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DoctorPeu Just Startin'
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Feb 18, 2012 10:41 AM

Wah FX - Thin, Weak Sound?

I purchased an HD500 a couple of days ago.  The quality of the audio is outstanding.  I have tried many solid state and digital guitar devices and couldn't stand any until I tried this POD HD.  I use clean/low distortion settings.  My only complaint so far is that as soon as I switch on any of the Wah Models, the deep and robust audio signal becomes thin and weak.  Pluck the open E/6th string with any Wah on and then off to hear what I mean - loss of bass and quality of sound.  Reducing the mix from 100% to e.g. 50% restores much of the tone but then the Wah effect is lessened.  Is there a means to use the Wah effect and preserve the robust timbre of the signal?

  • hoodcreeper Just Startin'
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    Feb 19, 2012 12:52 PM (in response to DoctorPeu)
    Re: Wah FX - Thin, Weak Sound?

    Bump - I too would like to find a solution to make these wah's a little more usable.  Aggreed - very thin.

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      Feb 19, 2012 1:42 PM (in response to hoodcreeper)
      Re: Wah FX - Thin, Weak Sound?

      I always use the the Throaty Wah with a mix of 60% and it sounds very deep for me....Glenn Dulane did a few videos on the HD500 and the wah is mentioned in one but I'm pretty sure he did what I did, set the mix to 60%...Good luck...

      • DoctorPeu Just Startin'
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        Feb 19, 2012 3:15 PM (in response to holeshot1982)
        Re: Wah FX - Thin, Weak Sound?

        Continuation of Wah FX - Thin Weak Sound


        Attached is a 48,000 kHz mp3 file of recordings in the following order: no Wah, BBE Wah, HD500 Throaty Wah/100% mix, HD500 Throaty Wah/55% mix.


        The setup was:


        7-string Jimmy Foster Basin Street guitar w 2PU’s set to bridge humbucker


        To BBE Wah, Class A Vintage 1967 [set at mid Harmony (frequency)]


        To HD500 (In Order): Dynamics/Noise Gate; Reverb/Spring; BF Double Vib/412 Brit T-75/421 Dyn; Wah/Throaty/Mix 100% or 55%


        My conclusions are: The HD500 Wah at 100% mix is not very usable within a song in going from Wah off to Wah on due to the large drop in volume and timbre.  The BBE Wah and the HD500 Throaty Wah/55% mix sound different but both sound very good.  The Wah in the 55% mix is more subtle but nice! 


        A Wah effect on the HD500 that maintains the characteristics (volume, timbre, frequencies) of the incoming sound would be ideal for me.  To me, the various HD500 Wahs are similar in that they all result in significant loss of volume and tone.


        Is there a means to adjust the volume and EQ of a POD HD Wah effect independently of the rest of the devices in a preset?

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  • jimsreynolds Power User
    jimsreynolds
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    Feb 19, 2012 3:21 PM (in response to DoctorPeu)
    Re: Wah FX - Thin, Weak Sound?

    Another trick is to restrict the pedal range.  Sometimes the range is too wide.   You can control the minimum and maximum parameters either by setting them in the controllers section in HD Edit or hitting the Move button twice on an HD500/Pro.

     

    If you manually move the pedal you can see the value change and get a sense of where the sweet range for the Wah is then fix the range.

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