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rickclay73 Just Startin'
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Jan 25, 2012 7:17 AM

POD HD Master Volume Routing

Hi,

I have just switched from POD 2.0 Pro to Pod HD Pro. One main feature of my old unit was that master volume only controlled output to 1/4" output jacks which I feed to my 4x12 cab. The master changed nothing on the XLR outputs that I run to the mixer in a live situation. I liked that since I could use the Master volume to control my Cab volume without changing anything for the soundman on my XLR outputs. Is it possible to do this with the Pod HD Pro? I hooked up the HD to the PA and my Cabinet last night and noticed that the Master volume now adjusts the volume to the 1/4" AND the XLR outputs.

 

Thanks

  • Nick_Mattocks Best of the Best
    Nick_Mattocks
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    Jan 25, 2012 9:17 AM (in response to rickclay73)
    Re: POD HD Master Volume Routing

    It is possible to take the Master Volume control out of the equation if you connect to a DT-xx amp by L6 Link, but as far as the analogue outputs go, the 1/4" and XLR outputs are tied together.

     

    Nick

    • rickclay73 Just Startin'
      rickclay73
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      Jan 25, 2012 9:51 AM (in response to Nick_Mattocks)
      Re: POD HD Master Volume Routing

      Thanks for the reply. I figured I would get that answer but was hoping I had overlooked something and the outputs were not tied together. i wonder if they are tied together in software or hardware. Would be nice if Line 6 could put out a software patch to be able to configure what outputs you would like the master volume to act upon. I'm a bit dissapointed they have changed this feature from the old POD Pro 2.0. I'm sure soundmen don't want guitar players varying the XLR signal to the PA mixing board.

       

      Rick

      • Nick_Mattocks Best of the Best
        Nick_Mattocks
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        Jan 25, 2012 10:03 AM (in response to rickclay73)
        Re: POD HD Master Volume Routing

        You can of course use the FX Loop positioned near the end of the signal chain and take a PA feed from the FX Send whilst setting the FX Loop mix level to 0% to allow the main signal to pass through to the XLR or 1/4" outputs however the output mode might cause problems with the signal to the PA

         

        Or if your on-stage amp is like the Marshall JVM series where the amp's Master Volume control handles your overall level for personal monitoring, there would be no real need to touch the POD's Master control

         

        Nick

  • Line6Don Line 6 Support
    Line6Don
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    Feb 14, 2012 11:19 AM (in response to rickclay73)
    Re: RE: POD HD Master Volume Routing

    +1 to Nick_Mattocks.

     

    I agree with the suggestion to use an FX loop send to feed the PA, but as he mentioned it might sound kinda strange depending on which output mode you are using. The other way to do is simply use the master volume on your amp to control your on stage amp volume, leave the POD HD master volume at full so it feed a nice signal to the PA.

     

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    • rickclay73 Just Startin'
      rickclay73
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      Feb 15, 2012 11:54 AM (in response to Line6Don)
      Re: RE: POD HD Master Volume Routing

      Thanks for the replies. Yes, it answered my question. Unfortunately, the answer is that the 1/4" and XLR outputs are now tied together.

       

      I have found a way around it, but it's not optimal. I run my POD HR PRO into a poweramp then into a 4x12 cab using the 1/4" outputs then use the XLR's to go straight into the PA system. Right now I have just been soundchecking with my poweramp volume set at 50% that way if I need extra stage volume during the volume during the show, I just increase the volume on my poweramp. Has to be done this way since I can't touch the POD master volume after soundcheck or the soundman would not be happy with me.

       

      Was nice before when with my old POD PRO 2.0 that the master volume only controlled the output of the 1/4" and did nothing to the XLR outputs going to the PA. Would be nice if this feature could be toggled with a future software update as I figure most people are using the XLR outputs the same way I am....if they even use them. Any signal going to the PA.....the soundman wouldn't want you messing with it after getting a good level at soundcheck.

       

      An important one to me and hopefully can be fixed in a future SW update.

      thanks

      • Phoenix Just Startin'
        Phoenix
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        Sep 22, 2012 10:27 PM (in response to rickclay73)
        Re: RE: POD HD Master Volume Routing

        This is the same issue i've been having.

         

        Running 1/4" outputs to power amp then cab, while sending XLR to PA. It means using the power amp level to control onstage sound.

         

        Can anyone verify if this is a software of hardware issue? If software, is there a 'possibility' of having a fixed made if enough demand?

         

         

        I guess the other way around it is to mix both channels to centre, use XLR Left for power amp (mono) and XLR Right for PA (mono). Would this work? Unless one of the two (power amp or PA) needs heaps more volume than the other, the master volume should send an even mix to both. Even a boost/cut in the mixer of that channel?

         

         

         

        Cheers

        • Iknowathingortwo
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          Sep 23, 2012 12:16 AM (in response to Phoenix)
          Re: RE: POD HD Master Volume Routing

          I truly am stumped with this issue that is very obvious real and wide spread.  But honestly, this is not how my POD HD500 unit works and I have the same software 2.02 that everyone else has, but even before the update it worked with the master volume controlling ONLY the 1/4" outputs while nothing happens to the XLR outs if I turn the Master volume control up or down.

           

          If it were software or a special patch I made - I'd share it with everyone, but it's just how the unit functions for me.  I wish I could give more info about the reasons why mine works and not everyone else's.  Sorry everyone - it must be something in my set up that is different than all who have this Master volume control issue.

           

          I just thought of something I do that is NOT common practice by many using the POD HD Units.  I ALWAYS use the Studio /Direct output mode whether L6 linked to my DT amps or just the unit running alone.  Could this be the missing piece to this puzzle?

  • meambobbo Iknowathingortwo
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    Sep 24, 2012 6:09 AM (in response to rickclay73)
    Re: POD HD Master Volume Routing

    you could also try modding your unit.  the D>A converters should feed the signal to the attenuator the MASTER knob controls, then to some small amplifiers (probably different ones for XLR vs 1/4" outputs).  I would trace the wiring of the XLR outputs back to their amps, then trace the amps back to the MASTER attenuator.  Clip the wires from the attenuator to the amps and connect them to the wires in front the attenuator.  I'm probably over-simplifying it, but if you looked at it very carefully and patiently, you should be able to figure it out.  Of course you risk frying your unit and you certainly void your warranty.  Don't blame me if you mess anything up.

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