Currently Being ModeratedSep 2, 2012 8:42 AM (in response to CajunKev)Re: Why do I need a DT amp if I'm playing through the PA?
"Need." Funny word, huh? I don't know if I can answer your question, but my experience might shed some light.
I have tried several different ways to move air from my HD500. I began with a Marshall AS50R acoustic amp - i figured the fuller range would sound great, and it's meant for acoustics, so the Vax acoustic sounds are beautiful. It's closed back, so I still use this in church or a pit orchestra where I have to keep the volume down. The rock tones left something to be desired, however. I did a few gigs with a floor wedge Behringer monitor up on its side, and while it was plenty loud, the EQ seemed all wrong - too crispy bright. Most gigs I played over the last year with the HD500 were through a Tech 21 Power Engine 60. I was very happy with the tone I got from this setup - each time I played I was happier with the minor tweaks I made to the 500. The issue with the PE was its directionality - if you're off axis, it really doesn't give the same sound. Since I wasn't micing to a PA when playing in bars or outdoor gigs, I was ready to upgrade.
Finally, I just got the DT25 last week, and gigged for the first time this weekend, outdoors, with a 6-piece band. The warmer tubey tone really sounded - and FELT - good. I feel it added to my performance and so did the band. I stuck to the Blackface Double model for the gig, with a screamer, reverb, and delay, building off the HD>DT presets from the 2.0 HD update, but playing at home, all the amp sounds are fuller and the DT25 sounds more "real" and "alive" than the PE60 did. I am very happy with my purchase, especially because I got it for $725 off eBay.
So, like everything in life, it's a trade-off. Get the DT for that sparkly tube tone, or stick with a PA for flexibility and ease of using the acoustic models. Personally, I'm happy with my choice.
Currently Being ModeratedSep 5, 2012 8:35 AM (in response to CajunKev)Re: Why do I need a DT amp if I'm playing through the PA?
A DT50/25 will give you a warm, if you want a distorted, tube driven electric guitar sound on stage AND in the Band Mix which is heared by the audience as well.
Do you know what that is or do you like to have one? ---> It is up to you to answer that question.
For Acoustic sounds, I think you are right: a DT50/25 is normally not the right output system, because an electric guitar amp as the DT50/25 is NOT designed for it. Although there might be some HDXXX-presets which should sound like an acoustic guitar over a DT50/25, I recommend using the FX-Send loop to directly send your signal the a PA-Mixer and back to a stage monitor directly in front of you. Use the NO AMP-Model and place the FX-Send at the very end of your signal chain. You can of course add some FX-effects in front like EQs, modulation effects, etc.
Your price issues confuses me a little, due to the fact that you have bought a JTV89-US version. If I would need to spent a given budget, I would have gone for a JTVXX-Korean version AND a DTXX for monitoring purposes.
Another thing I am just wondering: the HD pro (rack versin - right?) is not ideal for Band / live gigging: How do you want to switch your presets during a song ???
The HDXXX-floorboards are the ones for LIVE/Band-environments to me...
My 2-3 cents ...
All the best, wolbai.
Currently Being ModeratedSep 16, 2012 3:01 PM (in response to wolbai)Re: Why do I need a DT amp if I'm playing through the PA?
Thanks for your comments. Much appreciated.
Wolbai, to answer your questions about the HD Pro. I had other rack mounted gear, but I am controlling the HD Pro with an FBV Shortboard MK II, which works fine.