Feb 8, 2012 2:37 AM
Just updated my pod: bye X3live, hello, hd500!!! Some doubts...
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Hi everyone!!!
After waiting two months in order to know the new prodcuts to be unveiled at Winter NAMM 2012, I´ve finally decided to renew my rig. First, i just purchased the HD500 which will replace my old and loved X3Live. Up next I´ll be getting a DT25 Combo, just have to wait to make some income first, that thing is quite expensive here in Europe.
Anyhow,I´ll recieve my brand new Pod HD500 tomorrow, and i have some doubts concerning how to hook it to my sad and old Marshall MG30DFX amp...
I´ve heard some comments about hooking the pod through the aux in, meant for CD/MP3. I tried this configuration with the X3Live and never got a good tone, so i always used the Combo Front output mode.
How do you sugest to configure the output of the HD500, through the Aux in or through de imput for the guitar in front of the Amp?
Is there any improvement on how the unit sounds live in front of a combo, when comparing it to previous Pods?
Thanx in advance for your answers, and apologies for any mistake of my rusty english...
Your English is just fine ![]()
If you want to use amp modelling on the POD : normally, it is best to plug the POD directly into the FX Loop (or Aux/MP3 connection in your case). This bypasses the amp's pre-amp. If you still want to use the Pre-amp controls and tones on your MG then you would have to plug the Pod into the front. The MG does not have an FX Loop so the four cable method is not an option for you.
If you want to use the POD for effects only and use the pre-amp on your amplifer then set your output to Studio/Direct and turn the amp model off in your patches. This will give the least colouration of tone.
I think most people find that connecting directly into the Power Amp (or in your case the AUX socket) gives the best possible tone. It is important though that you set the output mode correctly on the POD within the system settings. For you: this would most likely be 'Combo Power Amp' though you should try with 'Stack Power Amp' also.
If you connect into the Aux socket then you would normally want an amp model selected on the HD. If you do not select an amp model then the tone will definitely be dead and lifeless. Try using a Pre-amp model initially rather than a full amp model. These often work better in a combo power amp combination. In some cases though (e.g. AC30, JCM800) the full model may sound better as you get access to other parameters that make a difference (e.g. 'Master')
Try it and come back with any issues you hit.
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Thnx Jim and Antonio.
I will have my Pod HD500 tonight, so I will be able to try the different configurations by myself. I will post my thoughts as soon as I try all the output modes...
Well, after a short wait, my brand new Pod HD500 arrived yesterday.As it came with the latest firmware already installed, just had to plug it and go!!
First of all I found quite a big hiss/hum in the sound, after reading on several posts that the imputs should be set as Imput 1= Guitar Imput 2=Variax in order to reduce hissing and overall noise, I tried that configuraion and the noise was completely gone.
Regarding the output config and the way to conect the unit to my amp, I was pleasantly surprised: however i conect it (only two options: my amp´s guitar in jack or my amp´s aux in for CD/MP3) the HD500 sounds fantastic, but after comparing I believe I will stay with the second, which is strange: this never sounded any good on my X3Live.
Anyhow, the HD500 completely blew me away: what a terrific tones!!!
Well as said by many, the factory presets are not usable, with some exceptions: I loved the U2 tones and some others, including those which show the less FX .
As it was late and didn´t have the time to begin new patches from scratch, I used Edit to send Nick Mattocks´16x4 amp setlist to the unit (which revealed the software is not as user friendly or intuitive as it should: even wanting and trying to send the setlist to USER 1 setlist, I overwrote it on the BEST OF HD 500 presets: is there a way to recover those patches?). THANK YOU SO MUCH NICK!!! Great Job showing all the amps and giving us, the lazy newcomers the ability to avoid this work!!!
Well, i loved each and every amp, except maybe the Engl, I´ll have to tweak it some more. The Divided by 13 is terrific, as well as the Park. But i was really impressed with the Rectifier, can´t wait to throw some Metallica to that amp...
With only an hour and a half of use (the half was used to struggle with EDIT software) this unit made me forget my old X3Live: HD500 sounds so much better, with a clarity and accuracy that surpassed my expectations. I´ll spend the whole weekend trying to dial my first tones: mostly my beloved Pink Floyd tones from my X3Live... What a good weekend this will be!!!!
Sounds like the HD is hitting the right spot ![]()
The factory presets show off the effects well but need work to make them gig-able IMHO. Seems to be the standard for MultiFX in my experience.
A friendly user, Ed_Saxman, posted up the default patches in the thread here. You can recover from these --> http://line6.com/support/thread/74931. Normally to recover the patches from a setlist you would have to reinstall the firmware so this is convenient.
Thanks again Jim!!!! I will reinstall Best of HD500 setlist and give those patches a try, tweak them and most important, investigate how to achive such FX crazyness....
Juan,
As you, I've done lots of research in order to spend lots of money and import a HD500 (I'm from Brazil).
I loved my X3 Live... it was simply THE pedalboard. I just can't say how happy I was with all the sounds I've got on that unit (they took me over 1 year to get them to sound MY way, but when I got the "spot"... I was delighted. But... everyone was writing so many good stuff about the HD500, the "huge" difference between the X3L and the HD500... I just got crazy after reading it all and, as everyone, I wanted to improve my sound (that was just GREAT for me at that time).
I got my HD500 at the end of December 2011. Some things really impressed me in a good/positive way. Others... just didn't. They're completely different units so don't expect improvements in everything. Some things were improved... some... I'd just say that I used to like the way they were.
You like Pink Floyd tones and I'd suggest you to check a discussion that I've started about the Flanger, Chorus and some other FX that I was EXTREMELY disappointed. Everyone, specially TheRealZap, jimsreynolds and phil_m gave us some very useful tips. Here it is: http://line6.com/support/message/353623#353623
The latest firmware has an issue (maybe a feature or maybe a fault) that some effects are stereo. So if you play plugged using the right output (as I'm used to), you won't even hear the FX, or maybe think it sound bad. So you have to use the left output.
I'm shocked about the difference between the X3L and the HD500. I still miss and regret selling my X3L.
So as you've just received it, please don't take my post as a warning or a negative feedback. When tweaking your new HD500, before complaining, getting angry or frustrated... check out the forums to find answers and if what you hear is right. It's just a completely different unit. I still think it's got an amazing potential to be (IMHO) better than the X3L. But so far IMHO it's not better, nor worse than the X3L. Just a different model.
For me, the low gain amps and clean tone amps, wah-wah and the whammy are the highlights. The other things I'm still really disappointed, as I said, it's a unit with lots of potential... and hopefully Line6 will improve them as well and help me forget the X3L.
Oh... about the wah-wah there's a great advice on the forums and also on YouTube from Glenn Delaune which you can read on: http://line6.com/support/message/257655#257655
The wah, for me, has been greatly improved. And using the tips on the discussion above, you won't need an external wah (as I was looking to buy one to use with the POD... I don't won't need!!
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Congratulations for your HD500! Read everything about it on the forums for you to achieve your sounds fast and better than you used with the X3L.
Hi Birro!!
Well, i must say i did experience the same feelings you expressed on your post...
As you, i´ve had the X3Live for a long four year period and really loved it. I keep my patches in the X3Live as a treasure, cause it took me long time to dial those tones, which really sound great. Although i first had the idea of selling the X3Live to make some cash for the DT25 i´m planning to buy, now i think i´ll keep it...
My first experience with the HD500 was WOW... I was blown away by the detail of the amps and the quality of the effects. As you say, the wah has greatly improved.
Anyhow, this weekend i tried to replicate my favourite tones from the X3Live, just by choosing the same amp, same effects and same parameters and realized that some tones, once translated to the HD500 sounded absolutely impressive, same tone, but just better, and some sounded just the other way: a complete disaster.
I believe it will take me long to achieve the level of satisfaction i had with my previous unit, they are just different as you mention, but i´m completely sure i will finally reach a higher grade of "tone happiness" with the HD500. I´ve decided not to keep translating my old patches form the X3Live, but to dial new ones from scratch, and i am absolutely happy with the first results.
It will be along tweaking and working effort in order to get the full "palette" of tones i had on my X3Live, but i´m sure i will have a good time doing so...
Thank you for the links you posted and good luck with your HD500!!!
Hey Juan!
I'm glad you got my point. At first, I've written down ALL the data from ALL my patches from the X3L. What an illusion... hardly they sounded the same. I had to start from nothing. Get a new patch (first of all, change the secondary input from "Same" to other thing like Variax or Aux), then select the amp, then go fx by fx...
Take a good look at the link with the tips and tricks for the wah-wah. They're very important and at high volumes, it really makes the difference.
Good luck with your HD500 for you too! ![]()
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