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fenders74 Just Startin'
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Oct 5, 2012 5:34 AM

POD HD 500, JTV and VDI cable

Hi guys, I'd like to know how engage and disengage the simulated sound on a JTV by HD preset with no push phisically the model knob......

I think that in the Edit sw should be a button in the Variax space that enable and disable the simulated signal, in order to have preset with the model guitar and preset with mags sound. I expected to see the light on knob turno on and off respectively at the patch stored but I can't. Now I'va found a trick, for magnetic sound I change the input state and force to Variax mag (only mag signal out this way) but I think is not correct.

The Variax input source let the signal out for model guitar and also mags, so we have the chance to choose on or off in modeling IMHO.

I've also noticed that when power on the POD with Variax connected and select preset that have a modeled one memorized till we push phisically the knob and light is on the JTV remain only a mag guitar, also the preset has the forced modeled inside. I think is a 'little bug'......Inside the preset should be the 'command' to engage or disengage modeled guitar and we all see by the light on knob....

This is may opinion......let me know what You think about, thanx

  • edstar1960 Iknowathingortwo
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    Oct 5, 2012 5:56 AM (in response to fenders74)
    Re: POD HD 500, JTV and VDI cable

    Hi - what you describe is how the JTV and the HD are designed to work.  You have to manually switch on modelling on the guitar by pushing the model knob and seeing the light illuminate - then you can control via patches on the HD whether you hear just the MODEL sound (Variax) or the MAGS (Variax Mags) or both (Input A - Variax - Input B - Variax Mags).  If you just have Variax selected for a patch then when you turn the modelling off you will just get the mags signal sent through the VDI, but when you switch the modelling on, then you will get just the Model sound.

    It was never designed to have the JTV modelling mode switched on and off from the HD.   Hope that explains it for you.

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      Oct 5, 2012 6:04 AM (in response to edstar1960)
      Re: POD HD 500, JTV and VDI cable

      Yes this explain thanx.....but at this point I think should useful to have what I described above in the next update. I think that the on or off modeling mode is just a 'command' with VDI cable, and if it should be stored in preset I think it should be useful, and could avoid any engaged or disengaged Variax modeling accindetaly while playing

      • edstar1960 Iknowathingortwo
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        Oct 5, 2012 6:25 AM (in response to fenders74)
        Re: POD HD 500, JTV and VDI cable

        You can always make a product enhancement suggestion via the Line6 product feedback form. Can't remember how to find it off the top of my head - but it has been linked to in several threads - but I can't find one to copy the link at the moment. Hopefully someone else will step in and post the product feedback link for you to use.

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      Oct 5, 2012 6:29 AM (in response to edstar1960)
      Re: POD HD 500, JTV and VDI cable

      Eddie & fenders --

       

      Actually, the latest 2.02 firmware of the the HD500 can switch the mags on & off -- it basically "remembers" the state of the mags & models at the time you save the patch to he pedal -- assuming you set the global parameters to do that on the HD500. I do it all the time. I got my HD500 at the beginning of this last summer from GC, so the 2.02 FW was out. I messed with it briefly then upgraded the firmware and noticed the change of behaviour. I have multiple patches set up that make use of that. When I hit one patch, the mags are active, then the other patch, the models -- you can tell by whether the light comes on inside the model selector knob. You can still push the guitar's model knob to toggle the model/mag state at any time, but when you hit the patch on the HD500, it goes to whatever you set the patch for.

       

      Thought you should know that feature is there already...

       

      Dave

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        Oct 5, 2012 6:34 AM (in response to davidb7170)
        Re: POD HD 500, JTV and VDI cable

        I'm sorry but I don't understand...I've setted Variax paraeter by preset in HD. Wich is the configuration you have on your preset?

        thanx

         

        I have the latest FW

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          Oct 5, 2012 6:47 AM (in response to fenders74)
          Re: POD HD 500, JTV and VDI cable

          There's 2 settings -- I'm not near my HD500, so somebody else please jump in here if I mess it up from memory --- There's a global parameter to set for variax control on or off, and a parameter control within the patch settings (each patch) to control the variax or not -- what to set it to. It's on the screen that shows the mixer levels in HD500 Edit software. Anyway when you want a patch to be set for the mags, you need to save the patch with the mags on. If you want the model to be active for the patch, you need to save the patch with the model on. The 500 remembers the actual state of the guitar at the time of the save, and sets that state when the patch is selected.

           

          Dave

          • edstar1960 Iknowathingortwo
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            Oct 5, 2012 7:00 AM (in response to davidb7170)
            Re: POD HD 500, JTV and VDI cable

            Do you need the JTV to be on firmware 1.82?   My JTV is still on 1.71 - perhaps that why I have never noticed this enhancement before.

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              Oct 5, 2012 7:03 AM (in response to edstar1960)
              Re: POD HD 500, JTV and VDI cable

              Ouch......maybe this is the issue...I've downgrad to 1.71 cause best acoustic sound......BINGO!

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                Oct 5, 2012 7:16 AM (in response to fenders74)
                Re: POD HD 500, JTV and VDI cable

                Eddie & fenders --

                 

                I don't know if that's a factor, but for the record, I have my JTV-59 on the latest 1.82 FW. One other thing to note - I always  shut down the HD500 Edit software, disconnect from the PC, and reboot the pedal to make sure it acts right after programming it. When you're on the software, I think it assumes you're editing, and doesn't force stuff. I've heard of people in the forums that use their 500's always hooked to their computers, so don't know if that's also a factor for different folks' experiences. We all tend to assume things based on how we use the gear in our own case....

                 

                On another note -- I actually prefer the new acoustics' sounds now that I have a decent patch for them -- found it on CUSTOMTONE -- called "JTV Acoustic Dre" Try it with the 1.82 FW JTV and the HD500. I was pretty disgusted with my own efforts & the 1.82 FW until I found that one.

                 

                Dave

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                  Oct 5, 2012 7:23 AM (in response to davidb7170)
                  Re: POD HD 500, JTV and VDI cable

                  I just tried it out with my JTV59 - VDI - HD500 - L6Link - DT25 and it does not behave as you describe Dave or as advertised in the 2.02 firmware release notes.  It just remembers the model. If I save a patch whilst model off and just mags then when I go back to it with modelling on, it recalls the Tele 1 model - it does not switch off the modelling and go back to mags. So I guess that means I do need 1.82 on my JTV to get that functionality.

      • edstar1960 Iknowathingortwo
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        Oct 5, 2012 6:36 AM (in response to davidb7170)
        Re: POD HD 500, JTV and VDI cable

        Cool Dave!  Thanks for pointing that out!  I was not aware of that!  

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