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eccofive Just Startin'
eccofive
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Sep 16, 2012 10:33 AM

loaded setup- monitors dead?!

hi there.

i just had a little problem with my m20d today.

after the soundcheck i saved the setup to my m20d. after two hours of playing there was a guitarplayer who came up to the stage as we took a little break to sing and play a little.

so i changed a few settings for him but didnt save them.

as we were back on stage i loaded up the scene i saved when we finished the soundcheck. but the monitor levels were completely down so we had to rearrange the monitoring

while the crowd stared at us. :-D

after the gig, i saved the settings (with the reaarenged monitor settings!!) and loaded up an older setting. worked fine so far. but when i got back to the new setup the monitor levels

where, again, down.

what did i do wrong?! anybody had the same issue?

  • ArneLine6 Line 6 Support
    ArneLine6
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    Sep 16, 2012 5:52 PM (in response to eccofive)
    Re: loaded setup- monitors dead?!

    Hi Eccofive,

     

    When you recall a setup the output levels are always down. We did this because it prevents any accidents. Of course this can be also very undesired. We will give an option to include the output levels in a future firmware update.

    Doing any adjustments in front of an audience is definately not desireable.

  • Dougdrums Just Startin'
    Dougdrums
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    Oct 31, 2012 8:54 PM (in response to eccofive)
    Re: loaded setup- monitors dead?!

    monitor levels being down arent a bad thing, if youre using a different amp at a different level for the monitors it will not be the same.  however, would be good to have an indicator to show where they were at previasly , if possible. 

    • Chrissparky Just Startin'
      Chrissparky
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      Oct 31, 2012 10:47 PM (in response to Dougdrums)
      Re: loaded setup- monitors dead?!

      Just a thought for line 6 software engineers

      Would it not be possible for the SS just to mute the monitor outputs when scenes are recalled. It would only take a couple of seconds to un-mute the monitor outputs but monitor mix would be as previously set.

  • eccofive Just Startin'
    eccofive
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    Nov 12, 2012 7:53 AM (in response to eccofive)
    Re: loaded setup- monitors dead?!

    well...

    we just played 2 gigs where i couldn't use the m20d. we had to do the soundcheck in the morning and played 12 hours later.

    i didn't want the m20d to run the whole time. but if i turned it off, we had to re-adjust the monitors in front of the audience. that's pretty unprofessional!

    so i used our older mixer for these jobs. i'm a little disappointed that i can't use the m20d in those situations. i hope this issue will be

    solved very soon. otherwise i have to sell my m20d because i can't use it the way i want!

    don't get me wrong. i know what the problem is but i think a mixer for 2300€ should handle this!!

    • ArneLine6 Line 6 Support
      ArneLine6
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      Mar 14, 2012
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      Nov 13, 2012 11:02 AM (in response to eccofive)
      Re: loaded setup- monitors dead?!

      This is definately not cool. When we did the recalling of the outputs like this we had in mind that we did not want inexpected feedbacks etc. to occur.

      We are, of course, going to give an option to include output levels or not when recalling setups or scenes.

      Until then: The monitor outs are 4 levels that you could write down. The actual mix is stored, just not the outputs.

       

      Cheers,

      Arne

      • eccofive Just Startin'
        eccofive
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        Dec 6, 2006
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        Nov 14, 2012 8:26 AM (in response to ArneLine6)
        Re: loaded setup- monitors dead?!

        Hey. Thanks for the answer.

        I know that the setup is stored but the first time this problem occured and I raised the monitor outputs, it was definitely not the sound like before the shutdown.

        Maybe I did something wrong or reloaded a wrong preset. Who knows?! :-)

        So I wait for the update.

         

        greetz

         

        Heiko

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