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songwaters Just Startin'
songwaters
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Oct 23, 2010 1:00 PM

vocoder

what steps should i follow exactly to get vocoder working?

Tags: fx, hd500
  • squarel7 Just Startin'
    squarel7
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    Oct 23, 2010 2:32 PM (in response to songwaters)
    Re: vocoder

    I am also interested in the optimum settings.  I couldn't really find any factory patches that make use of the vocoder.

  • Kneehow UberGuru
    Kneehow
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    Oct 26, 2010 2:34 PM (in response to songwaters)
    RE: vocoder

    Hi,

       

      POD HD500:

       

      1. Start with a "New Tone". Nothing in the signal path.

       

      2. Go to the first "empty" device slot after the amp. By the way, in my test example the Amp is "disabled". Use the #1 knob to select "Filter". Then use #2 knob to select "Vocoder".

       

      3. Without changing any other parameter settings, plug a dynamic microphone into the Mic input. Make sure the gain Trim knob is up high enough to allow the mic signal to pass through. Plug your guitar into the Guitar In jack.

       

      4. Play a note or chord on your guitar and immediately start speaking into the Mic.

       

      The guitar provides the "Carrier" signal. The Mic provides the "Modulator" signal. Hugo and I just spent a good 30 seconds reliving the 1980's with some vocoder/synth moments.

       

      Back to work now.

       

      Regards,

      L6Perry

    • ggoss3 Just Startin'
      ggoss3
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      Oct 26, 2010 3:24 PM (in response to Kneehow)
      Re: RE: vocoder

      is having it after the amp the big secret?  I tried this before and I think it had it first in the signal chain, and i couldn't get it to sound good.

    • mljacobsmeier Just Startin'
      mljacobsmeier
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      Mar 6, 2011 7:46 PM (in response to Kneehow)
      Re: RE: vocoder

      Doing exactly what you described, I can get my somewhat "robotized" voice to come through, but it doesn't seem to respond at all to the chord or note I am playing.  I.e., my (somewhat robotized) voice only comes through when I play my guitar -- as it should -- but the vocoder doesn't seem to be tracking the pitch coming from the guitar at all.

    • mininoyz Just Startin'
      mininoyz
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      Jul 12, 2012 2:49 PM (in response to Kneehow)
      Re: RE: vocoder

      Hi,

      I followed your steps but nothing happens : the vocoder effect simply cuts off the sound when on. I've tried every settings and read every answer on this forum, but the vocoder effect is the only one that doesn't properly work on my hd500 (with all the latest drivers and stuff installed by the monkey).

      Thanks for your help.

      • mininoyz Just Startin'
        mininoyz
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        Jul 12, 2012 3:17 PM (in response to mininoyz)
        Re: RE: vocoder

        Sorry, but the problem has been solved as follow : gain at max ! Mic trim pot, compressor, amp level pretty high and also... I sing louder :lol: The issue is closed for me.

  • StefanMax42 Just Startin'
    StefanMax42
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    Oct 29, 2011 6:31 AM (in response to songwaters)
    Re: vocoder

    Sorry, doesn't work here.

     

    If I follow Line6Perry's steps I get a very low signal of the mic in some funny way altered. But regardless whether I I play the guitar or not, it's the same sound.

     

    Mic and guitar levels are set correctly. If I deactivate the vocoder I have a loud and clear mic and guitar signal.

     

    Next attempt: Inserting a tube compressor before and one after the vocoder and rising the respective out levels on these devices to insane 100% I get the above mentioned "funny" voice signal and something is added when I play the guitar.

     

    I have used real hardware - vocoders before. This is definively not a correct vocoder effect let alone the fact that I have to boost the signal in such an insane form.

     

    Any help?

    • silverhead Expert Line 6 User
      silverhead
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      Oct 29, 2011 7:50 AM (in response to StefanMax42)
      Re: vocoder

      StefanMax42 wrote:

       

      ...

       

      Mic and guitar levels are set correctly. If I deactivate the vocoder I have a loud and clear mic and guitar signal.

      Using the vocoder, the MIC signal is used along with the Guitar input. You should not set Input 2 to MIC, so you actually should not be getting a loud and clear mic signal with the vocoder deactivated; you should not be hearing anything from the MIC.

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