020123.jpg

 

* Lets set action and re-check the intonation -   I made fine adjustments to the string height,and used my old Iphone 3G with Peterson iStrobosoft application to adjust the intonation.

 

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/elantric/JTV%20Variax/P1020109.jpg 

* Job Complete - Time to play!

 

Hope this info is useful for others who want to get their JTV-69 dialed in and working properly.

 

 

EDIT:

I've been asked:  "Where do I obtain heat shrink tubing for the tremolo springs?"

I have used Harbor Freight 127 piece Heat Shrink Tubing Set $3.00

http://www.harborfreight.com/127-piece-heat-shrink-tubing-set-67524.html

 

http://www.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/370x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_15871.jpg

 

The actual pieces I used on the Tremolo Springs from the kit above states its "10mm diameter"  (metric) and it shrinks perfectly around each Spring to dampen its vibration.

 

There many alternative methods to dampen the tremolo springs: just google "dampen Strat Tremolo Springs" for many other methods,

 

 

"The tremolo springs on some guitars ring so loud when playing that they're audible through the amp, and add all sorts of unsavory dissonant overtones to your notes. This is a good cure."

    • silverhead Expert Line 6 User 9,592 posts since
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      Oct 31, 2011 8:53 AM (in response to stevekc)
      Re: JTV-69 Tremolo Setup

      Wow, that's some great work and very useful info, stevekc. Thanks for taking so much time and putting in the effort for the benefit of others.

    • favance Just Startin' 52 posts since
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      Oct 31, 2011 11:07 AM (in response to stevekc)
      Re: JTV-69 Tremolo Setup

      Any benefits for the rest of us Gen 1 tremolo users to get the new version?  Is the latest version better?

        • stumpsout Just Startin' 895 posts since
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          Nov 1, 2011 9:41 AM (in response to stevekc)
          Re: JTV-69 Tremolo Setup

          Thanks for your work and info.

            • jayson2 Just Startin' 77 posts since
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              Nov 3, 2011 8:54 PM (in response to stevekc)
              Re: JTV-69 Tremolo Setup

              Awesome Steve.  Answers all my questions!

               

              Cheers,

               

              jayson

  • sfeinstein Just Startin' 28 posts since
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    Nov 4, 2011 12:49 PM (in response to stevekc)
    Re: JTV-69 Tremolo Setup

    Now that is some very detailed description. I just purchased a jtv-69. I am hoping that it is of the gen-2 version, as I have no where near the skills that you have working on guitars. Thanks for this thread.

  • pugdealer Just Startin' 71 posts since
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    Nov 20, 2011 8:02 AM (in response to stevekc)
    Re: JTV-69 Tremolo Setup

    From reading this discussion, it gives me the impression that when I buy my jtv-69 I have to spend a whole lot of time seting it up, and fixing the springs vibrations, etc etc...

     

    Really doesn't give me the confidence to buy it...guess I should be better of going for a jtv-59, huh!?!?!?!?

  • guitar4u Just Startin' 142 posts since
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    Nov 20, 2011 10:06 PM (in response to stevekc)
    Re: JTV-69 Tremolo Setup

    stevekc wrote:

     

    Below is a picture of an INCORRECT INTERNAL PIEZO CABLE TIE METHOD. This is exactly how my guitar was assembled this past summer 2011 by World Music in Korea when I discovered my new guitar had major tremolo stability problems.

    (details and a video of my original Tremolo Stability problem is here:)

    http://line6.com/support/message/319248#319248

     

    I have since learned this cable tie method is INCORRECT!  This is what my guitar looked like BEFORE my RMA warranty repair at Line 6 :

    (Click on each pic for the full size view!)

    http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/elantric/JTV%20Variax/IMG_3113.jpg

    I just got my '69 a couple of weeks ago and this is exactly how the tremolo and cables are arranged. It works perfectly for me so far. After the strings stretched out, it has kept its tune and worked smoothly. The only complaint I have is that it's a touch sticky when it bottoms out doing dive bombs. I can actually hear and feel a slight friction against the wires. This is a VERY minor nuisance however, considering I rarely use the tremolo like that. For my style of play it works just fine.

     

    So...should I worry? Will I have problems later? I'm not anxious to send it back unless it's absolutely neccessary.

     

    Rich

        • pugdealer Just Startin' 71 posts since
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          Nov 21, 2011 2:20 PM (in response to stevekc)
          Re: JTV-69 Tremolo Setup

          Well, I know how to setup a guitar, I just meant that the tremolo on the jtv seems too unstable, needing constant adjustment and dealing with "collateral" issues like the spring vibration, the cables to the piezos, etc.

           

          I think they should do a T-style jtv, I'm certain it would sell more than the 89, it would be the one for me, definitely!

  • guitar4u Just Startin' 142 posts since
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    Nov 23, 2011 9:07 PM (in response to stevekc)
    Re: JTV-69 Tremolo Setup

    stevekc wrote:

     

    I put heat shrink on the Tremolo Springs - this make a big difference as it silences them from ever making minute vibrations that could be picked up by the piezo saddles  - and create anomalies with alt tunings.  Actually these are the factory springs from my Variax 600 - Line 6 used to always heat shrink the tremolo springs, to dampen out thier vibration!

     

    Thanks for the tip! I also added a bit of thin, black sponge underneath the screws and holding bracket as I noticed that they too were creating a slight sympathetic ring. The vibrato system is completely dead now.

     

    It was serendipitious that the excess heat shrink was a perfect fit for dampening the strings behind the nut

     

    photo.JPG

     

     

     

    Question: In your photo, I noticed the heat shrink tubes look REALLY tight! Doesn't that cause the vibrato to stick? I ended up with size 14-8 which is just small enough to dampen the springs while giving them room to stretch. At first, I thought they were a bit too loose so I wrapped electric tape around the tubes to tighten them a bit and the vibrato started sticking. I suppose yours are shorter though. I cut mine to nearly the length of the spring.

     

    Rich

      • guitar4u Just Startin' 142 posts since
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        Nov 24, 2011 11:21 AM (in response to stevekc)
        Re: JTV-69 Tremolo Setup

        stevekc wrote:

         

        With the Pin type Tremol-No reinstalled in my replacement Variax JTV-69, Im now using two stock springs, and i set up the tremol-no for dive only. what a great guitar!

        Wow, just watched a video on the "Tremol-No". That's nice So, you're saying that with the Tremol-No you don't need the heatshrink tubing anymore? I assume that means that when you switch to alt tunings you'll switch to "hard tail" mode as well? Well, the heatshrink tubing is still useful in that case.

         

        Why do you feel you only need two springs now? Is it just because you like the looser feel?

         

        Thanks again for the tips Steve!
        Rich

  • gurumonkey Just Startin' 78 posts since
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    Feb 21, 2012 9:04 AM (in response to stevekc)
    Re: JTV-69 Tremolo Setup

    I love this thread.  a couple of questions. 

     

    I also have a tremol-no, but i'm nowhere near as confident in all of these modifications/diagnosis as you.  Why did you need the metal shim?  what was happening otherwise?

     

    Has switching to 2 springs changed anything else on the guitar?

     

    And finally, the big dog is this.  I have a 1st generation bridge.  My guitar doesn't have a screw to even thread into (nor does it have threads on the tremolo bar).  it also makes a TON of noise as I move it around (the piezo picking up the movement), and it's a little loose.  Is there anything I can do about that to keep to tight?

  • Rewolf48 Just Startin' 133 posts since
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    Apr 26, 2012 4:45 AM (in response to stevekc)
    Re: JTV-69 Tremolo Setup

    When I first got my Korean JTV-69 the trem had a smooth action, but after a week or so I could feel friction as I moved the trem arm.

     

    So I raised a support ticket to see if Line-6 would send me the white clamp bit so that I could do it myself, or whether I could take it directly to Line-6 UK (which is only 17 miles from where I work) for them to do, and the response I got was this:

     

    Matt,

     

    The Modification of that customer's (Steve Conrad) guitar is NOT a Line 6 authorized factory modification.  The way the guitars are supposed to come from the factory are with zip ties to the bridge. This customer was having multiple problems with the guitar and sent it back to us for warranty work. 

     

    That white clamp in the pictures provided in not a Line 6 part.  It was found in the repair room and used to address this customer's problem with the guitar because it had unusual circumstances preventing it from operating properly.  There is no Line 6 part number as it is not a part of the assembly for the guitar.

     

    Steve Conrad posted his finding for those that would like to attempt the modification themselves if you are having problems with the tremolo, but as this is not a Line 6 approved modification, you run the risk of voiding your warranty if you do so.

     

    Regards,

     

    Line6Hugo

     

    So not help there then - I have since had an idea that I am going to try: I have some Cable Braid Sleeving lying around from my old hand built "snake" (like this http://www.tmbelectronics.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=265&zenid=205aae463b0ad3a4361c7a462e09f600 - not sure that this is the right size though).  I am going to try threading the cables from the trem through it leaving it loose - my theory is that it will eliminate all points where the cables can catch on the body or the pcb and therefore give a smooth action.

     

    I will take photos and post an update to let you know how it goes.

      • Rewolf48 Just Startin' 133 posts since
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        Apr 27, 2012 4:59 AM (in response to stevekc)
        Re: JTV-69 Tremolo Setup

        Mine is August 2011 and has exactly the same layout as yours did when it arrived - including the cable tie with the clamp at the back of the trem block which restricts the downward movement as it hits the back of the cavity in the body - I too would like to see a photo of a 2012 build.

         

        I did quickly try the cable braid sleeving idea, and initial result was a really smooth action as it does prevent the cables catching through the hole in the body or the PCB components, and then after I had put the covers back and played with the trem quite a bit it reverted to a single catching point/resistance (it had 4 or 5 before) - I left the sleeving completely loose so it might have moved; I will look again tonight and I expect that if I tie it on the cables at the plug end it will fix it (or if I attach it to the body somehow).

        • celestmark Just Startin' 5 posts since
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          Jul 31, 2012 6:39 PM (in response to Rewolf48)
          Re: JTV-69 Tremolo Setup

          Appreciate the awesome and painstaking detail of this post!

           

          Yea, I just purchased a 69 last week and it had the same crappy routing of the piezo cables! Well, I returned it as it does have the bad buzzing on the low E and A strings. It also had a strange fizz issue on the alternate tunings that was especially noticable on the acoustic models! Yes, I did flash to the 1.8 software.

           

          I just don't believe it was worth the 1200 I paid... now add the 35 in sending it back!

           

          I'll be holding out for either a RackVax (version 2) and/or a used JTV that will justify adding a new neck later on down the road! In the meantime it's back to the GR-55!

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