Currently Being ModeratedJun 5, 2012 12:26 PM (in response to Jephys)Re: Best amp to use with POD HD500??
For my 2 cents worth I think the POD models are way too much for a little guitar amp unless it is of the Line 6 design interface type. I would probably loose my mind if I had even more knobs and params to tweak.
I have an uber 100watt tube head BUT I do not use the POD HD500 with it. I built a new rig for the POD and believe it or not it was far less than a typical decent wattage combo amp runs these days.
I also run my rig into my 4x12 cabinet which I already have and love the heavier tone quality. For me single speakers just do not cut it unless just playing blues type or clean stuff. Don't expect a low wattage amp to really be able to deliver the more uber amp models in the POD, part of why they sound like they do is the wattage for the power, punch and headroom .
I run my POD HD500 into a ART SLA-1 power amp, 100watts 8ohms two channel L/R into the split wired 4x12 cab (2-12s" per side).
I also am fond of the BBE Sonic Maximizer units added clarity and punch and I use a new 2 channel line level unit running from the POD main direct/stereo outs into the power amp. (The BBE is not an effect per se' but a phase correction device which should not really be set above a half way level). Anyone hearing the difference on my rigs using the BBE on A/B goes out and gets one as the sound definition and quality is just much better on cleans or uber gain tones.
The BBE simply corrects the normal frequency lag of bass and treble leaving the speaker and reaching the ear at different time displacements and it sounds much more natural, more defined, and the bass less mud and more punch. I love the units and this is my 3rd one. For just $100 bucks it is silly inexpensive and once you hear it used correctly you will like the improved quality.
At any rate for my vote, I would opt for a full range power amp instead of piping into a guitar amp, theory here is why run a massive tweaked out amp model into another amp, just does not sound as good. Trust me on this. Splitting the POD into a 4 way cable method still has the amp in effects having to sound right with the amp allowing you have the tone and EQ compatible, and the other effects and models passing to the amp's loop return only gives you a mono signel for one thing, the great stereo pan and split amp chain features are half the PODs capability. The power amp 2 channel feed allows the straight on POD model to not be colored or effected by bad amp match interactions. If you have a guitar amp you can wire the power amp to the speakers pretty easy and just leave the guitar amp off. If you have twin speakers that is a major cool stereo split or better yet opt for a second speaker cab, the wider you set the spread the cooler the effects.
The great thing about power amps, is that they are just so inexpensive for the quality. It is actually hard to find one with low enough wattage as not to be too much. I find the ART SLA-1 100 watt to be a wonderful power amp which could serve well in any studio monitor application. It has its own silent cooling fan and attenuation knobs which recess into the unit to avoid accidental changes once you set them. I use mine at 50% level and the HD500 roars through that rig and a quality of tone you would not believe was a modeler. If you want to get the tone of a massive Bogner, DualRec, Marshall or ENGL much less perhaps dual amps set split or combined running that into a little shoebox or small amp is just not going to compare.
The ART SLA-1 was like $270, I think, and the BBE $100. I already had the 4x12, and I make my own cables, so the cost of $370 was nominal to give the POD a rig that allows it to function at its full potential. You can find power amps less than that if you look around or if you want to go all out get a tube based power amp Carvin has one for like $500. At any rate I always respond to bad reviews or comments on the HD PODs with simply two facts, it matters what you run it into, and factory settings cannot sound great with every guitar and amp so judging the unit by a canned preset on infinite variable rigs is about like judging a race car in just 1st gear.
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Currently Being ModeratedJun 5, 2012 12:24 PM (in response to Jephys)Re: Best amp to use with POD HD500??
The DT-25 is not "too loud" for home use. It has a low volume mode and if you are only using the 1x12 or 2x12 version you are not pushing a lot of air. The DT amps rule for versatility and sound incredible.
My main suggestion would be to get an amp with an effects loop so you can run the POD into that or use the 4 cable method (4CM). As far as what amp you would use would be completely up to you. Will you ever be playing with a band? If not............
My other suggestion would be to just buy really good headphones or studio monitors. This way you can easily play along with an MP3 player and you can get as loud or soft as you want.
I like using headhpones because I absolutely HATE the acoustic sound of an electric guitar and the amp at the same time. There is that jingling of the strings along with the amp sound and I can't stand it.
I use headphones at home to practice and a DT-50 with a 412 cab at practice but we just switched to going direct to the board (no amps for me or the bass player). I love the DT-50 but not having to bring that to gigs will be awesome and leave us a lot of space on small stages.
Currently Being ModeratedJun 5, 2012 12:52 PM (in response to hollis1003)Re: Best amp to use with POD HD500??
I use my 4x12 with my power amp set at 50% (50watt) and the POD level about 3:00. That is in my sound room and my wife has frequently come in the room to hear it and that is usually the test of something being too loud. If I were to gig up with the band again with that massive drummer's sound I would merely crank the power amp up to full. Not a tremendous volume change but enough power and punch to be heard through the mix of a full heavy band.
I am not out to go deaf and kill my hearing. Having some wattage makes for headroom and dynamic bandwidth without the amp just clipping out at a nominal volume which is not how an ENGL or Bogner sounds.
There is a huge misconception in the guitar world that wattage equates to loudness and gutting the wattage out of an amp lowers the volume, its a bit like removing someone's blood to lower their blood pressure. Little amps have a great clipped out distorted tone and that is a trick that pony does very well.
One might want to consider that tubes are frequently used in high end audiophile stereo systems at a 100watt 4 tube config, not to distort but to be clear and dynamic offering the quality of clean tubes to the sound. Much more to tubes than clipping and distortion. I find the POD when allowed does an amazing job of the mimic of tubes. So much so my up front clean boost, compressor, and overdrive respond in the same manner they do with my tube head.
Wattage relates to loudness in relative factors of 3db to double the watts.
A 100 watt amp at peak is only 3db louder than a 50 watt and so a 100 watt amp is only roughly 10db louder than a 10watt amp at peak.
10bd is perhaps a notable level but not so much a "oh my god that is loud" difference. 3db is not much at all.
Yet the tone compared between the two is dramatic. I also find effects tend to tub out on a small amp not working to their full range and fidelity. But to each his own. Use what appeals to your sense of tone and style.
For me, I enjoy a wide diverse pallet of tones and colors on my guitar rig, sometimes I want a massive clean tone without break up or fuzzy gain unless when and where I want it. For me one of the cool things of the POD is being able to tweak in one of the smaller amps and have that tone, carry with enough watts into the power amp rig that it goes not just clip out. Something the amp itself cannot do. You should hear what I have done with the Dr Z and Div13 models.
In the same manner there is more to tubes than merely distortion. Three things one might consider when pondering guitar amps. Wattage is not really so much about loudness as it is dynamic headroom and bandwidth. Do not expect a small speaker to be able to reproduce much in the way of low end frequencies or a single speaker to have the sonic spread and depth of a twin or better yet a 4x12. If you want to really hear a well designed modeler made to mimic some huge uber gain amps do not expect to hear the full potential and range of power and tone into a small amp.
Currently Being ModeratedJun 6, 2012 6:01 AM (in response to Jephys)Re: Best amp to use with POD HD500??
IMO to get the best out of the models go FRFR (Full Range Flat Response).
I have a couple of Behringer Keyboard amps that I am currently using which work well, but my next purchase will either be a Roland KC880, or a Motion Sound KP200S. The dual amp models sound best when you can separate them in stereo, and the models have been carefully voiced to sound like the original amps. Any guitar amp you try is going to add or subtract from the modeling in one way or another. With the FRFR amps you can use the same set up for an acoustic guitar patched through one of the other inputs, or get a variax.
Currently Being ModeratedJun 6, 2012 5:59 AM (in response to anglepod)Re: Best amp to use with POD HD500??
That's true so long as it is a PA or sound reinforcment power amp like a crown for instance, and you're playing it through a full range or "flat response" cabinet with a woofer and a tweeter. If you use a guitar cabinet, 2 x 12, 4 x 12, 4 x 10, etc. You will no longer get the full flavor of the modeled amp as it was modeled, and with it's corresponding cabinet model.
It could be like plugging the speaker out of a Fender Twin into a Marshall 4 x 12 cabinet, for instance. If that's the sound you want, great but you can't make a 4 x 12 closed back cabinet sound like a 2 x 12 open back even with the best of modeling.
Currently Being ModeratedJun 6, 2012 12:50 PM (in response to MarkCline)Re: Best amp to use with POD HD500??
Yes but the options are what makes the POD more unique than a mere mimic of the amps in question. I tend to more use the uber gain amps which use a 4x12 and there is a dramatic response with the modeler EQ on any cab.
Just because a cab is a 4x12 does not mean it cannot have fairly flat response without artificial coloring (in the range of the guitar spectrum).
My last cabs I used, were loaded with JBL MIs and when pink noised it was nearly flat across the range of the guitar frequency range. My sound engineer brother was quite impressed that a "guitar cab speaker" could be so efficient without dramatic peaks and valleys in the guitar spectrum, they required just a couple moderate EQ adjustments on the 12 band I used to use before my power amp. (everything has a resonance frequency which multiplies in octaves, EQs serve to flatten out the overt resonance points-but only on a reference pink noise open analysis, there is a difference in EQ for tone weirdness and EQ for correct response reproduction. Ideally one wants the speaker or sound system to be able to reproduce the full range of frequency range but one seldom presents a flat response to the system in tones during live performance. )
My new cab is also properly dampened with material to eliminate hollow woofing and phase distortion that some cabs present as tone when basically being a hollow box. Some think a hollow cab is some of the tone, standing wave and phase distortion is not tone in the matter of sound engineering.
For my style of playing the 4x12 is what works the best for me. I have been a half stack player for many years and that is the rig that always delivers the goods for me in any application. I just do not like low wattage amps all that much, there is much more to wattage headroom than merely associating wattage with loudness. Loudness builds approximately 3db to a doubling of wattage which is not as much as many let on. 3db is the difference in volume between a pedal and a line level loop. A 100watt amp is 3db louder at peak than a 50watt and as well as the 100watt amp being perhaps 10db louder than a 10watt amp at peak.
The reason massive PA systems are so loud is the ratio of watts is so massive. a 1000 watts and you have a 100db in volume which is a whole "jet plane takeoff" lot. In the matter of guitar amps, for me cutting the wattage out of a guitar amp is cutting its balls off while not really lowering the volume all that much.
1) Wattage is not really about volume
2) Power tube distortion might be desirable for blues type or some fusion tones but for various metal level gains not a really good tone.
3.) A small speaker simply cannot reproduce the low end of a larger, it is just physics.
And when I do use a 2x12 cab model the resulting EQ on the POD does brighten and open the sound. It does not sound like a typical 4x12 hooked up to a Fender twin. Sounds better actually, sort of like the best of both worlds, a bright and vibrant Fender with some more balls.
The problems w various speakers are problematic to the laws of physics regarding sound and frequency. Some things are what they are. A larger speaker manifests the ability to reproduce more low end than a smaller one. A closed cab by isolating the rear wave of the speaker phase is heavier and deeper resonance than an open back which allows the sound to breath and escape. "Airiness" can be approximated with EQ and ambience via the mic pre-ambience adjust or the basic reverbs.
Wattage is headroom, and on the POD one can use one of the smaller amps and get a great tone while piping it into a power amp which will not peak out on wattage like the real amp and can project the tone of the amp beyond the ability of the little amps. Overt power tube or power amp disortion while being the rave of little amp users, has limited tonal desirability in all ranges of musical styles. Little amps do that pony trick well but they tank out in wattage very early on. That may be what you want and that is all fine and good but do not expect that amp to reproduce an uber gain amp sound like the POD can do.
Something to consider in the differences of using "fullrange" monitor speakers on the POD,verses a guitar cab like I use, is the matter of the sound is going to be split and fragmented through the speaker crossover circuits and further effected by phase time defraction effects of frequencies leaving the speaker and reaching the ear in different phase distortions. The problem is reduced by using a BBE unit properly set up to reduce the phase time distortion but basically on a monitor type speaker with a two way or three way speaker config the sound will be split whereas in the straight on 12" cab further using proper dampening and a tuned BBE unit the sound is more so true to what the real amps sound like. Believe me on my tuned and tweaked in Fenders and cleans you would not, just hearing it, presume it was not a twin 12 tone. Plus my cab is split stereo wired to L/R channels w 2x12 on each channel, the main 4x12 models are mixed to center.
Just hear to tell POD users and those not finding the merging to their normal guitar amp in mono or a 4 cable method, just does not work all that great or perhaps does not really expand their sound in the manner they imagined:
Being a long term player of somewhere around 35yrs I have been through it all from A to Z and I am here to just state that using a modeler sounds better through a straight on power amp. Most guitar amps have their own voice and tone and merely running the POD into the effect return on the amp models might work to a decent degree but if you have a great amp it is beyond me why you would want to do that.
If you want a more genuine realistic experimentation with amps in the POD you cannot afford; then allow the POD to reproduce them to their true potential.
Not running the HD500 in a stereo capable mode is not using half its ability. I would prefer separate cabs myself, and at some point I will get another one to get the speaker more far part which makes for more dramatic pan and spread effects.
I am just telling players 2 things about the HD PODs do not expect the POD to manifest the punch and power of the ENGL, Bogner, DualRec, Marshall, etc run through a tiny amp and do not judge the unit playing through a generic preset without tweaking, that is probably the most absurd thing I see on a daily basis.
I mean how hard is it to fathom that no preset anyone does, factory or user, is going to sound the same on everyone's guitar and amp much less their infinite touch and technique. Everything must be tweaked to one's environment EQ and rig. Seems to be a huge marketing crapola on presets and sounds-like click of a switch plug and play tones, any player of any experience knows that is a huge lark of nonsense.
By all means, everyone shoud use what that suits them and do what floats their boat as their guitar and style of playing is infinitely different. What works for one may not be the holy grail for another. Although my rig is very versatile and toneful to many different styles it may not be what someone else likes or can handle. if you're used to playing through a small low wattage single speaker amp with no pedals my rig would be too much to adjust to.
This post sort of wandered off from the basic topic but many things show up in the search enginers when one is looking for tips or info like I often do.
Just a note to anyone who might be reading things as I do to come across new ideas or tips on the POD:
I never had much luck getting the effect loop to sound right (which makes tying it into the amp a problem for me) I could not get some of the higher end pedals I have to merge with the unit as I had hoped in theory. So at this point, I just do not use the effect loop, some have realized you can program a nice clean boost by just jumpering the in/out and increasing the level for a switchable clean boost. That being said I run several of my better pedals IN FRONT of the POD and to report they work very well and the response of the POD to moderate overdrive, compression, and clean boost is the same as a real tube amp responds in gain and intensity.
I tend to hardly use any internal effects on amp in path except for my fav Pitch Glide harmonizer settings of 4ths and 5ths. I love the wahs, I find all the wahs in the POD to be really good. I set the output to about 92% on them and you have to select the right wah for the right amp and tone, not everything sounds right with anything. (Except perhaps a 5th up or down which sounds cool on cleans or heavy gain, I prefer the Pitch Glide harmonizer interval to the basic harmonizer effect as one does not have to maintain a strict boxed in key and scale.) Note: LINE 6 needs to fix the Pitch Glide Controller editor from percentage of pedal position to +/- interval like the pedal editor. One cannot set the expression pedal to an accurately tuned 4th or 5th (or any exact interval) like a real Whammy pedal.
Also another great tip to get a free volume pedal without having to use an effect block is to set the amp volume on a expression pedal where max would be where you would run the amp at peak, presto volume pedal without using up DSP on the effects blocks.
Also again that Mission L6-1 expession pedal made for the POD units is superb and well worth the cost for an additional expression pedal. I put all my wahs on that pedal as it feels and is just like a heavy duty wah chasis.
Any way just tossing out some tips and points for any who might pick up a piece of something that might help their efforts.
Currently Being ModeratedJun 7, 2012 8:36 PM (in response to Jephys)Re: Best amp to use with POD HD500??
ALL: This is an interesting discussion, and big thanks to anglepod for such a thorough response. I'm a recently-new owner of a POD HD500 and have for years been running my Variax 700 into either my Vetta II Combo or my Vetta HD with 4x12 cab. It'd be nice, after the HD cost, to NOT have to spend more unless necessary. So, DOES ANYONE HAVE SONIC EXPERIENCE WITH SENDING THE POD HD output into a Vetta, with the Vetta's "BYPASS (No Amp)" model selected? This supposedly makes the Vetta a straight power amp. In theory, the HD's outputs would receive tonal coloring only by the speaker/cabinet characteristics (open speakers of the Combo or the closed 4x12's). Any reason why this wouldn't be as good a solution as using an ART SLA-1 into a cab?
I do realize, unless I'm mistaken, to realize the HD stereo output capability, I'd have to use two Vetta's since inputs are mono.
Any advice and/or experience with this would be appreciated!
Currently Being ModeratedJun 8, 2012 12:45 AM (in response to Jephys)Re: Best amp to use with POD HD500??
Thanks for reading and talking, so hard to get any response on most guitar boards. I just toss put some ideas and tips as I am always lokking for decent info I can adapt.
Anytime you run into a loop return you are hitting the power amp directly.I ran my guitar synth rig for years into the effect return of two twins for stereo, that was just like a straight on power amp with no controls and no coloring. Now I have to tell you in the course of playing that rig over time, eventually I fried the boards on those amps, the resistor on the loop literally turned black. I was not really overdiving the outputs or anything just wanted the synth to produce all its imaging in stereo. Can't say this will happen in your case. And Carvin did tell me it was ok to feed the amp through the loop but if I fried out my uber tube head I would lose it. I love that V3 amp, just a versatile beasty.
I just use the ART SLA-1 because I wanted to experiment with stereo effects, panning and the dual chain capability. I only had the one uber head and I did not want to just run into the effect return on that amp as it is such a killer head or just stay mono. It's hard to find a power amp that has low enough wattage to be useable and the cost is so nominal, that was too cool. The ART is one impressive power amp and is designed for powering studio monitoring systems. I wish I was doing the band thing as my rig is so easy to carry w the POD and that little single rack space power amp. Hauling those tube heads or big combos can really be heavy.
Some of the stereo effects are great like the stereo delay. At this point I am wanting a sister cab to be able to get some spread happening between the channels. The split wired cab is working pretty good, you can hear the stereo delay going on with the short delay on one side and longer on the other. Also the stereo barberpole phaser is cool. But having 6 ft between cabs would be really sweet.
A power amp was the easy way out for me. I wanted to see what the POD could do on its tube modeling and not use my tube amp for a period.
So far the results have been beyond my expectations. So much so I have not fired up my tube head rig in months.
The POD amazed me in that it reacts to pedals up front just like an tube amp responds, I was not expecting that. I assumed I would get some sort of digital clipping or noise but man my compressor, overdrive and clean boost used single or all together hit the amp front end just like my tube amp did.
The HD turned out to be more than I expected. Once you get hip to some of the tricks it just really sounds good. If I were doing the band thing these days I would not hesitate to use it.
Currently Being ModeratedJun 10, 2012 9:04 PM (in response to anglepod)Re: Best amp to use with POD HD500??
I am actively gigging with the HD500/DT25 combo, 4 shows so far, all different venues, and I have to say it's the best live rig I've ever used. I am not using any external pedals, except for my favorite Boss tuner and a Rocktron talk box for the Frampton tunes. The actual guitar tone is completely generated on the DT25 and HD500, which are connected via the L6-link using a standard XLR cable.
The cleans are good, but perhaps no better than the cleans with my previous Egnater rig. However, the distortions are simply the best I've ever had on stage, with both the Strat and the Les Paul. I haven't ever been this happy with my live tone before. In fact I've been through so much equipment over the years, and so many disappointments, that I never thought I would ever be happy with my stage tone. And I have not even really optimized the settings yet. There is so much to explore in this system that so far I've only scratched the surface, yet already I've uncovered some really happening tones. Both guitars sound great, the distortions are screaming but not muddy, plently of sustain but with a clear core tone, not buzzy, it just sounds like an amp should sound, in my opinion.
Another remarkable thing about this rig is that is makes great tone at any volume, and it cuts through and sits in the mix perfectly. I feed the PA with the XLR direct out from the back of the DT25. I also experimented with using an actual
SM57, but I think the direct out sounds better. Also, in the last show, as another experiment, I had the guitar signal sent back to me through the stage monitors, so I could have a better idea what the front of house system sounded like to the audience. In the past, I usually hated the sound of the guitar in the monitors (a very bad sign), but with this rig, the monitors sounded great. Just my experience, FWIW.
Currently Being ModeratedJun 11, 2012 6:03 AM (in response to Jephys)Re: Best amp to use with POD HD500??
I like the way those tie into the edit and interface on the POD.
I tell you I used to love the sound I got tapping my speaker lines w a direct box instead of using mics. You actually heard what the amp was doing without a mic coloring and effecting the sound. Sending those to the PA made for a really great sound.
I just love the HD myself. By constantly working on and tweaking the various ranges of amps I would be hard pressed to say which I liked better the cleans or the uber gains. Just a great sounding machine. I am not up on the DT amps, they seem a little small for my tastes as I am not a low watt or signel speaker guy myself. When I looked at them there did not seem to be a twin. I just like the sound of multiple speakers. The 4x12 has been my fav for many years. Just dig them. Something to hear is a tweaked out Fender on the POD through that cab, sounds like a Fender on steroids.
I have recently rigged more pedals up front of my POD which has added to my various options and possibilities.My compressor and overdrive are just better than any internals and running them in front of the POD works really well, the amp models respond like tubes.
I love the uber gain amp heads but sometimes I like to hear that Wampler Pinnacle into a good clean amp. All in all the POD is just a lot of fun to mess with. Had the headphones on the other night working on some new ideas. The storage ability and preset numbers are just incredible. I have tons of stuff in there and in my PC storage area and have not used a fourth of the units setlist areas. I so like the ability to erase and use the factory slots and rename the setlist groups. First device I have ever had which allows you to trash the factory samples. Very cool.
Currently Being ModeratedJun 11, 2012 7:21 AM (in response to anglepod)Re: Best amp to use with POD HD500??
Yeah, I hear what you're saying about the 4x12 cabs ;-) I wish I could haul a big cab like that to the live shows, but it's so very cool to be able to easily carry in the little DT25, drop it on a floor tilt stand, cable it to the HD500 and the PA, and pretty much get any tone I need at low enough volumes to keep us from being thrown out, lol! To me, the most important thing these days is to get great tone out of the FOH system. Whatever gets me there solves my problem. Since that's the name of the game (for me), what I'm going for is a cranked 4x12 tone through the FOH without having the actual cab on stage blowing everyone away. So that's basically what I'm hearing when I listen to the playback from the live shows using the HD500/DT25 combo. I tried a few dirt boxes and compressors in front of the HD500, but to me none of them sound as good as the built-in sims. It's pretty crazy I'll admit. :-)
Currently Being ModeratedJun 11, 2012 5:37 PM (in response to Jephys)Re: Best amp to use with POD HD500??
Depends what they are really. I am a fan of Wampler pedals and nothing internal gets close to them. They also work very well in front of the POD.
I find a slight clean boost on the PB1, the thickening of the compressor, or the nice tones of the ecstasy overdrive respond against the amp models pretty much just like they do on my tube head. Of course it is a digital platform and you do not want to hit the POD front end with a giant boost level but set moderately just to add a little gain boost clarity and man the models just love it. And the DejaVibe, I am a old school Trower fan and that puppy reacts against the Marshalls in the POD in a most delicious manner. My Trower presets using a Ribbon mic like he had on the Bridge of Sighs are just a lot of fun to play. The Vibe reacts against the amp model just like on my tube head with that warble pulse into feedback. The POD models exceeded my expectations and it has been a real treat being able to goof with so many amps and arrangement options. I wish they would work on the effects loop, it needs to more transparent, I just have not been able to use it.
I used to have a smaller size single 12" amp (50watts I think) it was OK, had a great tone. It's just over the years I just love the 4x12 and at the least I like twins. although I get a better sound on closed back cabs. For your live needs sounds like the DT is your way to go as it is easy to pipe into the PA and retain your tones. All in all I find the HD POD a tremendous unit which I see as just having far greater potential than the average player will probably figure out. Hard to beat the interface work they have done for the DT into the POD editor, have you gotten into adjusting the params for the amp? So how does one work against the other, does the POD pretty much control the modeling? That DT amp thing seems to be a touch of heaven for the smaller amp lovers and the recording mavens.
I would not be afraid in the future to try any LINE 6 product now that I have the POD figured out. I would try a DT amp merley because they worked so hard to interface it. But it is hard to beat the uber depth and punch of my rig. I hope to expand my system w 2 separate cabs to get some spread across the channels. I am not playing w the band any more these days so I am not hauling my gear anymore. Yeah a lot to be said for that smaller DT and POD and presto, hooked up. It used to take me almost an hour to setup my rig. I get the setup simplicity. It might not be what your ideal wants would be but killer tone and easy rig haul is hard to beat.
I used to kill the guys in the band helping me carry in my amp and pedalboard.
I use to love messing with them, it was always "what does he have this week". I brought in one time 2 twins for stereo feed on my guitar synth, and my Marshall half stack for my main tone, plus my pedal board everyone loved when the light went down. Nothing funner than jamming with band, I miss it a lot but time moves forward. I will probably get into recording in the future as a means to play more mad scientist. i will never forget their faces the first time they heard that synth undertracking a human choir under the heavy gain punch of my Marshall. Sounded like one guitar playing all the parts to Diary of a Madman. Floored them, and the choir tones scared a few girls hanging around the rehersal room. Now that was a heavy scary tone I do not think anyone has touched,
Currently Being ModeratedJun 12, 2012 1:36 AM (in response to Jephys)Re: Best amp to use with POD HD500??
Hey I was just checking through my vendors inventory and there is a DT50 twin 12" pretty cool, not a cheap priced amp to be sure. Been my experience you sort of get what you pay for in life. Good costs.
Any rate, rave reviews about the tone on the DT and the HD interface w the HD500. I'd go for that one. Love the 50watt capability.
I am enjoying the full 2 channel feed I have now on my power amp and I basically wanted to have a break from tubes for a period just to see what the HD500 could really do. Dropping like $200 for a decent set of tubes was killing me and the bottom has fallen out of my budget for a period. The models on the HD sound and react like a tube amp, it was not a disappointment. I look forward to more updates from them.
DT tube amp, definitely a winner. I noticed that stereo Line 6 solid state is 150watts (75 per side) but there only seems to be a mono input to a stereo speaker out. Not cool for me. Be nice if they created a stereo DT amp. Seems a shame to not use the 2 channel capability of the POD. I am having a blast with stereo effects and sometimes using a different amp on each side. Love that stereo delay w a short delay on one side and longer on the other, pretty cool.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 24, 2012 5:28 PM (in response to Jephys)Re: Best amp to use with POD HD500??
For you guys to know, after a lot of research I went for the Blackstar HT-5R. It is a great valve amp to play at home and for small gigs.
It pairs great with the HD500, specially if you use the amp´s effects return. Also, it sounds great on its own.
I have been tinkering with both for the last few months and I am extremly happy.