it is not a speculation but now, we, the HD500 user´s are the best example of: "pay more and get less"

We want the same what we are saying always and we are waiting: SLO100

Sorry I know this isn't in the spirit of the main message (as I am not going to whine about delays).

As far as I see it the big difference is / was that the 300/400 users felt hard done by (in my opinion legitimately), as a firmware update for their product had been announced but was longer in coming than they though it should be. They now have their update and lucky for them there were extras as well.

As I see it the fact is that the 300/400/500 ARE different products with different hardware etc. Just because one or two in the range are updated we shouldn't make the assumption that the update is imminent or even coming at all for the others in the range. Correct me if I am wrong but I didn't think Line 6 have actually said anything about an update for the 500 series? Don't mis-understand me I will be more than happy to install the update if and when (and lets be honest it is probably a case of when not if) it arrives. But right now I am happy in the knowledge that the kit I bought a year or so ago can not only do what I bought it to do but actually a great deal more thanks to the previous update.

Seems like Line6 cannot serve both groups of useres at the same time. So it's one behind the other which may take sevaral weeks or months. And because it takes time to respect each hardware they put in all the current information they've got. Let's imagine it took 6 months for the next firmware version which is the time all HD300/400 useres had been waiting. During this time, maybe they already modeled 5 more amps. So why not make them part of the new firmware and let them finish their work before they continue with HD500/pro users? I cannot imagine Line6 are modelling amps just for one kind of unit. I think after the modelling process the algorithms can be applied directly to the higher devices (500/pro/bean) without problem.

And that's why they have no date for HD500/pro users until now. Because they have just finished their work on HD300/400. Now they start with HD500/pro users (with already modeled amps).

Well done that man, your positive input to this thread deserves a big

That's funny, I expect nothing less from a bunch of guitar players...I suppose that concept is hard to understand for some folks that would rather them adhere some sort of idealistic vision of Dilbert...

for one... screw the whole lets be positive about everything... this isnt nazi germany, its the internet... forums are for people with issues, not to all talk about how awesome Line6 is..

and you miss my point... offering 29 amps in the cheapest model you make while only offering 25 in the top end units is idiotic period. As it stands right now and if i were in the market.. there is no way in hell i would buy the 500 or pro... the 300 offers more of what i want. for much less money..

there is only one logical reason... to sell the loads of 300/400 units out in the market.... or unless the profit margins are much higher on the 300/400 (which i doubt greatly)

and my point remains... if anything, those customers shouldnt have to wait so long to get updates they were promised... but they should NEVER get features before your higher end units... thats basic business..

im not hating... like i seem to need to point out every time i post, i am happy with my 500.... but that doesnt mean i have to agree with everything they do