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EndStop Just Startin' 2 posts since
Mar 2, 2008
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Sep 22, 2009 10:16 AM

Wireless In Ear Monitor System - Will Line 6 Be Producing One?

Hi,

 

From all I have read so far about the reliability and audio quality of the Relay G30 system, it sounds like ideal technology for a digital wireless In Ear Monitoring solution. Maybe even combined with a guitar / bass transmitter in one neat tidy pack?

 

Do Line 6 have plans for such a solution?

 

Also, can you please tell me what is the latency for the G30 Relay system?

 

Many Thanks.

  • dboomer Line 6 Support 1,997 posts since
    Oct 13, 2008

    Best I can say is we're always looking at providing solutions

     

    The latency of a G30 is just under 4ms.

    • rhavin Just Startin' 5 posts since
      Mar 24, 2007
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      Oct 13, 2010 4:48 PM (in response to dboomer)
      Re: Wireless In Ear Monitor System - Make Them 3CH!

      The best monitoring system i can figure out, but cant buy, wold make the following posible:

       

      We have a 18-aux-channel stage mixer, so everyone gets its own monitor mix. But i also want to know what the audience hears and so the current solution is that everyone has his mix on the left ear and the PA-Master on the right. The balance pot on the hippack lets you fade betwen those extrema. But its not perfect. Perfect would be a sender (none ever produced as far as i know) that has a L, R and Aux input and transmits all three channels. The receiver should now allow you to fade between L/R <-> L+A/R+A <-> A/A.

       

      Sounds great? Please, make it so!

       

      (!!!)

       

      ~.rhavin;)

       

       

       

      [I just post this again as a question so 'the tech support gets alerted']

      • Nick_Mattocks Best of the Best 9,065 posts since
        Mar 26, 2007
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        Jun 24, 2011 4:18 AM (in response to rhavin)
        Re: Wireless In Ear Monitor System - Make Them 3CH!

        rhavin wrote:

         

        The best monitoring system i can figure out, but cant buy, wold make the following posible:

         

        We have a 18-aux-channel stage mixer, so everyone gets its own monitor mix. But i also want to know what the audience hears and so the current solution is that everyone has his mix on the left ear and the PA-Master on the right. The balance pot on the hippack lets you fade betwen those extrema. But its not perfect. Perfect would be a sender (none ever produced as far as i know) that has a L, R and Aux input and transmits all three channels. The receiver should now allow you to fade between L/R <-> L+A/R+A <-> A/A.

         

        Sounds great? Please, make it so!

         

        (!!!)

         

        ~.rhavin;)

         

         

         

        [I just post this again as a question so 'the tech support gets alerted']

         

        I like this three channel idea too.  It would definitely be something on my personal wish list

         

        Nick

      • kwood Just Startin' 20 posts since
        Apr 19, 2007
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        Jun 24, 2011 6:15 AM (in response to rhavin)
        Re: Wireless In Ear Monitor System - Make Them 3CH!

        The best monitoring system i can figure out, but cant buy, wold make the following posible:

         

        We  have a 18-aux-channel stage mixer, so everyone gets its own monitor  mix. But i also want to know what the audience hears and so the current  solution is that everyone has his mix on the left ear and the PA-Master  on the right. The balance pot on the hippack lets you fade betwen those  extrema. But its not perfect. Perfect would be a sender (none ever  produced as far as i know) that has a L, R and Aux input and transmits  all three channels. The receiver should now allow you to fade between  L/R <-> L+A/R+A <-> A/A.

         

        Sounds great? Please, make it so!

         

        (!!!)

         

        ~.rhavin;)

         

         

         

        [I just post this again as a question so 'the tech support gets alerted']

         

         

         

         

         

         

        I hate to break your heart about your idea but there is a company that has already done this

        they are called lectrosonics

        they are the top of the line wireless products manufacturer

        their equipment is top notch

  • wonderjosh Just Startin' 1 posts since
    Mar 7, 2009

    Make them. Do it! Do it! Do it! You already have most of the R&D done with the Relay series anyway.

     

    Price them like you have priced the new Relay series guitar systems. I will buy one... probably three.

     

    There are only a handful of in ear systems on the market that I would consider even remotely affordable, and those systems suffer from the same compression/companding issues as RF guitar wireless.

     

    From my research and conversations with fellow musicians, I have come to the conclusion that the cost prohibitive nature of most of the in ear systems on the market masks the actual demand for these systems that actually exists.

  • mikey12345 Just Startin' 1 posts since
    Jun 10, 2007

    Go ahead guys, Make My Day - make those wireless in ear monitor systems.  With the way you price your gear you will knock the other systems over.  Bring on the Line6 digital wireless in ear solution!!!

  • ChaosNone Just Startin' 55 posts since
    Sep 4, 2008

    Winning!  Please create this no brainer solution.  There is such a demand for this.  I play in church, and there are so many worship players using Aviom systems now, and so many want to go wireless.  They can go wireless with the instruments and vocals super easy now (thanks Relay!!!), but then are tethered because of the in ears.  Please make this happen, and you will own the market.  I have money on standby as do some of my fellow musicians once this comes available!!!

     

    Muf

  • kwood Just Startin' 20 posts since
    Apr 19, 2007

    i would buy four in ear monitor units

     

    please put me on the list for testing prototypes

    i use sennheiser IEM systems multiple times throughout the week

    i would love to test a line6 product against the sennheiser

  • inmazer Just Startin' 1 posts since
    Jul 11, 2007

    I need a system like the Relay but with the added IEM support in the same package. What's the point of being wireless on the guitar if you still need that cable for the IEM?? Can anyone from Line6 respond with info about if you are even considering doing this? There is an obvious market for it and you have the techonology. What's the holdup?

    • dboomer Line 6 Support 1,997 posts since
      Oct 13, 2008

      Can anyone from Line6 respond with info about if you are even considering doing this?

       

      We are always looking forward to provide new solutions .. in lots of areas.

       

      What's the holdup?

       

      Who says there is a holdup?  Invention of new things just takes a long time.  It can only happen as fast as it can happen.

      • dmytro_ua Just Startin' 2 posts since
        Jul 19, 2009

        Really wainting for a such device!!!
        It whould be a nice pair to each G50 that my musicians use on stage

      • ofempires Just Startin' 2 posts since
        Apr 5, 2012

        I say there must be some holdup. Patents, maybe? I dunno.

         

        You guys tore into the wireless instrument market like it was nothing. There's no "inventing" to do. You just have to figure out how to make an IEM that does what everyone elses' does at a price point that pisses shure's shareholders off, royally.

         

        I'd be tremendously surpised if you guys stumbled across whatever "manufacturing magic" that allowed you to drop the price-point of the instrument wirelesses, and didn't start working on IEM's till now. That doesn't sound like the strategy of a company w/ Line 6-like status.

         

        Naturally, when you respond so vaguely without mentioning that you risk your job if you tell us the info we seek, it tends to rattle those of us who stand to spend $1500 for PSM 900's if you don't "invent" something soon.

    • sdevino Product Dev 71 posts since
      Jul 10, 43306

      Just to add to what dboomer has already said, You should at least know that we are reading your posts and suggestions.

       

      Steve Devino

       

      Wireless Product Manager

      • ofempires Just Startin' 2 posts since
        Apr 5, 2012

        Thank you for that, sir.

         

        Your instrument wireless systems have the sound of systems 4x the price. Clear, dependable signal.

         

        That's exactly what I'd want in an IEM. Clear, dependable signal.

         

        I've heard that a lot of what makes the price of an IEM go up has to do with the amount of "noise" experienced by the user. Yeah, it's more technical than that, whatever. None-the-less, an IEM with clear, dependable signal, and user reviews indicating a comparable noise-level to the sennheiser and shure units everyone wants, but can't afford at a price point similar to your instrument wirelesses - I'd be sold - or rather, your unit would be sold to me, indeed.

         

        Also, I'd make sure there's an option for stereo inputs at least one one of the models.

         

        Thanks

      • KPMajka Just Startin' 1 posts since
        Feb 20, 2011

        Steve and All -

        A lot of us who have used Line 6 or X2 wireless as their first wireless product (and spoiled rotten) REFUSE to go backwards to non-digital wireless for in-ears. We are waiting. We will sing your praises. We understand the cost and are ready. I'm patiently waiting - running a wired set up now. Can't wait to cut the cord with a Line 6 wireless. I'm saving a space in my rack to go along with the POD HD Pro and the Relay G90. 

         

        And please let us plug a lavalier into the belt pack for ambient room noise too - just to be greedy.

         

        Patiently waiting....  refuse to buy another wireless In Ear system till it's as plug and play as the Relay/X2 wireless.

         

        Thanks.

        Kevin

      • ToneBum Just Startin' 18 posts since
        Jan 28, 2010

        I'll add my post because I'd LOVE LOVE LOVE a L6 wireless unit. And I wouldn't need it to be anything fancy either, just a simple, reversed G50 system type deal. PLEASE!!!! Thanks!

      • sfguitarist Just Startin' 1 posts since
        Mar 10, 2013

        I have an idea for wireless in-ear's that no one is doing yet. It's a simple modification but it would be revolutionary...would love to team up with Line 6 to make it happen!

  • Peeler Just Startin' 12 posts since
    Nov 13, 2006

    The prospect IEM Technology from Line 6 literally has me drooling...  I am and have been such a fan for many years now of Line 6 product - the newer wireless technology in the G series is spectacular... 

     

    I have been using Shure IEM systems for many years...  and the are solid... but if Line 6 could bring the digital wireless IEM system to market in a cost effective manner - such as they ahve with the G series - it would be a game - changer!!!

     

    One suggestion - partner with a great company like sensaphonics.com for buds...  after trying many - they are the BEST on the market IMHO!

     

    Cheers.... Peeler (your loyal fan!!!)

  • edoates Just Startin' 7 posts since
    Jul 24, 2010

    Until last year, E-MU made the Pipeline digital transceiver system: each unit could either send or receive, 48kHz digital (an SPDIF input), both ends battery (rechargeable) powered or wall wart. Down side was range and bulk, and headphone volume (using Ultimate Ear UE7's) could be louder. With regular headphones, like AKG-240S, it needed more umph. Maybe that's a limitation on amplifier power with a battery powered device.

     

    I tried them out but by the time I decided maybe we should outfit the band, the product was discontinued. Since it allowed for a broadcast mode, you needed one unit as a transmitter, and one receive for each set of in-ears / or even regular floor monitors.

     

    This would seem to be a natural Relay type product. Given my total happiness with my Relay guitar system, I'd buy one in a heartbeat!

  • OrangeCountyCarl Just Startin' 31 posts since
    Jan 25, 2007

    I have put off buying the Carvin system because I know a Line 6 IEM will be very good. My Relay wireless system is brilliant.....here's another vote for an IEM from Line 6!!!!! 

  • Dorval Just Startin' 3 posts since
    Mar 5, 2009

    And here's another vote for Line 6 IEM !!

     

    Playing guitar without cable certainly looks cool, but it's nothing compared to feedback issues when using wedge monitoring !

    I thought the major part of the work was done with the Relay technology...And a real great thing with the digital tech (vs HF) is that it works worlwide...


    Come on, Line 6 staff !

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