I agree for the electric 12 strings, but the acoustic ones sound pretty good to me.  The electric 12 strings though IMO need more help than just retuning the octave strings, with all extra DSP power of the JTV's I was really expecting better for the 12 string models.  Personally I don't want to use Workbench to adjust the 12 strings, they should be done properly to begin with and considering how many have complained about them I'm surprised they didn't adjust them for v1.8.

Dan

Boom was not really an issue for me before. The tone knob was effective for me in tweaking the old dread model sufficiently, and I would use a combination of an eq and tube compressor in the HD500 for most patches. Body is one thing, a distant sound is another. A roomy sound is fine for solo fingerpicking guitar or strumming when you dont need to be outfront in a mix, but its now too distant to cut through for other uses. Its a matter of just hampering usefulness. You can have 'body' without it sounding like the virtual microphone is farther away from the soundhole. I think that the new models are very good for certain uses (rhythmic strumming, solo guitar fingerstyle) but I would really like the option to also have the old models loaded in as well. Right now ive done a rollback, which means I cant use any of the other new control functions (not the end of the world, but I dont want to forever be locked out of future updates either).

I haven't done any recording yet with v1.8 acoustics, but I do kind of wonder if some of the models are going to sound small in a mix for lack of a better word.  With the previous models you could always roll off bottom end and notch boominess out, but you can't put back what isn't there to begin with in the case of the new models.  I do still think they sound much more realistic though than the previous models, just that they sound like they've already been eq'd to the point it may be difficult to get them to stand out in a mix. 

Guess just have to wait and see how they sound when I start recording and mixing.

Dan

Thanks Dan , was thinking there might be something wrong 

with the guitar as Iv just got it. That's a relief. Thanks again Dan

I will sleep tonight.

I hear you but who's to say what the right overall setting is for the 12 string models.  They probably set it up a little over the top so that if someone picks up a guitar in the store and tries the 12 strings it will jump out at them.  It does take a little mucking around before you realize that it's a bit much for actual play.  I would imagine that we would all set it up slightly differently to meet our needs and tastes and some people may even like it as is.  We're all different.  Heck some people even like the 1.71 acoustic models better over all so anything is possible.  I know it's a pain to go into workbench and muck around but I'm glad the option is there.  I spent about 10 minutes on it last night and got both the Guild and the D28 12 string models sounding just the way I like them.

Sure... I'll hook everything back up later today and put my settings on here. As with all the acoustic models, I'm looking for something that I can pick or strum and it still sounds good.  I've been spending a fair bit of time with the HD500 to try to get some settings that will do that for me but even when I got it for the 6 string models the 12 string models needed to be tamed a bit.  I find they were just detuned a little to much which is OK for picking but just out of control for strumming.

Hey Guys, I just wanted to report back a bit of a finding on here.  A lot of us tend to put our input sources on "Same" when using JTV with an HD500.  Most of my patches were defaulted like that.  I decided to try for the acoustic to setting it to "Mic" or "Aux" anything so that the input source isn't getting doubled up.  It cuts the volume a bit because the input source isn't double but it sure tames the sound down for me it was night and day.  I thought the acoustic models sounded good, old or new this is a huge improvement.  If you haven't bothered to notice or check it's worth a shot. 

Well there's a number of possibilities, but that's the HD500 for you :)

If you arent running in stereo, simply go to the mixer on those patches and pan both sides to centre.

If you are running stereo, it'll be harder for me to figure out without seeing the signal path.