May 21, 2012 11:55 AM
Compressor/Expander/Limiter necessary with a Line 6 preamp ( Toneport UX2 )?
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I have a Toneport UX2 and trying to determine if I need to purchase a Compressor/Expander/Limiter for my home studio. It looks like the Gearbox software has a Compressor (I think it might be an Upward Compressor, can someone confirm?), a Noise Gate, and Hum Reducer (is this an expander?)
I am using this for guitar, bass, and vocals thru my soundcard's SPDIF input. I'm new to the recording game and on a tight budget, but I want my recordings to sound at least semi-professional. Is this extra piece necessary? If so, I would like to get suggestions on a hardware or software one under $400.
Thanks in advance for taking some time to help out this n00b...
Cheers!
-Justin
You don't need to buy a outboard compressor/limiter/expander,you can do all of those things with software.I suggest you get PodFarm 2.5.,with PF 2.5 you can use all of the effects seperately without having to open a full instance of PF 2.5.
Here are a few links you might want to check out; http://http://varietyofsound.wordpress.com/vst-effects , http://www.audio-mastering-mixing.com/FAQ___Q_A.html , http://www.independentrecording.net/irn/resources/freqchart/main_display.htm , http://www.recordingeq.com/Subscribe/tip/tascam.htm http://www.guitarampmodeling.com/index.php , Checkout the links I listed,you should find answers to some of your questions.What daw(recording software are you using)?
Wow! Thanks for the quick response.... I'll check out the links you mentioned and also look into getting PF 2.5.
I'm using Cubase, but the effects it comes with produce results I would be ashamed to listen to. I'm willing to purchase a good vst compressor/expander/limiter if anyone has suggestions.
Does PF 2.5 come with these effects? Also, are they useful for vocals as well as guitar and bass? Eventually I will need to look into Mastering, but that will be a battle for another day.
It sounds like I need to read the material on some of these links before I keep opening my big mouth with questions. I'll do more research and then check back, but it sounds like I have a good direction to go for now.
PodFarm 2.5 has just about everything you need except a limiter.The Variety of Sound effects border on being professional quality and are free.Check out Waves,they have some bundles that cover everything you need for mixing,that are in your price range.
your recording software might also have things like this...
True,most daw's come with almost everything you need to get started. Here is another link you might want to check out http://www.vstplanet.com/
Ask alot of questions since you're new to recording and I mean alot of questions.Ask here as well as at the forums of whatever recording software you're using.Between your daw and gearbox you should have everything you need.
This is a good resource. There are so many VSTs its hard to know where to start. Alot of freeware as well.
I'm going to make you regret advising me to ask alot of questions... ![]()
Compression: I'm looking at classic compressor for my vocals and guitar right now. Anyone know if its good enough? Seems to have all the controls I need. I think I will be using this for downward compression meaning it will reduce the amplitude of my signal by X ratio once I hit X decibel level to keep from clipping. Anyone have some settings I can use as a starting off point for guitar? Attack and release settings would be the hardest for me to figure out.
I'm also looking at Rough Rider for compression on my rhythm tracks (drums, bass). Again, anyone use this or feel strongly about an alternative?
Do I need to worry about Upward compression? Wouldn't I just turn my volume up if I'm going to play something quiet or does the upward compression keep the noise floor from getting raised?
BTW: Is downward compression pretty much the same as limiting? If so, I won't need to find a seperate limiter.
Last thing for now: I don't see any expanders on this site. Can someone point me to a good one?
Classic compressor is very good.I realy like the Variety of Sound stuff.I suggest,instead of having a different compressor for different tasks,learn one or two comps realy well.You can easily mess up a good mix with too much or incorrectly used compression.There are sections on this http://www.audio-mastering-mixing.com/FAQ___Q_A.html site that talk about compressors,expanders and,limiters,it should help you quite a bit.A copressor with the ratio set above 10:1 is,a limiter.So,if you don't have a limiter,set your compressor's ratio to 10:1 or higher. Check out Groove3,they have some good tutorials on mixing and using effects(vst's),they aren't free but they're worth the $.The same people that made Classic Compressor made a few other effect vst's including a limiter.
Ask all the questions you want.You'll have a hard time learning if you don't.You might want to get the book,Mixing Audio by Roey Izhaki.
Here is another link that is absolutely a must read,especialy for noobs http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=29283 .Its kind of long but,its full of good info.The most important part of producing your own music is,a propper listening environment.
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