litesnsirens wrote:

 

I can assure you that you aren't the only one who has done that with alternate tunings. LOL (I'm talking about the live mental glitch)

 

Neal, I'm assuming when you say you use workbench to create and store alternate tunings that you mean into the custom banks on the JTV.

-- Nope - I have altered almost every single guitar slot in every bank including thre two Custom banks.  When the original Variax guitars came out, I thought that i'd be stuck with only 10 slots for anything I created.  this is not the case.  Every slot in any bank can be anything you wish to store in that spot.  When the VDI cable is used and a stored patch is recalled in older or new gear - it stores the bank/slot position.  It shows whatever name you've given and in the older Variax, you would see an "F" or a "U" so you would know which banks of guitars you were choosing or recalling from the Vetta or any other pre-POD HD piece of VDI equipped gear.

Unless I'm missing some cool trick it would be nice if we could create custom tunings in workbench and then store them on the alt tune knob some how as if we were doing a virtual capo function on the guitar itself. 

-- You can't store anything from Workbench onto the Alt tuning knob as it stands right now.  However, you can create alternate tunings on the guitar itself and stoe those alternate tunings in any alternate tubning slot except "MODEL" or "STANDARD".  You follow the procedures for creating alternate tunings on-the-fly as demonstrated on the Line 6 Tutorial videos, or in the Advanced JTV Users Guide posted online in the manual section.

I can't believe they haven't got an alt tune page in workbench yet.  Not only would that be easier than going through what you and edstar have gone through (and myself on occasion) but it would be really handy when there is a major JTV update like this last one.  Instead of having to manually put all my custom tunings back on the guitar I could load in the save alt tune bank that I created in workbench with this cool feature that doesn't exist yet.

I'm not sure why you would want to save and recall tunings beyond those on the alternate tuning knob?  Doing that removes temporarily all the alternate tunings available, and it would not give you any guitar models to choose from - just tuning options which you have many on the knob as default, plus with 1.81 functionality - you can create any alternate tuning specifically for any guitar available on the guitar and tune it using the POD HD500 or POD HD PRO Edit software functions to alternately tune every single patch on every single bank of those POD HD units if you wanted or needed to.

I'd prefer two things to have happen  - one of which is being worked on already.

1. Get the new Acoustic models to read, and recall any alternate tunings without the use of "Custom (Force) Tuning" from the POD HD units.  This prevents me from playing my guitar in acoustic mode through any other amp or direct through PA with my alternate tuned patches as I used to be able to do with the JTV 1.71 version.
2. How about this for a suggestion I've already posted in the product feedback section and on my most recent Acoustic model demonstration of the Dream Rig.  Someone in the Dream Rig Group was not able to get his acoustic models to sound clean and undistorted. 

I gave instructions, those didn't work and he asked me if I had or could create a video to demonstrate how the Dream Rig sounds for me.  This gave me the thought that since so very many have complained about the "airiness" of the the new JTV 1.81 Dreadnought, Parlor, and Jumbo guitars in just that one bank. 

Many prefer the drier, more in-your-face, sound of the JTV 1.71 acoustic models in that one Acoustic bank.  but it's now either keep the acoustic guitar sounds many prefer and lose out on the 1.81 other functionality, or deal with the acoustic models just to have the new 1.81 functionality.  I suggested using one of the Custom banks for the older 1.71 acoustic guitar models while keeping the 1.81 acoustic guitar models in the standard acoustic bank as they are now. 

Nothing in the either Custom bank are unique models and I doubt highly anyone would be upset if Line 6 chose to accommodate both groups of acoustic preferences by switching Custom Bank 1 to the older JTV 1.71 Acoustic guitar models that Line 6 already has.  The tech team would only need to change out Custom Bank 1 with the older acoustic guitar models with those currently in Custom Bank 1.  I'm not a tech writer, but I would think that this would be fairly easy to accomplish with a minimum of tech time doing it.  Plus it would also give us acoustic guitar models we already know work with alternate tunings created in Workbench until the JTV 1.81 acoustic tuning problems is resolved.

If anyone is interested in my video demo in two parts - it can be found in the Dream Rig User's group as well as on YouTube at least links.  If you do choose to watch them both together take about 20 mins.  They are very rough and done in one take.  All my performance mistakes are left, because it was just for the purpose of demonstrating the sound I get from my Dream Rig by itself without any other speakers, or amplifiers.  Please do watch both in order to understand my demonstration correctly - thanks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gpJHrGdkEU&list=UUPyEGIOoZ1_Y2sg_OLJ-HJw&index=1&feature=plcp  Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfytZ-2vL9Q&list=UUPyEGIOoZ1_Y2sg_OLJ-HJw&index=2&feature=plcp    Part 2

Take care,

Neal