Currently Being ModeratedDec 16, 2012 3:26 PM (in response to ronnied50)Re: Studio direct instead of combo/stack power amp mode
I have a pair of Marshall JCM900s and only use the Studio Direct mode into the effects return. I tried all the other settings and methods and Studio Direct works the best for me. I use high gain tones and play live with this configuration.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 16, 2012 3:45 PM (in response to joel_brown)Re: Studio direct instead of combo/stack power amp mode
Thank you for the reply,I don't know why it took me so long to try it, I mean it sounds so full and natural.Even if i throw a cab on for a different voice it sounds clear.I will be sticking to this for now on.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 17, 2012 4:12 AM (in response to ronnied50)Re: Studio direct instead of combo/stack power amp mode
Thanks! Very helpful. It makes sense because it would seem that selecting Studio/direct takes it out of the filter. I had not noticed this, and the result is appreciably clearer.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 17, 2012 6:16 AM (in response to ronnied50)Re: Studio direct instead of combo/stack power amp mode
The bottom line is that whatever sounds right with your rig is 'right'. Personally, I tend to stick with the Combo Power output mode with my JVM. This seems to give me the best balance between mud and too harsh.
I played with Studio direct at one point but found that the tones I was dialing in sounded great when it was just me jamming but when I put them into a rehearsal context they were too 'full' and made the band mix sound muddy. I guess I could have EQd the worst of it out but I just found it easier to hit clearer tones on the Power output mode.
Much of it depends on whether you are using Speakers as part of the amp model. With 'Power' , the speaker models are voiced for live via a real amp. With 'Studio' there is a more complex speaker simulation that is used for the desk. Without speakers, there is no difference between the two modes AFAIK.
I do however find that full amp models often work better in the Power output modes - where one would expect to use a pre-amp model only. This is because, for many amps, a large part of the overall tone is realised in the Power amp so you need it to make the whole lot work.
Again though, if Studio Direct is getting you where you want to be then ... result !!
Currently Being ModeratedDec 17, 2012 12:31 PM (in response to ronnied50)Re: Studio direct instead of combo/stack power amp mode
I use studio direct mode into a Rocktron velocity 100 that feeds my guitar cab. This so far has been the best set up I have found. I run preamp models only with no speaker sim at all. I found that when you run out the pod via 1/4" with output mode set to stack/combo amp, the speaker emulation is still on ( when you use the cab emulation in the pod ), but with a slightly different filter. In studio direct mode no speaker cab emulation is realized even if your using it in your patch. However if you turn off the speaker cab emulation altogether and run out via SD ( studio direct ) or stack/combo they still sound different. The SD sounds to me more clear and focused, while the stack/combo setting still has some sort of filter. The two stack and combo modes have two different settings. One for front and one for fx entry. The front has hi/low and focus parameters. I found them to be useless since I would not ever run this unit into the normal input of an amp. I almost exclusively used the stack fx loop mode during initial testing. Then I accidentally set the SD mode one day and noticed a nicer cleaner sound.
Here is my thought on why. When in SD mode the pod is supposed to emulate the patches as if they were exactly what they say they are. I.E. a Fireball pre should be the preamp of a Fireball..... So if I run the preamp of that amp into my real amp, I should realize as close to the real deal as I could get. No filters, no speaker emulation and nothing in the way to alter the sound. It should be at that point be preamp emulation, power amp and speaker cab. When in any other output mode the pod is trying to emulate and or compensate in some way for what they feel is needed.
I have tried running full amp patches ( minus speaker cab ) into my current set up and found it to not be as good as when using just the preamp. Although the sound is different and not exactly worse, I have found it to be too colored, bright and not as pleasing. I still have some experimenting to do running full amp and speaker cab emulations into an FRFR system, but at the moment for me it's still not quite there. I can get a sound I'm happy with, but I find it harder to build something that blends well in a full band setting for a live situation. close but not 100% yet.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 17, 2012 12:52 PM (in response to ronnied50)Re: Studio direct instead of combo/stack power amp mode
So i did a little side by side comparison last night and pretty much nailed my tone from my Dual Recto. I matched it up using the hd 500 through the effects return of the pwer amp section with no cab sim.
I started with the pre model and got pretty close but with the full amp model lowered the master dep to about 25% and got it even closer.
Im going to use it tonight in a band situation and i"ll post my findings asap.