Jun 17, 2011 10:50 AM
Ideas for X3 Live BASS Sounds using Dual Tone
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Hi Folks:
Probably nothing new to you, but haven't found a thread as specific.
As you might know, many famous bass players use signal splitters on their equipment to achieve specific sonic combinations.
Even in the studio, many engineers and musicians combine direct signal from the bass with amp + mic signals to get more "body" in the mix.
Looking at the X3 Live dual tone possibilities, it's easy to find oneself experimenting a lot with it, and with some information, you can build a "Dream Rig" out of it.
I'm not saying that the POD would replace real hardware, but with some skill, you can compensate and get very good sounding results.
Say, for getting something similar to a Geddy Lee's live rig, using dual tone you can use the same concept of overdriven thin trebly sound on one tone, and a more natural fat undistorted signal on the other tone. The POD have emulators of almost everything needed to achieve this if you look into many of the sites describing Lee's rig. I.E.: http://www.uberproaudio.com/who-plays-what/94-rush-geddy-lees-bass-gear-rig-and-equipment
So in the X3 there is a stompbox called bass overdrive which is an emulator of the SansAmp preamp circuit. On of the "vocal" preamps is an Avalon emulator, and of the many amps he has used, there are two, the Ampeg and the Gallien-Krueger. Add signal boosters, compression, EQ, 4 microphone choices... Those are the ingredients needed, tweak to taste.
So looking into famous rigs you like, you can get ideas for programming dual tone patches for your X3 and try them on your instrument and your playing style. It's sometimes easier than get all the tone blocks in bypass and start to try every amp and effect in the POD.
For tone freaks, you can even use some "guitar amp" emulations on the bass. I.E.: The Fender bassman for bass has 4 mic choices, but there is the same Bassman for guitar with more mic options, so you can get mid high definition from the guitar part, and combine something bassier for low end like the Eden.
If any of you have ideas of tone combinations that would like to share, would be nice.
Chalo
What I like to do live is to use dual tone to essentially split frequencies, personally I'm always looking for a nice balance between my "low" and my "high" strings, so I'll run them through different amps with different cabinets and EQ accordingly. (If the compressors had variable attack and release then I'd really be in my element.) This gives me a lot of control when dealing with engineers who are just trying to get a sonic boom out of my bass at a gig, it essentially gives me back a lot of control over my FOH sound, ensuring I have as much attack, body or pop when I feel the song needs it....Plus as an engineer myself, one of the decisions an engineer always faces with bass is whether the bass is gonna sit above or below the kick drum, so with the high/low split I take the guess work out of the equation when working with an engineer who doens't know the music.....I tend to have different tones depending on the song I'm playing, for slower songs I like to add just a little bit of a plate reverb to help the bass "sing" at around 2kHz, breaking the myth about never adding reverb to bass...when it comes to distortions I like to work with one completely clean tone and one distorted tone and then balance them myself ensuring that the audience can still make out the notes I'm playing and I'm not just creating a wall of noise....
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