Sweet. Now I just wish Line 6 would a JTV for us Southpaws.....

I would love to hear a comparison of the the JTV and your guitar mic'ed instead of piezo'ed

You're right - there are many things that get in the way of making a true apples-to-apples comparison. I can't recall where my JTV tone knob was but as you point out it makes a difference. Even the fact that the strings on my two guitars were not brand new can make a big difference. They're not very old in the recording, but still it will make a difference. Also, I expect there's a difference due to the modeled guitar having Brazilian rosewood and my Martin having Indian rosewood; and if, in fact, that actually does make a difference then that's a testament to the quality of the modeling right there!

I recognize that it's not an exact comparison between two identical things, and it isn't meant to be.

My point was just to make an out-of-the-box comparison of at least the same basic models using the same processing (the HD500 preset).  The real point for me is:

- can the acoustic models in the JTV come very close to 'the real thing'?

- which sound do I prefer (again, without any tweaking)?

- if I prefer the real thing, is the difference worth the hassle (and risk) of bringing my Martin along to a live gig? After all, it's a $2000 piece of equipment if anything were to happen.

The answers for me are, respectively, yes, JTV, and no.

My Martin will still come with me for relaxing weekends and campfires, though.

Thanks for doing this silverhead!

IMO, it might be worth renaming your files as which instrument they are, as I think people (or just me) might be getting confused about which one's which, particularly since they aren't listed in order on the forum here.

zeddd escribió:

Wow. Are you serious? I am surprised to hear you saying that. In my opinion there is so much more depth in the sound of your real acoustic (and that is with a Fishman pickup). It would be significantly more fantastic if you miced it. For me, the JTV sample sounds exactly like what it is--a piezo driven acoustic emulation.

 

I can't argue that it would be easier to take the JTV to a gig and that it could serve that purpose well, but I am surprised to hear that you actually prefer the recorded sound of a JTV. Interesting.

Well friend, the depth as you describe (which is true!!!) could be enhanced in the JTV by EQ'ing the tone and maybe with the aid of the new preamp model added in the HD 500. Having said that, if the Silverhead's fishman pickups have an onboard preamp (which I do not know), you can also have a reason for which the great depth sound comes out (and of course it is a Martin guitar!!!).

I understand Silverhead point of view. But it is very difficult to have a conclusion with this kind of comparison. I mean, for the sake of the Silverhead purpose (please do not get me wrong Silverhead, it is just a recomendation from my own), I would record both sounds without any kind of processing (with an empty patch in the POD HD 500). It is very common that some patches go better with a particular guitar, while if using another guitar they do not sound as good.

Best Regards,

Daf

No problem, Daf.

I'm not planning for this to be an ongoing experiment. ... and I'm not going to put much more time or effort into it (see last post, which is a maybe - and not until next week). It's not intended to be anything but my own fooling around.

Anyone can make of it whatever they wish - conclude something or conclude nothing. I'm not trying to persuade anybody about anything.

Actually, the most significant conclusion I have made from this exercise is that I need to improve my Reaper skills - certainly rendering and perhaps recording levels too.

I tweaked and tweaked and tweaked some more, tried making new patches in my pod hd500, but found I really just prefer the old acoustic models, due to the inherent 'room' sound in the new ones.

Ended up rolling back to 1.71.