bclarke675 wrote:

 

The 500 has Cab DEPs, that still aren't available in the 300/400, so 500 users can achieve sounds not available to 300/400

Did anyone ever say that those DEP's would be available to the 300/400?  Maybe that's why there are 3 levels of product.  Some of the lower level ones won't get as many features.  Not that Line6 is being "mean" in withholding them, but perhaps there are technical reasons.  There's not as much processing power available on the 300/400 as there is in the 500, bean, and Pro.

Never heard of that before, pretty interesting!!

I love freebees like everyone else. And no - Line 6 does not EVER owe us a freebee upgrade of extras. But I also see Pauls point in putting cart before the horse. The HD500 "should" have more of everything compared to the HD 3/400.

Right now it does not. I am pretty sure this will be fixed for my HD500 Pro and am not worried about the time frame "at this point". Pauls other issues about the "Nazi" statements do have some

validity here as well or at least thats how it comes acrossed, in that most (not all) Experts here have nothing negative EVER to say about how Line 6 does ANYTHING, no matter what or how they do this. Ive beat this dead horse before, and dont expect this to change any more than I will on my thoughts about this...But OTOH maybe Im just able to be more negative because I dont know everything. Im not a so called "expert" here and I dont know that I wanna be if that a requiement is I cant speak what I think, but there may be more to it. I also know Im only seeing my side at times and dont have privy to all the info and headaches that are involved in being short on people and long on updates. I dont know what hoops anyone had to jump over or through to become an Expert, or what knowledge base one has to have, what they cant say, who they know and so on... All that makes a difference too. And this difference is also maybe what makes this place an interesting read ??? We cant all be experts anymore that they can all be fair and unbiased,  or any less bothered about the same things but restrained on what can be said... Thinking out loud here but Im betting Im close.

I mean, if we were all robotically positive about everything that Line 6 ever did, wouldnt that be the most worthless and boring place ever?!?!  So the message of the day is, that we need all of the sour grapes and pickle lickers here... Makes for a better learning experience if nothing else doesnt it?... As always YMMV

My guess is just before Thanksgiving. HD500 users will be absolutely furious. But the update will contain many more goddies than just the new amps in 300/400 2.01 and the users will be absolutely thrilled...

silverhead wrote:

 

Did you just call me a Nazi??

haha... nah

But the truth is the L6 fanboys get a little old, at least for me... I have no vested interest in L6 and brand loyalty is a marketing concept... I bought the HD500 because i liked pod farm.. The second L6 shakes my confidence and there is a better alternative, im out.. simple as that

Now again.. I like my HD500 and im not trying to start some idiotic boycott or threaten lawsuits (ha.. gotta love those).. But this is backwards business they are doing, making excuses for them is pretty funny but to actually start bitching because people dont like it? i have a bunch of 4-letter words for them

they took the effort to change the comparision page to include the fact that the $300 entry-level model has 4 more amp models then the $500 flag-ship model.. and the people that paid the extra money now have to wait simply because they screwed up in delivering 2.0 to the 300/400 users? no company i can recall ever lasted by giving less to people that pay more.

bclarke675 wrote:

 

I made a point of saying I was SATISFIED with what I got

You sure did, and I didn't mean to imply that I was responding specifically to you.  I should have been more clear than that.  There have been complaints from others about the 300/400 not having the DEP's.  I was addressing those.  As you were, I believe.

phil_m wrote:

 

But criticism should be grounded in reality, not just perception. I don't think the fact that the HD500, Bean, and Pro havenn't gotten the extra amp models yet really makes them at all inferior to the 300 and 400. I think it just is matter of Line 6 trying to give a little bonus to the 300 and 400 users.

 

Personally, I think the amount of criticism Line 6 receives surrounding the updates is ridiculous. I don't think any of its major competitors - Boss, Digitech, Vox offer anything near the number or quality of updates to their products that Line 6 offers for its.

im not getting into any of that... its not the point. but what if i do think it makes them inferior? you dont mean to say my opinion isnt valid because it doesnt match yours, do you?

I bought the HD500 partly to get any updates first... nobody ever expected, at any point, that the 300/400 would have more HD amp models then the 500/pro..

im not trying to say they dont deserve it or anything else... simply that its a retarded business move..

you dont give more to the people that paid less... ever, in any business...

now if i thought that as a 500 users, i'd be getting these models within a week... then i wouldnt say anything.. but from experience, im not holding my breath... the simple fact we didnt get them means we arent seeing them anytime soon... or they would have delayed the 2.1 update until it was ready for all to prevent any backlash..

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Hahahahhaahahahahahah  Good One !!!!!!!