Jul 11, 2012 10:52 AM
Midi Controller for Pod HD PRO (Getting more Presets)
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Hello, Currently I'm a HD500 owner but I'm intrigued by getting a Pod HD PRO and a good midi floor board for one specific reason.
I use the pod on more of a patch to patch basis. I don't generally mess with turning the individual fx on and off with presets. I just make a preset for the desired sound. I don't know a whole lot about midi but I was wondering what controller I could get that could allow me to have between 8-12 presets at my feet at a time. I don't know a whole lot about midi but it seems I could do this with some of the following controllers. This does two things. 1) only one foot press to get the desired sound I need and 2) it saves dsp because I don't have to load up my presets with "effects on deck" in case I decide I need them. One of the appeals also of getting a midi setup is being able to integrate other equipment into my setup or if I decide to abandon Line 6 in the future and get a different rack effect I'd already be half way there with already haveing a floorboard.
I'd like one that would keep things in 4x4/3/2 type ratio so I can keep it easier in my head. Also, I see most of these have ports for extra buttons or pedals. so feel free to offer up suggestions on perephirals if it would make it work better.
http://www.voodoolab.com/gcontrolpro.htm (looks like I could only get 8 out of this if I wanted tap tempo and tuner buttons.)
http://fractalaudio.com/p-mfc-101-midi-foot-controller.php Not sure how this one would work since I'm not getting it for an axe fx.
http://www.famcmusic.com/product_lf+Pro+.shtml This one could give me 16 patches at my feet PLUS some extra buttons if I needed them. It looks cool
http://www.rocktron.com/products/controllers/midiraider/ I couldn't find a whole lot on this other than it is a repackaged all access which I'm not sure really is.
So could any of these do this?
Then how would I configure it for having an extra button for tap tempo and the tuner.
Also, can the pod send tuner info to a midi controller? it seems some of these have the ability to accept that and keep it at your feet.
How would I configure an expression pedal and how could I get one that has a toe switch so I don't have to press a button when activating a wah.
How could I control the looper as well?
Also, what are some good resources for learnign abotu midi. When I try to research it I get plunged into the world or keyboards and recording software. (neither of which I really know about) and they never seem to touch on the applications I'm looking for which is just controlling these units with my feet.
I appreciate your help.
Stick the Behringer FC1010 on your list too. Ten direct access pedals and two expression pedals at a pretty reasonable price. You can even mod them http://www.ossandust.be/ !! Can't comment on quality/reliability but I haven't noticed any horror stories.
If you pull down the HD Pro Advanced manual from this site you can checkout appendix C and see what you can and cannot do with MIDI. Essentially, you get to do everything that you would do with an HD500 AFAIK but not much more. You can control the tuner and looper using MIDI CC assigns to pedals on your footboard.
There are some gotchas with the HD Pro around effects toggling in some scenarios, if you select the same patch twice, the HD Pro does not observe the de facto standards around Midi CC toggles (where most units use message 0-63 as off and 64-127 as on), the Pod Pro simply toggles to the opposite state each time you send a Midi Message. This may or may not affect you and may or may not be fixed in future firmware.
I hear what you are saying about MIDI and the resources around it. You are interested in
MIDI PC Messages (program change)
MIDI CC Messages (controller changes)
And probably not much else right now. Google these and take a look at the HD Pro Appendix to get a sense as to how they are used.
Thanks very much.
I pulled the manual and read up on the stuff. That does seem strange about the midi capabilies around the ON and OFF states compared to other modelers. On a positive note though, this shouldn't be a real problem for me as I really only want to control Patch changes (according to the manual) because I'm just wanting to navigate the pod's presets but with perhaps 3 banks at my feet while maintaining a tap tempo switch and tuner.
A question regarding tap tempo. Will it work like normal by just pressing the button that is set to send cc63 or do I need a midi clock (not sure what that is)
I will check out the fcb1010. First and foremost I like the price. I'll have to read up on that. I'm headed off to google now.
I am pretty sure that you should not need a Midi clock. I think that is more about keeping multiple devices in the same time epoch. Cannot say for certain as I have not tried it :-S
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