May 23, 2010 5:09 PM
I'm new to Line 6, variax, JTV and posting on groups so hang in thier with me. I only envolve myself in discussions when thier is a particular need, so let me get to the meat of my theory and musing. I saved almost enough for a the new JTV but my problem is the following. Do I want a new JTV or buy a variax 600 and do a transplant? The reason I ask is because there seems to be no updates coming for the the 600. This leads me to my next question is there still going to be support or replacement parts availible for the 600 and older models or is it russian roulette when you buy a variax. If this would be the case what about the new JTV's ? Is there going to upgrades, updates, and replacement parts when new models come out and takes thier place. This JTV model seem to be aimed at professional or as Rich would say the people we missed the first time around. Let's face it if line 6 wants to be a major players in guitars pro players come first. They have to... everything trickles down from there including big name endorsement to sell the model. If you don't play it you can't speak for it. I don't know any big time players talking variax. Do you? Who? I digress. Why spend the money on either if there is no updates or upgrades. The reason I would spend my money with Line 6 is to have the advantages of the variax and it's digital circuitry not to have a traditional guitar. Therefore if the circuit boards fry and I can't replace them half the value of the JTV guitar is gone (all is gone on the variax 600) and my purpose for buying the guitar is zero. What about it Rich - is it one and done for each model, so you always have too buy a new guitar to get the new technology or is there going to be some love for JTV ( korean) buyers where they can get some milage out of this puppy. Another group of questions I have not seen anwsered yet. What is the warrenty for the JTV( Korean) model. How durable is the circuitry? Are the electronic components designed to last years? Can you put a number on that? These are fair question I need anwsers to before I plunk down a grand on a guitar. This is not a guitar that has the shelf life of a traditional guitar if there is no updates or support. If I'm wrong and the JTV's circuitry will last a decade or two then rock on brother. A traditional guitar can last 60 or 70 or more years because there is no digital circuits and replacing parts is feasible. This is a unique guitar with unique circumstance and problems that needs unique resolutions. The most basic is replacement parts that allow owners to sustain thier version of line 6 guitars for many years to come. I contacted line 6 repairman about repairs on a 600 variax to help me decide if I want to buy one for my conversion and this what he said about repair the main board. "Unless the prices change the main PCB cost $80. The pickups are around $10 each and labor on something like that would be around $80. Just so you know Line6 has a horrible parts department and it could take up to three months to get one of those main boards. I have a few of the pickups and a power supply in stock". Rich this is the repair man not me saying this. A good consumer advocate argues for parts for both variax users and upcoming JTV users and makes sure thier on hand. allegedly. A good consumer advocate argues for transplant kits for the people he supports his customers. allegedly. I know you won't because the bean counters see cha- ching in complete guitars not transplant kits. allegedly but more likely fact? If your a good consumer you advocate for this if not not your a company stooge playing the part of a consumer advocate. allegedly. It's like - a- the consumers pay your salary directly... no line 6 does? allegedy. I love technology but there has to be follow through. Rich you said it yourself you won't de-value your companies technology no more. Then don't. Give me the hard cold facts about value by anwsering the questions I asked above. all of them. Tell me that value of the circuitry will last and you will stand behind the JTV (korean) after the warrenty is gone with support and parts. I won't de-value my grand plus to pay for it if you ( line 6) ain't got my back. You want my money and I want to give it to you. I'm a value man. I want sustance not crap with product and information. Remember line 6 won't devalue it's products no more. If there is a warrenty, support and parts to be had for years to come after the warrenty we can deal. Otherwise there is a Carvin 7 string model with my name on it. I want to be a Line 6 man. Don't let me down. Don't leave me hanging. Ya, I'm baiting you a bit. allegedly I'm a little harsh. This is a fact. $1,100.00 to $1,200.00 on the line you per each ride bet your sweet %@#. It better last till it's fossilized. I'm exaggeration a little. This is also a fact. it's just buisness baby. Facts just the facts. We all have to face the facts. Allegedly. I know you work hard but this is a America. Everybody wants it better fast and for longer when money on the table. If you boil it down I'm looking for quality control and duribility. You should get that for A thousand bucks Right? Or Am I living in the wrong part of town?