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stumpsout Just Startin' 895 posts since
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Oct 15, 2011 7:39 PM

JTV-69 arrived 13 months to the day, but bad news

I was pleasantly suprised it came. Opened the box at the Long and MacQuade store, quick check looked okay, felt nice for a couple chords. Brought it home.

 

Tried a couple first string pull-offs ala RUSH's "Spirit Of The Radio". OMG Nooooo! The first string is so close to the edge of the fretboard that it goes over the edge *chinkk, chinkk, chinkk* every time!

 

Wow, so close and yet so far.

 

Not sure what to do to fix it, it looks like the strings are perfectly centered over the pickups. I can't keep it as it is

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks

    • Chris_Wohlfahrt Just Startin' 20 posts since
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      Oct 15, 2011 9:05 PM (in response to stumpsout)
      Re: JTV-69 arrived 13 months to the day, but bad news

      Exactly the same deal with me. 

       

      I've been soldiering on with a 300 since 2007 and ordered my JTV69 12 months ago from Long&McQuade in Dartmouth NS.    Finally arrived and I like everything except the string spacing.  The smallest bend or pulloff is a recipe for disappointment.  

       

      A new nut might help but closer spacing at the nut wil not affect the spacing at the bridge which is fixed... and leave you with angled strings an all the intonation headaches that would create. 

       

      James Tyler must be a super accurate guitarist who never bends a high e string more than 1/32 " down......but I'm having a hard time with that.

       

      To my untrained eye the bevel on the treble side of the neck seems greater than the bass side, and robs us of some fret real estate......does it need a refret??? 

  • sparkyERTW Just Startin' 271 posts since
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    Oct 15, 2011 8:46 PM (in response to stumpsout)
    Re: JTV-69 arrived 13 months to the day, but bad news

    Well, I can't say from first-hand experiance as I don't have mine yet (though the fact that you've recieved a black JTV-69 gives me hope, although my order is the apparently "more rare" 3TS), but I see two real options.

     

    1) Put a new neck on it. A few people have already slapped a Warmoth neck on it with pleasing results. Of course, after dropping $1500 on the guitar, being forced to shell out another $250-400 for a new neck feels ridiculous. Which leads to the second option...

     

    2) Return it. You could always place an order for a 59, see if you get along better with its neck.  Either that or grab a first-gen variax for less than half the price. I've had a 500 for over 3 years now and the neck actually isn't that bad. Even if you didn't like it, you could get a killer Warmoth neck and still come out far less than the cost of a Tyler Variax.

     

    Honestly, as the days pass and reports of JTV-69 neck issues roll in (also disappointed that they apparently made the neck thinner; I was really looking forward to a baseball bat), I'm feeling more and more inclined to throw in the towel.

        • Chris_Wohlfahrt Just Startin' 20 posts since
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          Oct 15, 2011 9:16 PM (in response to stumpsout)
          Re: JTV-69 arrived 13 months to the day, but bad news

          Hey Stumpsout.....

           

          I see from your pics that my JTV69 is the same and it seems the nut is biased a bit to the high e side.    I've played it for 8-10 hrs this week and still cant keep it all on the fretboard so I think I'll try to get the nut repositioned .......no way am I gonna drop $$ on a different neck for a $1400 guitar.....

           

          thats crazy talk

            • litesnsirens Iknowathingortwo 649 posts since
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              Oct 15, 2011 11:53 PM (in response to stumpsout)
              Re: JTV-69 arrived 13 months to the day, but bad news

              I'm one of the guys that put a new neck on mine.  At least there is that option with the 69.  I wanted something a little less chunky anyway.  I actually got a neck that is 1/16" wider at the nut than the original neck and the frets are angled better but it still doesn't fix the problem 100%.  I can gig with it though I just have to be a little cautious.   I hate to say it considering the respect I have for James Tyler and the number of great things about this guitar and the bridge, but I feel it's a design flaw not bad workmanship or quality control.  It would really make me happy and I would pay if they made a bridge plate that will retro-fit with the only difference being that the holes at the back for the screws are closer together so as to offer a narrower string spacing.  Considering the issue in fact have the holes spaced to that the saddles are touching, or at least that all you can fit between them is a piece of paper.  I did some measurements and on my strat the neck is 1/16" wider (like my replacement neck) and at the bridge E to E string is 1/16" narrower.   At least with a replacement bridge plate, we (a lot of us ) could just order it and change it ourselves.  And it might be enough for most players and would negate them resorting to putting a new neck on it.   I don't mind that I had to put a new neck on it as I wanted to anyway, I like the feel of a strat neck (modern) and this guitar is so unbelievable in every other regard that I wanted to put a dream neck on it with a real sexy wood etc.  it's the only guitar I take to gigs and rehearsals anymore.

    • Chris_Wohlfahrt Just Startin' 20 posts since
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      Oct 15, 2011 9:25 PM (in response to sparkyERTW)
      Re: JTV-69 arrived 13 months to the day, but bad news

      I hear what your sayin' sparky.......but once you try the JTV69 Strat and LP models you'll want to use gen1 vax for firewood in the colder months.

  • jdolby Just Startin' 80 posts since
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    Oct 18, 2011 6:13 PM (in response to stumpsout)
    Re: JTV-69 arrived 13 months to the day, but bad news

    Stumps,

     

    How tight is the neck pocket?  Is there any play at all?  I have fixed these issues with other guitars by loosening the neck screws and re-positioning the neck.

     

    JD

      • sparkyERTW Just Startin' 271 posts since
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        Oct 19, 2011 10:08 AM (in response to stumpsout)
        Re: JTV-69 arrived 13 months to the day, but bad news

        Well, I got a couple hours of playing in on mine last night.  The high E on mine certainly doesn't have a ton of room, but barring any wide vibrato - which I don't tend to do anyway - I seem to avoid the issue when I play; even pull-offs appeared alright.  I suspect your case is more extreme than mine.

         

        I was actually disappointed somewhat with the neck profile; despite litesnsirens describing it as "chunky", I found it rather average - which sucks because I love baseball bat necks!  Ah well... still trying to decide whether that's worth returning it over.  The models sound better - especially the acoustics, banjo, and 12-strings - and the tuning wheel and rechargeable battery are sweet.

          • stevekc Just Startin' 114 posts since
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            Oct 20, 2011 1:20 AM (in response to stumpsout)
            Re: JTV-69 arrived 13 months to the day, but bad news

            Review this pic

            http://line6.com/support/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/2-320508-65433/240-320/photo+small.JPG

             

            A luthier can fabricate a new nut  from a blank Graphtech TUSQ Nut. The new Nut would have slightly tighter / narrower  string to string spacing "pitch".

             

            This will bring the high E string away from the edge of the fretboard , give you more available fret under the high E for vibratos, and allowing improved ability for hammer on's/ offs on the High E string, without it wanting to always fall off the edge of the fretboard.

             

            IMHO they spaced your nut's string to string spacing too wide for the avaiable fretboard width.

             

            When my JTV-69 comes back from Line6 repiar, I'll be making a new nut for mine too ,as it suffers the identical problem.

             

            You are not alone.

             

            These new summer 2011 batch of JTV-69's are slightly different in many crucial areas  - compared to the first 2010 batch JTV-69s I played.

             

            The good news is I'm talking to Line6 about all of this, and they are listening.

            • solidjiver Just Startin' 56 posts since
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              Oct 20, 2011 1:38 AM (in response to stevekc)
              Re: JTV-69 arrived 13 months to the day, but bad news

              Quote: These new summer 2011 batch of JTV-69's are slightly different in many crucial areas - compared to the first 2010 batch JTV-69s I played.

               

              Do you mean the new batch is better or worse? I hope you mean better, because I recently ordered a JTV-69.

              
              • stevekc Just Startin' 114 posts since
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                Oct 20, 2011 1:47 AM (in response to solidjiver)
                Re: JTV-69 arrived 13 months to the day, but bad news

                I think they are still sorting things out

                http://line6.com/support/thread/72577?tstart=0

                  • Nick_Mattocks Best of the Best 9,065 posts since
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                    Oct 21, 2011 7:26 AM (in response to stumpsout)
                    Re: JTV-69 arrived 13 months to the day, but bad news

                    stumpsout wrote:

                     

                    No one has contacted me, so i can't say that they are listening to me based on that. Good luck with yours!

                     

                    That could just be because your question is no longer flagged on Customer Support's system as unanswered and needing attention (you effectively marked it as answered when you awarded the Correct Answer).  You probably need to re-post the question so Customer Support pick it up and respond, or you could maybe call Line 6 and talk to someone about the issue.

                     

                    From what you've described, your guitar doesn't seem to be quite right, so rather than living with it and being in any way unhappy to the point where you simply can't use the guitar I would advise pursuing it with a) your supplier and b) Line 6.  I own the JTV-59 and the JTV-89 but have played both Korean and US JTV-69s and didn't notice any neck or fretting issues when I did, so looking at the pictures you have posted and reading what you're experiencing with strings slipping off the edge of the neck there would seem to be a problem - and maybe an easily resolved one when it comes to it maybe a local luthier/set-up guy could take a look and offer an opinion on how easy it would be to get it set up so it plays well and suits you.  

                     

                    Most new guitars can benefit from a decent set-up, but mostly an end user can get it near without too much trouble, however your guitar sounds like it might need a bit more than that.

                     

                    Whatever you do, don't be unhappy with your JTV.  If there is something not right with it, you need to get it resolved and your dealer might be the best place to start

                     

                    I hope you get it resolved/

                     

                    Good luck

                     

                    Nick

                      • Nick_Mattocks Best of the Best 9,065 posts since
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                        Oct 22, 2011 5:01 AM (in response to stumpsout)
                        Re: JTV-69 arrived 13 months to the day, but bad news

                        stumpsout wrote:

                         

                        Nick and Mr Arkadin,

                         

                        thanks guys, appreciated. I did take it to a luthier and he strongly suggested another neck. Sorry for the bitching... I'm not in much of a mood to deal with L6 about anything anymore anyway. I'll save my nickels for a new neck and have it installed.

                         

                        No need to worry about being genuinely dissatisfied with something that you've paid good money for if there is a genuine fault and it does sound in your case as if something is genuinely not quite right with the neck on your guitar.

                         

                        I understand after the frustration in waiting for your new guitar for so long   It was a long wait for everyone pretty much.

                         

                        It's obviously your choice regarding a new neck and from what I've seen/heard from the users who have put a different neck on their 69's the results appear to be good so that may ultimately be your best option too, but I think I'd personally still be inclined to get the initial problem resolved by swapping the guitar for a new one with your dealer or by getting Line 6 to sort it out if it's a manufacturing defect and not just a matter of it being personal preference (that's not what I think you're saying).

                         

                        Anyhow, good luck with your new guitar whatever you decide to do.

                         

                        Nick

                  • Mr_Arkadin Expert Line 6 User 2,379 posts since
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                    Oct 21, 2011 8:44 AM (in response to stumpsout)
                    Re: JTV-69 arrived 13 months to the day, but bad news

                    Yes, definitely re-post as a question - Line 6 are not seeing this thread now. I just tried a demo model (001 apparently) and the neck felt fantastic - although after playing a 300 neck I guess it would . Anyway this was an early model and seemed fine, although I have to say I don't play lead or do pull-offs and such these days so may not have noticed what you notice.

                     

                    I think you could/should get a replacement.

            • RichRenken Iknowathingortwo 1,917 posts since
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              Nov 4, 2011 2:21 PM (in response to stevekc)
              Re: JTV-69 arrived 13 months to the day, but bad news

              stevekc wrote:

               

              Review this pic

              http://line6.com/support/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/2-320508-65433/240-320/photo+small.JPG

               

              A luthier can fabricate a new nut  from a blank Graphtech TUSQ Nut. The new Nut would have slightly tighter / narrower  string to string spacing "pitch".

               

              This will bring the high E string away from the edge of the fretboard , give you more available fret under the high E for vibratos, and allowing improved ability for hammer on's/ offs on the High E string, without it wanting to always fall off the edge of the fretboard.

               

              IMHO they spaced your nut's string to string spacing too wide for the avaiable fretboard width.

               

              When my JTV-69 comes back from Line6 repiar, I'll be making a new nut for mine too ,as it suffers the identical problem.

               

              You are not alone.

               

              These new summer 2011 batch of JTV-69's are slightly different in many crucial areas  - compared to the first 2010 batch JTV-69s I played.

               

              The good news is I'm talking to Line6 about all of this, and they are listening.

               

              The issue is not spacing. The issue is the Korean factory and the bevel on the edge of the frets. That is why not everyone, in fact, not a lot of people are having this issue. The string spacing and neck width are exactly where James Tyler wants them. We have already contacted the factory and made sure that they don't bevel the edge of the fret more than a certain degree and to be careful when sanding and polishing the fret to not round that edge over. They build these by hand and sand and polish by hand so on some they go to far an make a nice ramp for the string to fall off of. You can definitely grab the neck and pull it toward you to get the high e away from the edge. Hold the guitar as if you were playing lap steel and just gently pull the neck to the left as you look at the front of the guitar.

              • stevekc Just Startin' 114 posts since
                Feb 7, 2007

                Interesting -

                 

                 

                So will Line 6 refret my JTV-69?

                 

                Because the frets on mine are highly beveled and restrict my ability to bend either the high or low E strings.

                 

                 

                Steve Conrad

                 

                Line6RichRenken wrote:
                The issue is not spacing. The issue is the Korean factory and the bevel on the edge of the frets. That is why not everyone, in fact, not a lot of people are having this issue. The string spacing and neck width are exactly where James Tyler wants them. We have already contacted the factory and made sure that they don't bevel the edge of the fret more than a certain degree and to be careful when sanding and polishing the fret to not round that edge over. They build these by hand and sand and polish by hand so on some they go to far an make a nice ramp for the string to fall off of. You can definitely grab the neck and pull it toward you to get the high e away from the edge. Hold the guitar as if you were playing lap steel and just gently pull the neck to the left as you look at the front of the guitar.

                 

                  • stevekc Just Startin' 114 posts since
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                    Nov 5, 2011 10:16 AM (in response to stumpsout)
                    Re: JTV-69 arrived 13 months to the day, but bad news

                    Find a local guitar tech you can trust ( get a referal)

                     

                    print out these instructions

                    http://line6.com/support/thread/73637

                     

                    and take with your guitar to the tech for a setup.

                          • donfrantz Just Startin' 277 posts since
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                            Nov 11, 2011 8:15 AM (in response to stumpsout)
                            Re: JTV-69 arrived 13 months to the day, but bad news

                            You might have to write a book, but I'm not sure if it would be horror or comedy...hang in there...

              • litesnsirens Iknowathingortwo 649 posts since
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                Nov 29, 2011 6:08 AM (in response to RichRenken)
                Re: JTV-69 arrived 13 months to the day, but bad news

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                stevekc wrote:

                 

                Review this pic

                http://line6.com/support/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/2-320508-65433/240-320/photo+small.JPG

                 

                A luthier can fabricate a new nut  from a blank Graphtech TUSQ Nut. The new Nut would have slightly tighter / narrower  string to string spacing "pitch".

                 

                This will bring the high E string away from the edge of the fretboard , give you more available fret under the high E for vibratos, and allowing improved ability for hammer on's/ offs on the High E string, without it wanting to always fall off the edge of the fretboard.

                 

                IMHO they spaced your nut's string to string spacing too wide for the avaiable fretboard width.

                 

                When my JTV-69 comes back from Line6 repiar, I'll be making a new nut for mine too ,as it suffers the identical problem.

                 

                You are not alone.

                 

                These new summer 2011 batch of JTV-69's are slightly different in many crucial areas  - compared to the first 2010 batch JTV-69s I played.

                 

                The good news is I'm talking to Line6 about all of this, and they are listening.

                 

                The issue is not spacing. The issue is the Korean factory and the bevel on the edge of the frets. That is why not everyone, in fact, not a lot of people are having this issue. The string spacing and neck width are exactly where James Tyler wants them. We have already contacted the factory and made sure that they don't bevel the edge of the fret more than a certain degree and to be careful when sanding and polishing the fret to not round that edge over. They build these by hand and sand and polish by hand so on some they go to far an make a nice ramp for the string to fall off of. You can definitely grab the neck and pull it toward you to get the high e away from the edge. Hold the guitar as if you were playing lap steel and just gently pull the neck to the left as you look at the front of the guitar.

                

                You know I've said it before, I have the greatest respect for James Tyler, there's no doubting he is a genius, but if in fact the spacing is exactly how he wants it then I think he's made a mistake.  It seems to me that he was perhaps going for a more vintage feel to go with the vintage models.  Whatever the case, I can play my strat forever and not have a single string slip but even after swapping out the neck on my JTV it still happens, not as much as with the original neck, but it happens. As I stated earlier my strat is 1/16" wider at the nut and 1/16" narrower string spacing at the bridge.  The necks are the same width by the time you get to the 12th fret... likely a little earlier than that but I only did that measurement.  So there is an overall 1/8" difference of string spacing across the span of the neck that is significant.  Now you can factor in fret shoulders and really get into trouble but even if you have nice steep shoulders like on my new warmoth neck you can still get into trouble because STRINGS ARE SPACED TOO FAR APART FOR THE WIDTH OF THE NECK.  Sorry, didn't mean to yell. it's just that there are so many threads on here about this and so many posts from so many users on all of the threads that it's an obvious problem.  We need some options to customize to our needs.  You can call the guitar spec'd perfect if you want.  I think it is perfect if you just want to strum open chords in first position.  For for those of us that want to expand our horizons beyond that let us order and pay for custom nuts and custom bridge plates with spacings that will bring the strings in from the edge of the guitar.  Please!!!

  • jcdc1967 Just Startin' 12 posts since
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    Oct 22, 2011 6:46 AM (in response to stumpsout)
    Re: JTV-69 arrived 13 months to the day, but bad news

    I am suprised that the lutheir advised to have the neck replaced. I have a 59. Same as you, the lower E was also gliding of the neck while bending. I spotted that the nut was not aligned (same as your picture). It was something like 1/2 mm. Not that much but enough to have that issue. I went to a luthier and replaced the nut by a tusc. Total for new nut + setup = 60 euros.

     

    I have now my JTV59 (a black & a sunburst) for more than 2 months. Besides that nut issue I have nothing to complain about. Even without the Variax technology this really great guitars that has become my main axe. Although the Variax technology does not sound 100% like the original it offers so much prossibilities and flexibilities that it is hard to come back to a single soundingt guitar. (I am using an HD500 through an atomic power amp & planning to get an dt-25). I wish the next generation will feature a vibrato as this is the only thing I am missing on it.

    • donfrantz Just Startin' 277 posts since
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      Oct 22, 2011 8:15 AM (in response to jcdc1967)
      Re: JTV-69 arrived 13 months to the day, but bad news

      Hey Stumps--

       

      You've been a valuable forum member for years--I bet Line6 would want you to be happy--maybe a PM to Rich Renken?

       

      Don

        • Mr_Arkadin Expert Line 6 User 2,379 posts since
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          Oct 23, 2011 8:19 AM (in response to stumpsout)
          Re: JTV-69 arrived 13 months to the day, but bad news

          Seriously stumpsout, I'm sure if you directed a Line 6 employee to this thread they would bend over backwards to help. I understand that often we reach points of not bothering with things after a certain point (this happened to me recently in a non-music scenario).

           

          Even if you decide to do your own thing and change the neck, at least PM Renken and see what Line 6 has to say on the matter - you can always decline any fixes they suggest if it means being without a guitar, but maybe they'll send you a replacement in good faith so you're not JTV-less and you can send the other back. Or they may have some other solution.

      • stevekc Just Startin' 114 posts since
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        Oct 24, 2011 9:18 AM (in response to stumpsout)
        Re: JTV-69 arrived 13 months to the day, but bad news
        the spacing of the bridge seemed wider than the nut spacing.

        stumpsout wrote:

         

        The luthier noticed a weird twist in the neck, as well as the spacing of the bridge seemed wider than the nut spacing. The substituting of the tremolo from the original JTV "U" model to the Variax 600 tremolo model is also quite suprising and disappointing. I figure I better hold on to what I got before they downgrade any other parts

         

         

        I would point out to you and your luthier that EVERY FENDER STRAT EVER MADE has a wider bridge than Nut.  You are welcome to get a ruler and prove me wrong.

  • mike-w Just Startin' 23 posts since
    Mar 30, 2007
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    Nov 16, 2011 10:13 PM (in response to stumpsout)
    Re: JTV-69 arrived 13 months to the day, but bad news

    I've got the same issue.  Saw a Line 6 Demo at the the store and his guitar had the same spacing issues.  I may not be a great player, but I was messing around with a Ricky 12 sound and couldn't get a basic 2nd fret pull-off on a D chord to play right.  I have another guitar coming in tomorrow.  Hope they've fixed this and the noise issues.

    • mike-w Just Startin' 23 posts since
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      Nov 29, 2011 2:54 PM (in response to mike-w)
      Re: JTV-69 arrived 13 months to the day, but bad news

      I've had my replacement JTV-69 for almost a couple of weeks.  Still have hiss issues with the mags on the VDI cable but it's just a little bit better than the original.  Still waiting for a factory update there.

       

      I took my original back and played 2 others at L&M.  One was unplayably WORSE than my original, one was slightly better.  I traded.  It's better on the high E side, but I'm still running off on the low E side.  Not totally happy, but gigging with it much more succesfully.

       

      Big Question: So, after all the great reviews we read and watched while we were waiting for our guitars when Line 6 was passing American JTV's around, why didn't the reviewers report this as an issue?  The guys I saw were certainly proficient players. It appears this wasn't a problem for them.  Applying that conclusion, if this isn't an issue on the American models and there are according to responses by Line 6 personel, only a few of us reporting this as a problem, why don't they replace our defective necks with American necks and be done with it?

      • stevekc Just Startin' 114 posts since
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        Nov 29, 2011 4:21 PM (in response to mike-w)
        Re: JTV-69 arrived 13 months to the day, but bad news

        mike-w wrote:

        why don't they replace our defective necks with American necks and be done with it?

         

        Not going to happen

         

        I asked if i could simply exchange my "fretboard is too narrow"  neck for a wider one, and was told this is flat not possible.

         

        My only option was to swap the whole guitar for a different one.

         

        more here:

         

        http://line6.com/support/thread/74262?tstart=0

        • mike-w Just Startin' 23 posts since
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          Nov 29, 2011 7:28 PM (in response to stevekc)
          Re: JTV-69 arrived 13 months to the day, but bad news

          stevekc wrote:

           

           

          My only option was to swap the whole guitar for a different one.

          Warranty is warranty.  Guess I'll just ride this one out.  Maybe they'll get their production team trained better and resolve the noise issues.  I'll trade mine in in 6 months.

           

          The guys at Long & McQuade are aware of these issues.  Heck, they even lost a sale in the demo room on the worst JTV-69.  A guy was playing it when I arrived.  I walked him through the modelling and he really liked it but agreed, the E string issues made that guitar unacceptable.  He stuck around and we both played all 3 guitars with my X3L.  When he heard the hiss in all 3, he decided the JTV wasn't quite sorted yet and went up the street and bought a Gibson modeller at another store.  (I haven't seen that one yet.)

           

          That afternoon, the guys at L&M called Calabasas to talk to them about these quality issues.  I know they've sent back 3 JTV's so far.  There may be more.

          • markcockerill Just Startin' 246 posts since
            Dec 7, 2007
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            Nov 30, 2011 5:02 AM (in response to mike-w)
            Re: JTV-69 arrived 13 months to the day, but bad news

            I swapped out my neck for a Warmoth virtually the day after it arrived early this year, I think I was the first to do so and I haven't looked back since. It just plain works and I've yet to slip the E string off the side of the neck while playing. A shame that since then the problem still appears to be there for some of you guys. It should not be the case that to resolve a manufacturing/design issue that we have to resort to extreme measures to remedy that which should not be there in the first place.

             

            For me, this is the dream guitar, well worth waiting for and I have never played any guitar for as many hours pro-rata in my entire life. I have been playing since 1973 which I suppose qualifies to make such bold claims about how good this guitar is with a Warmoth compound radius neck. I treat this guitar just like any other, it's a tool to do a job and after initial tweaks to stablise the whammy, set intonation, neck relief, string height etc, I just wipe it with a dry cloth after every gig and poilish it every string change. I was dissappointed when mine arrived and quickly concluded that it was not going to play well with the original neck especially after such a long haul of a build up.

             

            Just a small tip for you guys, if you are thinking of ordering a replacement neck, have a look at getting a compound radius one, you will not go back when you have tried one.

             

            Best regards to all.

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