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grenal1 Just Startin'
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Jan 2, 2012 11:07 AM

Virtual Capo does not work fine on Variax Tyler

Hi

I bought the Variax Tyler for at least one reason : to be able to get an acoustic sound and to be able to

make it sound as if there was a capo on 3rd position ... unfortunately, after many tries to get this result,

following the method on manual (as I can't use workbench , see my other thread) , but there is always

sort of double sound on the 1st string , one right and the other not at all in tone , and I precise that it

is not the sound of the acoustic string on the guitare, as this both string  note is amplified , and I push

the amplifier enough loud not to ear the acoustic not amplified sound of guitar ...

So, at least without Workbench, this "virtual capo method" does not work ... and I doubt it would be

better even if I could make the workbench software working ...

 

grenal1

  • Benni2407 Just Startin'
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    Jan 3, 2012 7:55 AM (in response to grenal1)
    Re: Virtual Capo does not work fine on Variax Tyler

    Hello,

     

    do you use your JTV via 1/4" Jack or via VDI-Cable?

    If you play it with VDI cable in a Line6 POD, you have to chose the right Input at the POD. If not, it will amplify both, the modelled and the magnetic-pickp signal.

     

    Benni

    • grenal1 Just Startin'
      grenal1
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      Jan 5, 2012 2:24 PM (in response to Benni2407)
      Re: Virtual Capo does not work fine on Variax Tyler

      Hello,

      I use 1/4" Jack because I have not POD , but normally it is written in the manual that

      if modelisation mode, if we set the amplifier loud enough, we should not hear the

      magnetic-pickup signal. Moreover, I don't hear that the second note I hear on each

      note of the 1st string is the normal note (meaning without capo), I think it is more

      a not really tuned note ... sort of ghost note, but amplified ...

       

      And you are sure that with the JTV , on acoustic model, with the tuning capo Third position, if it is a VDI-cable and a Line 6 POD, it is really working fine and clear , without ghost note ?

       

      Thanks

      grenal1

      • Benni2407 Just Startin'
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        Jan 6, 2012 10:23 AM (in response to grenal1)
        Re: Virtual Capo does not work fine on Variax Tyler

        If you have the possibility to record your guitar, you should do that. But without a microphone! Maybe using an interface you can directly play your guitar in or a recording out at your amp.

        There have been several threads in this forum reporting about that issue and most of them noticed, that they really hear the natural sound from the strings unamplified as a ghost note.

        I often wonder HOW LOUD you have to play until you cannot hear the original note anymore. Because of that I would recommend to record the signal and check whether the ghost note is still there or not.

         

        Greetz,

        Benni

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    Jan 20, 2012 2:14 AM (in response to grenal1)
    RE: Virtual Capo does not work fine on Variax Tyler

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  • toasterdude Just Startin'
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    Aug 19, 2012 6:35 PM (in response to grenal1)
    Re: Virtual Capo does not work fine on Variax Tyler

    I happen to have my HDPro and JTV next to me so I did some tests. It is a definite bug. It is the not the mag sounds coming through. If you set both left and right to variax and do a dual amp set up, you will get the low E A and D sounding mostly normal. The G, B anD E get progressively worse. Sounds more like the calibration is off by cents rather than half step. The "ghost" notes seem higher in pitch, but if I did a cap up 2 frest on the first 5 strings and only 1 fret on high e. . .it did not correct the problem.

     

    Also with second input set to variax as well as first you could then scroll through all the options. Sounds the same on all, except variax mags. In that case you will obviuosly here the standard tuning strings and it sounds much worse and lower in picth and not higher.

     

    Another test. Do a whole step slide up on the E, A and D strings, sounds ok. Do the same on the B and E and it is warbly as all heck. You get a weird digiatl ramping.

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