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van_apthorpe Just Startin'
van_apthorpe
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Feb 21, 2012 3:44 AM

JUNK

Well im gunna keep this short and sweet here goes i had the pod x3live had a problem got it fixed got it home turned it on and it smoked out yep dead as a ****** dodo.I took it back to the shop and they gave me the new HD 500 did a few gigs and guess what problems started to happen it wont let me edit the amp models or effects the wah pedal would lock up and wont shift through the frequencys,the only thing i could do was edit on the computer so i was stuffed couldnt do anything on the fly ****** GREAT!!!!!!!!!Now i cant even use the editor it keeps telling me there is no device connected.Well i have had enough of line6 and there inferior products.Oh yer i had a variaxn it ****** up it run for about 6 weeks and guess what i died yep dead as a door nail yep the shop took it back **** line 6 never again im going back to boss,yep i have got an old ME5 it has done more gigs than i can remember over a 20 period or so and guess what it still works fine like i said **** you line6 im outta here

  • jimsreynolds Power User
    jimsreynolds
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    Feb 21, 2012 4:05 AM (in response to van_apthorpe)
    Re: JUNK

    It looks like asterix key on your keyboard may be sticky too.

     

    It does sound like you have had a bad run of luck on your gear.   Some of it might even be fixable if you feel the urge to come back and ask a few questions.  Seriously though, to have so much gear go bad on you it may be worth asking questions about the power in your home.

  • jasonbogen Just Startin'
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    Feb 21, 2012 3:29 PM (in response to van_apthorpe)
    Re: JUNK

    That's funny,  I have beat the crap out of 3 Variax's an X3 Live and an HD500 for over 500 gigs with many other drunk idiots playing them at my open mic night and have had no issues.  Maybe you are doing something wrong or just a troll.

  • SSstormtrooper Just Startin'
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    Feb 21, 2012 3:54 PM (in response to van_apthorpe)
    Re: JUNK

    BOSS has a new GT100 coming out soon lol

    • stumpsout Just Startin'
      stumpsout
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      Feb 23, 2012 8:16 PM (in response to SSstormtrooper)
      Re: JUNK

      SSstormtrooper wrote:

       

      BOSS has a new GT100 coming out soon lol

      Bingo!

       

      So, class..can you spot the trolling signs?

       

      - one post wonder

       

      - claims he did a 'few' gigs with the Pod HD500, and then tried to figure out how to use it (?)

       

      - claims to be a Line 6 user of multiple products, but chooses 'now' to use the forum

       

      - praises Almighty BOSS as the one true way

       

      - speaks fluent asterick

       

      - failed the audition for The Jerry Springer Show, the producers found his character too unbelievable

       

    • van_apthorpe Just Startin'
      van_apthorpe
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      Mar 1, 2012 3:49 AM (in response to SSstormtrooper)
      Re: JUNK

      hey mate i have a brand new HD500 for sale that was provided as a replacement go figure anyway i would swap for a pair of warm socks guaranteed to work for a set or two will provide minutes of entertainment but hurry wont last like at this price sorry correction i meant to write wont LAST LONG who would have thought they would give me a new 1 oh yer thats right it was faulty

  • DeanDinosaur Iknowathingortwo
    DeanDinosaur
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    Feb 21, 2012 4:11 PM (in response to van_apthorpe)
    Re: JUNK

    For the HD500 you can try a hardware reset and it could fix all your problems.  Any machine that communicates with PC or MACs is likely to need resetting every once in a while. Also if you change your topic and flag your post as a question, many will help you. Many issues can be easily resolved if you ask!

  • meambobbo Iknowathingortwo
    meambobbo
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    Feb 21, 2012 7:18 PM (in response to van_apthorpe)
    Re: JUNK

    **** ******* ***** ****

  • gardner120 Just Startin'
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    Feb 23, 2012 11:43 AM (in response to van_apthorpe)
    Re: JUNK

    I assume you're still fighting the device with the different shapes and matching pieces. *************Just purchased the HD500 and am loving it. It has been awhile (80's stomp effects) so it's been fun playing catch up with the technology. Spending hours with my laptop, HD500 and guitar just trying everything. Posts like this remind me of a ten year old with a broken gameboy.

    • hoodcreeper Just Startin'
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      Feb 23, 2012 12:20 PM (in response to gardner120)
      Re: JUNK

      I don't want to defend the way this guy rants but I do understand to some degree his frustrations.  I for one was a long time Boss guy.  I never really got into that pedal but I ended up buying a X3Live and BAMM I had so many useable tones right away. It was easy for me to get great sounds.  Now here comes the HD500 so I pick one up and after a year of tweaking I still haven't gelled with it like my X3L.  I can appreciate the total flexibility of this unit but I don't have the time or the audio engineering experience to make it work for me.  Still I try and I hang on to the fact that updates may save me but...I think you get the point.  I'm not a spoiled brat with a broken Xbox but I too am a little disappointed with their "leap forward".  I still believe its a lot of device and a good bang for your buck, however I have wasted so much time building and throwing away tones.  It can be frustrating.  

       

      Cheers

      • silverhead Expert Line 6 User
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        Feb 23, 2012 12:25 PM (in response to hoodcreeper)
        Re: JUNK

        Why not try the HD300 or HD400? They are designed to be much simpler, and it's a lot easier to get great tones "out of the box".

        • hoodcreeper Just Startin'
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          Feb 23, 2012 12:41 PM (in response to silverhead)
          Re: JUNK

          I don't downgrade for one main reason  It's that I'm not quite willing to sell unit for a loss and purchase a pedal that may not sound that great either.  My experience has been plagued by buzz/fuzz and general EQ issues. I dont think these problems are inherent to the 500 only.  I may be wrong but I have followed the arguments of people saying the 300/400 sound inherently better and it appears that argument hasn't held any water. 

           

          I know people love the pedal and I figure that it must be operator error so I continue to try. 

           

          Cheers

          • edstar1960 Iknowathingortwo
            edstar1960
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            Feb 23, 2012 1:02 PM (in response to hoodcreeper)
            Re: JUNK

            "Buzz and fuzz and general EQ issues"   ...... have you read the thread "WHAT EVERY HD500 OWNER SHOULD KNOW"   ?  See http://line6.com/support/thread/74045

             

            To summarize - check out what you have got your INPUT 1 and INPUT 2 set to.   Is INPUT 1 set to the HD500 default of GUITAR+AUX+VARIAX and INPUT 2 set to SAME ?

             

            If you are just using a guitar then try setting INPUT 1 to GUITAR and set INPUT 2 to VARIAX (which effectively disables it if you don't have a variax or JTV connected).


            Why do this?  Well it prevents the unit doubling the input signal and over driving the fx and amp models which results in buzz and fizz and muddy sounds.

             

            You only want to set INPUT 2 to SAME if you are actually using a tone with two distinct paths with different fx/amps and then you need to ensure that your input signal is routed to the second path.

             

            Really hope that helps you resolve your sound issues.  All the best.

          • ChrisRT Just Startin'
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            Feb 23, 2012 4:47 PM (in response to hoodcreeper)
            Re: JUNK

            I sold my HD300. I couldnt get any real sounds from it. I just got a Big Muff Pie 4, and its really easy to make it sound much better than the pod. I think there are several issues:

            1) The pod is very cheap for all it tries to achieve. You cant, apparently, expect miracles.

            2) Beyond the usual gain and tone controls, there is more flexibility: sag * bias * biasX * cab * mic * model * 2(pre/post). The parameter space is just enormous; you could spend an age fiddling instead of playing.

             

            Finally I realised it just sounded thin compared to even my solid state Marshall vs. And it sounds really thin compared to my Big Muff.

            If the pod works for your sound, its hugely convenient. If it doesnt, its hugely frustrating. For me it was hugely frustrating.

      • phil_m Expert Line 6 User
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        Feb 23, 2012 12:37 PM (in response to hoodcreeper)
        Re: JUNK

        I guess I'm surprised that you find it easier to get up and going with the X3L than with the HD500. That was thing I noticed first about the HD500, really. It was relatively easy for me to dial in good amp tones, and then it's just a matter of adding effects. My feeling is that if you're spending a lot of time creating and throwing away tones, there might be an easier way to go about it. Once you have a small group of core tones you're really happy with, tweaking and adding things isn't so much of a chore. I just think everything on the HD500 just sounds and reacts better than the X3L, so overall I find the process a lot easier. I guess it also helps that I owned the M13 for a two years before I had the HD500, so I'm very familiar with the effects.

        • jasonbogen Just Startin'
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          Feb 24, 2012 9:36 AM (in response to phil_m)
          Re: JUNK

          I definitely found it easier with the X3L to begin with, though the end results are much better with the HD500.  I had the hardest time figuring out how to "take the blanket" off the tone.  Once I got the tips down that I found here I could easily create patches with all models.  That being said, I think my biggest problem was that I have almost no experience with real amps.  I was a drummer who learned to play guitar.  I had one cheap solid state amp that I never used, then just played acoustic for years then when I went back to electric, I bought the original POD and played electric only to record.  When my acoustic duo turned electric, I bought the X3L to run into the keyboard amp I used as my acoustic amp.  Again, it was very simple, it didn't have the response or authenticity that the HD500 has now, but I didn't know any better. 

           

          The HD500 is meant to mimic the function of the actual amps.  I never had to deal with anything like finding the sweet spot, so that concept was difficult for me.  With the X3L I didn't have to mess around with EQ's and cab mics to "take the blanket" off.  I found the HD500 to be more work in that regard and I was underskilled in that area to figure it out.  That's where this message board came in and the help of people here is what got me over the hump.  I heard great examples of tone, so I knew it was possible.  I just had to figure out what you guys were doing to get it. 

      • jasonbogen Just Startin'
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        Feb 24, 2012 8:55 AM (in response to hoodcreeper)
        Re: JUNK

        I don't want to bash him for his frustration.  It is only his approach that bothered me.  I had a hard time getting the right sounds out of the HD500 when I first got it too.  The X3L was much easier from the start.  The key was learning the tricks and tips I did on this board.  Also, the result was well beyond anything you could get from the X3L. 

         

        Anyway, as for this guy, there are so many people that go out of their way to help others that it rubs me the wrong way when someone comes here and their first post sounds like this.  I also find it funny when people say the pedal doesn't work for them.  I mean there are plenty of people here doing the exact same thing they are trying to do with excellent results.  If you actually want to get those results, read their posts and ask questions.  If you just want to come here and be a whiney b*tch, then you are missing out and not doing yourself any favors.  On top of that you aren't going to get a lot of sympathy and you aren't solving your problem. 

         

        You are being patient despite your frustration.  The key I found here is to start with the basic tips and tricks then find messages that deal with your specific setup.  I go FRFR into a keyboard amp, you may be going into the front of a guitar amp or just having a hard time with tones direct into your computer for recording.  If you can't find the answers you are looking for quickly enough, post a question here with your setup and problem.  People are so helpful and when you hear the examples that some people post, you know the unit is capable. 

         

        I guess my point to the original poster is, if you are going to come here with frustrations at least give the people who spend so much of their own free time helping others enough respect to give them a chance to help before blasting flame balls at the gear.

        • van_apthorpe Just Startin'
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          Feb 29, 2012 12:25 AM (in response to jasonbogen)
          Re: JUNK

          Let me clear some stuff up for you i think the pod sounds great thats wht i bought it i dont have a problem with getting a tone its easy no question my frustration is the reliability i cant program on the fly i cant access the amp models so i cant turn the patch level up or down the master level works globaly not per patch its in the amp section the wah has stopped working and now the usb has stopped working and that was only way i could program so i think im justified to have a ***** if you wont stick your head in the sand well thats fine im just letting everyone know there is a problem.I have been useing these type of  effects units for about 25 years so i know a little bit about them.User erroe i dont think so open your eyes and you might learn something!!!!!!!!!! Cheers The Troll

          • johnpicton Gear Head
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            Feb 29, 2012 2:40 AM (in response to van_apthorpe)
            Re: JUNK

            van_apthorpe wrote:

             

            if you wont stick your head in the sand well thats fine im just letting everyone know there is a problem.I have been useing these type of  effects units for about 25 years so i know a little bit about them.User erroe i dont think so open your eyes and you might learn something!!!!!!!!!! Cheers The Troll

            I think that what you mean is that "you" have a problem (and I mean with your unit - I am really not implying something personal). The implication from your post is that there is a systemic problem with the HD500. I don't agree. As has been stated many times, if you come to a support forum you will see people seeking support so logically you are going to see a lot of people with problems on the forum, that doesn't mean that there is a high proportion of people who have bought the unit that have a problem.

             

            Having said that it really looks like you have had a bad run of problems, and I can genuinely understand your frustration and of course if you feel you have exhausted all of your options (or are just fed up with trying) you have a perfect right to jump ship, and to a degree vent your frustration.

             

            I just don't think to imply that all HDs are inherently faulty and that people who aren't experiencing faulty units just have their "heads in the sand" is either fair or accurate.

             

            For the record I don't classify you as a "Troll" (and I know that has been suggested) granted you have only a few posts, but I do see that you joined the board nearly 2 years ago, if you are a Troll you are a very forward thinking troll ;-) - But it does imply to me that if you joined 2 years ago I assume that was because you have previously purchased Line6 gear and on the whole haven't had a problem (only 4 posts in 2 years and 3 of them related to this thread). Doesn't that make you think that you have just had a run of bad luck with your HD? As I said that is frustrating but a fact of life is that does happen from time to time.

             

            I wish you luck with whatever equipment you end up choosing to go with. In the end it is all about being happy with you equipment.

             

            Good Luck

             

            Regards

             

            John

            • van_apthorpe Just Startin'
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              Feb 29, 2012 6:28 AM (in response to johnpicton)
              Re: JUNK

              Hey Jim im not implying that that all the HD500s have a problem but i think its safe to say that there is a software fault that has raised its head not just with mine but also other units as well.As i said i have spoken to a tech here in OZ and we where systematicly going thru the pod and the HD he had did exactly the same thing.so i think its fair to raise the alarm.And yes you are right i have been on the board for a while and still have other gear that has worked and is working fine but i have hade a really bad run with some gear.I know some people that have had a shot at me over my comments but i think some of the comments on me personaly are unwarrented.if they dont wont to know the truth then thats fine but i think a lot of people are being foolish and precious about there gear,thats to say no one can tell there story without being attacked and to those people i do say you can keep your head in the sand.As for me i am more than a little frustrated about the ongoing problems i have had. Its ok for people to have a go at me but i guess they dont realise is that i do this for a living 4/5 nights a week all year and have done for about 30 years so to asume i dont have a clue is uncalled for.Im sure most of these that have had a shot wouldnt have done any where near the amount of pro playing that i have and futher more owned as many pieces of gear that i have.Anyway as i say i love the sound of the HD500 it is fantastic thats why i own one and yes i know how to operate it  probably better than most.Anyway thanks Jim

              • jasonbogen Just Startin'
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                Feb 29, 2012 6:40 AM (in response to van_apthorpe)
                Re: JUNK

                It's all about your approach.  I explained it to you in my previous message.  There are a bunch of people that spend a ton of their own time to help others with issues.  When you come here calling the equipment junk and start swearing from message #1, it looks like you don't care about finding a solution, you are disrespectful to the people here trying to help, maybe a troll who doesn't even own the equipment or maybe causing your own problems by misusing it.  Understand this, the only impression we have of you is the one you give us with your communication.  I have been on this board for a long time and using Line 6 products for a while.  I had issues with the X3 and my Variax 300 and the people on this board heard about it.  I don't have my head in the sand, I came here for help, figured out when I was doing something wrong or if it was Line 6's fault then tried to respectfully seek a solution.  You can only expect to receive the respect you give.  By the way there are many other people here making their own living with the equipment you call JUNK so keep that in mind when the response you get to your message isn't exactly what you hoped for.

    • van_apthorpe Just Startin'
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      Mar 1, 2012 3:37 AM (in response to gardner120)
      Re: JUNK

      hey mate i dont have a problem with the technology i had the HD up and running in a short amount of time.Ever thing was fine then problems started to happen,first i coulnt access the amp models then the wah packed up and then finally the usb stopped working.Well this is what happened,nit with 1 but three pieces of gear are you ready for this i now have a new HD500 because wait for it it has a fault thats right they gave me a new one so stop being so precious and look and learn instead of trying to bag something you know nothing about Cheers The 10 year old TROLL P.S some of blokes have got to be kidding

  • KozMcCharlie Just Startin'
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    Feb 23, 2012 4:03 PM (in response to van_apthorpe)
    Re: JUNK

    What do Chinese boats have to do with operating a guitar modeler?

  • bverdon Just Startin'
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    Feb 23, 2012 6:36 PM (in response to van_apthorpe)
    Re: JUNK

    Nice 1st post

  • TheRealZap Expert Line 6 User
    TheRealZap
    11,829 posts since
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    Feb 24, 2012 9:02 AM (in response to van_apthorpe)
    Re: JUNK

    why are we still responding about this hit and run?

     

    he was obviously just venting or he'd have a followup post by now....

     

    he didn't really appear to want any help.

    • jasonbogen Just Startin'
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      Feb 24, 2012 9:37 AM (in response to TheRealZap)
      Re: JUNK

      He actually responded a bunch of times then deleted his posts.  Anyway, for me it was originally about myself venting.  Now it is about leaving some comments that will hopefully point any newcomers that see this thread in the right direction for help.

      • TheRealZap Expert Line 6 User
        TheRealZap
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        Feb 24, 2012 10:36 AM (in response to jasonbogen)
        Re: JUNK

        yeah dude.... 100% wasn't a dig at your post... made perfect sense to me...

        was just scrolling through the thread and realized that it was a long conversation that the original poster wasn't participating in... was thinking he doesn't care... why should we!

      • van_apthorpe Just Startin'
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        Feb 29, 2012 6:35 AM (in response to jasonbogen)
        Re: JUNK

        Hey Jas get a grip mate who made you the guardian of the forum anyway get your hand of it and get real fair suck of the sav anyway time to crack another fosters hahaha yours truly The Troll what ever

        • jasonbogen Just Startin'
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          Feb 29, 2012 6:59 AM (in response to van_apthorpe)
          Re: JUNK

          The guardian of the forum?  This forum has been an invaluable resource to me and countless others.  I just like to do my part to keep it that way.  It has not only helped me use the equipment, but it helped me make the decision to buy much of it.  Every once in a while you would see a message like yours and if it weren't for other "guardians" setting things straight I may not have purchesed the equipment that has made my gig a dream.  Take it as you will, but when others come here doing their research they will see both sides of it and be able to decide for themselves if this is some systemic problem or of you are just a rude, less-than-one-percenter. 

           

          I'm sure you are a great guy who just didn't really think of it that way when you came here to vent.  ;-)  I'll leave it alone now.

    • van_apthorpe Just Startin'
      van_apthorpe
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      Feb 29, 2012 12:27 AM (in response to TheRealZap)
      Re: JUNK

      Well i got some help yep they replaced the unit as the tech has the same fault with the same pedal that they have

  • Line6Hugo Line 6
    Line6Hugo
    6,580 posts since
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    Feb 24, 2012 4:16 PM (in response to van_apthorpe)
    Re: JUNK

    Hello van_apthorpe,

     

    Are you still having problems with the POD HD500?  You have not specified what kind of troubleshooting (if any) you have tried to fix the problem.  Have you tried connecting it to different computers and attempting to re-install the flash memory:

     

    http://line6.com/community/docs/DOC-2057

     

    Please give that a try on a couple of different systems and let us know if you continue to have problems.

     

    Regards,

     

    Line6Hugo

    • van_apthorpe Just Startin'
      van_apthorpe
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      Mar 1, 2012 4:14 AM (in response to Line6Hugo)
      Re: JUNK

      Hey Hugo i have had contact with your conpany via email i contacted Mark Tabbert who passed on my problem on to Anthony Resse who sent me an email explaning how to do a series of tests.I then spoke to one of your distributers who asked if i would mind going through some checks with them.We had 2 HD500s set up and then they were confronted with the same fault.I have had a few issues with other Line6 product 3 infact so i was at the end of tether.As i said Mark Tabbert has a full and detailed list of the problems that i hade encountered.I still use your products and have for quite some time im sure i just had a bad run but 3 items in about 18months was a bit hard to take,thats why i posted my frustration i do this for a living and cant afford to keep having these types of issues.I like the HD i think it sounds great but i am sceptical about the reliability once bitten twice shy,but having said that here i go another new pod Cheers

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