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ChristianArnold Just Startin' 111 posts since
Oct 15, 2009
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Mar 13, 2012 10:19 AM

Is the JTV your main axe and if so, what other guitars are now backups?

I'm new to the whole JTV world and I actually don't even own it yet. It is supposed to get here on Monday. Just thought I'd start up a thread with the above question. Is the JTV your main guitar and if so, what other guitars are now backups? I am down to only one guitar right now and I am excited to get the JTV as my second. I've had tons of guitars over the years but I have narrowed it down to my 2010 Fender American Deluxe Strat.

 

 

I have heard in various JTV videos on youtube (yes I think I have watched every single one that is in english because I'm like a little kid in a candy store right now) that this was one of their aims in creating the JTV. That people would use the JTV as their main guitar. Are you guys doing this or is there some special guitar that still gets played more than your JTV? Also, previous generation variax users, is it correct to say that the variax was more used for special applications instead of being used as your main guitar? Hope to hear from you guys soon.

  • timothychern Just Startin' 22 posts since
    Jun 2, 2006

    I've been using my 300 as my main guitar for the past 5 years in my band. (www.60sgroove.com) Only recently, have I satrted using a real 12 string & acoustic, because we're playing more corporate gigs and it's more of a "percieved value" kind of thing when the members are switching guitars.....

  • leyfr01 Just Startin' 74 posts since
    Jan 26, 2007

    My JTV-59 became my main axe after a few slight modifications.  I changed the pickups to Lindy Fralin’s and I changed the tuners to Plant Waves Auto-Trim tuners.  My backup is an all original 1957 Strat.  I play County music and I will tell you that the JTV does absolutely everything I need it to do.  I can’t say enough about being able to change tunings and guitars on the fly. To go from an acoustic that is tuned to DADGAD to a semi hollow electric with the flick of a switch is mind blowing.  And this does happen in the new Country style of music out today.

     

    I used to own an old Variax 700 and try as hard as I could I could not get it to ‘feel’ quite right.  In addition the models on the JTV are far superior than they were on the 700. Hope this helps.

  • jasonbogen Just Startin' 357 posts since
    Sep 24, 2007

    My JTV-69 is my main guitar.  I have two Variax 300's that were my main and backup before I got the JTV.  I actually have an SG that I use as my backup.  It rarely ever gets played (only if I break a string on my JTV at a gig).  I had a few strange things happen with my 300's that made me get a backup, but have been using the JTV for over a year (well over 100 gigs) and haven't had anything go wrong.  As for your question, honestly, I would only use a non-Variax for a special project.  This thing does it all and does it well. 

     

    Even for my acoustic gigs, I leave the acoustics at home and just bring my Variax.  I get different models, 12 string and multiple tunings available at the turn of a knob.  It sounds amazing and with the new update coming soon should be even better (they announced they have updated the acoustic models). 

     

    The great thing with the JTV over the original Variax, besides the quality of the modeling and instrument, is that if you had a problem with the modeling, you have a quality standard pickup guitar to play as a backup.  That's why I got the strat style even though I prefer a Les Paul sound.  With the HSS configuration you have plenty of flexibility in a pinch.  I have never had that be a problem, but it's nice to know.

     

    Which JTV are you getting?

  • jasonbogen Just Startin' 357 posts since
    Sep 24, 2007

    One other thing.  I don't know what you are using with it, but I have the HD500 and DT25 stack to go along with it and it is amazing to be able to set up your tones, guitar models and tunings as patches in the HD500.  With a click of a pedal I can go from playing a tele bridge pickup in standard tuning on a Fender Twin to playing an acoustic 12 string in open G.  You can setup your lead patch to switch your pickup as well if you like.  It's endless.  I can't imagine there is a better setup for a cover band.

  • sfeinstein Just Startin' 28 posts since
    Jul 3, 2009

    I use my JTV-69 as my main guitar. For the first gig, I brought my acoustic as a just in case backup, but I never used it. I am still working and adjusting sounds, but for most of our songs, I know the sound I am looking for so I have a specific setting I use.

     

    Just last Sunday at a jam/practice, I used one of the acoustic12-string setting, the Jazzbox 3 setting, the banjo setting, one of the chime 12 string settings, etc. Lots and lots of fun. At a gig, I use the Special 3 setting and the Telecaster 3 setting a lot, but all of the settings have a place in different songs.

     

    Steve

  • toasterdude Just Startin' 745 posts since
    Oct 23, 2006

    Up until I got my JTVs a variax 500 xplant was my main guitar. I live outside the US and travel alot.  Jamming with coworkers in a "company band", usually meant I could only bring 1 guitar. Variax was perfect. My backup was a variax 500 and a variax 600. In fact until maybe 1.5 years ago, I had 5 variaxes and only 3 other electric guitars which I pretty much never played. In the last 18 months, I have added 2 Gibson Explorers, 2 danelectro hodads, a gretsch setzer hot rod, 3 epiphone semi hollows as in dot, casino and riviera, and a tele parts caster.

     

    Last april while preparing to play a single song at a business meeting in vegas I was recording my parts. I used my JTV 59 into a POD X3L as the lack of SLO on the HD500 didn't allow me to get my usual rockin tone. For the solos I had mags and models going into separate amp chains and got a cool sound quickly. Nothing earth shattering but it worked for the tune.

     

    When it was time to head to vegas, I wanted to take an Explorer that I just added new godwood pickups to. I plugged that guitar into the X3L patch and it did pretty much zero for me. I tweaked it a bit but it still didn't sound as fat or as deep. Plugged the JTV back in and using a combo of neck humbucker for mags and the bridge/middle LP custom on the models gave me a sound I could not get any other way. Not the same as using all 3 pickups on a 3 humbucker guitar as the neck was going to one q filter, amp, delay chain while the bridge middle went to a ts, amp delay chain.

     

    From that point on the JTV ha been my number 1. Even if I wasn't in love with the neck or playability as compared to my Variax 500 xplant. My old number 1. In fact I barely touched what was my old number 1 in the past year,playing the JTV 95% of the time. I picked up that old xplant and the neck was just som much better more comfortable to me compared to the JTV. However my old xplant could not do models and mags at the same time as it didn't have mag pickups.

     

    I just today picked up my first JTV xplant. The neck has the same specs as my old number 1 but will be able to do mags and models at the same time so I am pretty sure this puppy will be the new number 1, although being an explorer it is a bit tougher to travel with. My JTV 59 is now backup and will be used more when traveling. I originally planned on yanking the guts out of tha JTV and putting them in my old number 1 xplant. Then I realised while that xplant was in the works I would have my new xplant but no JTV to travel with.

     

    So. . .I just picked up a 3rd JTV59 on ebay ofor $1199 and that one will be the donor to xplant into my old number 1. I can continue to play the new explorer xplant and use the current JTV 59 as backup or when traveling.

     

    So hopefully soon my main guitar will be a 59 xplanted into a guitar I really dig and the backup will be another JTV xplant. Once those two are done. . .it may be time for xplant number 3. . . . I am thinking LP double cut from warmoth. . .

  • markcockerill Just Startin' 246 posts since
    Dec 7, 2007

    My main guitar is a cherry red 69 but there was no way I was gonna gig with it with the original neck so I swapped that out for a Warmoth neck within hours of it's arrival. I have gigged with it at least twice a week ever since. I use a really nice Washburn as a backup and only had to use it a couple of times when I broke strings. You can bet your ar$e the strings were replaced rather quickly so I could get going again. I would however, happily use my Variax 700 but that stays at home now and rarely gets used.

     

    A couple of weeks ago I tried gigging with my Ibanez 2170 Prestige and whilst it plays beautifully, just isn't a patch on the 69 with the Warmoth neck.

     

    Whether I am in the studio, live, jamming or in the garage, I take my 69 everywhere. I just love the thing.

     

    Just as a side note, I use a DT50 head into 4x12 for gigging and jamming, I'm lucky I can leave 1 of my cabs at the jam venue all locked up from week to week. But, I have stopped using the HD500 and now use the M13 instead. Ok I've lost the one button does everything feature but what I get back in tone and feel is worth the trade. Using the 69 manually is no big deal and nor is stomping on a few switches, I've done it for years. I love the concept, just didn't work that well for me.

     

    Hope you love your new JTV like I do. It'll change your life.

  • wolbai Just Startin' 177 posts since
    Mar 30, 2010

    My backup guitar is a JTV as well: I am using a JTV59 + JTV69, because both guitars has some added value depending on the song.

     

    Once you are using the integrated version (DT/XX , DTXX + JTVXX) and especially in combination with acoustic sounds, different tunings, etc., I feel there is no other option than having a second JTV as a backup to me. My guitar setup in a Cover Rock Band is now heavily depended on this rig combination. For example I cannot simply play Dropped Eb tuning in a Strat Style with my Gibson Les Paul or  an Acoustic sound with alternate tuning (capo on 7th fret) with my Godin Progression on the fly in a giging situation.

     

    wolbai

  • Allenf Just Startin' 4 posts since
    Mar 8, 2010
    1. As a lead guitar player for a rock band, I used to use the (Dean baby V) and Ibanez RG and S models now I have the  JTV 89 Blood Red, for about a year now and I only now, and I use it exclusively for everything the rig setup is  JTV89br, PODHD500, Relay G90, spider valve 2, it is really the best setup there is, the JTV is perfect because  we use acoustic melodies and metal transitions in the same songs, and a the flip of a switch I’m there, also different songs have interesting tuning where you would need a different guitar, one song in particular switch from major to minor about three times in the song, and again at the flip of a switch, I could go on for a very long time like this, but for the sake of time, I have no backup guitar. And after seeing and feeling the be wonderment the other guitar player tossed his Ibanez prestige, and grabbed the JTV89 Black, and the pod x3 live, Line 6 for president loll>>
  • EnzoHeavenly Just Startin' 19 posts since
    Dec 26, 2008

    Being a songwritter (without a proper band yet), I've been using my JTV-59 for demoing for a while and for support my friend's band from time to time, my backup guitar is still my old Epiphone Emily The Strange SG, which sounds nice to me (maybe cos I changed the electronics and pups to DiMarzio's 36th anniversary set).

     

    So that's it for now, even though I'm thinking about getting a ES-335~ish kit so I can make my own guitar

     

    Note: I like the acoustic sounds of the JTV-59 with 11s (rather than 10), sounds a little better to me.

  • sjerome1 Just Startin' 12 posts since
    May 13, 2011

    Hi all.

     

    I use the JTV-69 as my main guitar now. Usually JTV > POD HD 500 > front of house. Occasionally JTV-69 > POD HD 500 > Spider IV HD150 half stack. I usually have to turn on the amp in "Test" mode, so as not to color the tone, but more recently I have just been  asking the sound person for 3 XLR, 2 for the POD and one for my MIC. I play in a rock band that re-does a lot of the 80's and 90's tunes, and the ability to switch from onboard mags, to a strat, to a les paul, to a 12 string acoustic, simply by pressing a button, including altrnate tunings, is a blessing.

     

    My back up guitar differs with the gig.

    Primarily I use a Schecter C1+ with duncan designed pickups and a coil tap.

    For heavier shows I use my ESP EC1000FR with active 85 in the bridge, and active 60 in the neck.

     

    But these guitars usually just sit there in-tune and looking good. The Variax does way to much to want to put it down.

    I use the Variax mostly over VDI. For a gig that doesn't require on the fly tuning and or model changes, I tend to favor running it through a Line 6 Relay G30.
    I have two different set lists for every show. One using Variax instructions, and the other relying on me manually setting up the guitar per song. Having this flexability is truely a wonderous thing.

     

    In the near future I expect to complete my "Dream Rig" by aquiring a DT-25 or DT-50 head and running it into my Spider IV slant cabinet.

     

    Best Regards, and Keep Playing.

  • Inerzia Just Startin' 54 posts since
    Feb 10, 2007

    Hi everybody,
    I'm using a black JTV-89 as my main guitar, through an HD500 and direct to PA. As monitors, I'm using two small mackie powered enclosures running in stereo.
    I prefer full range monitoring over guitar amps because of the acoustic models.
    As a backup, I'm using my amber trem v700, but as soon as the new floating bridge equipped JTV-89's hit the streets, I'm getting one, because the 700 just

    can't be a proper substitute for the JTV.
    This summer, everytime I would break a string, I would switch to the 700, and, not sounding bad, I felt something was missing on the acoustic models.
    And then, of course, there's the magnetic pickups...
    It seems to me that only a JTV can be a real, 100% up to the task backup for another JTV.

     

    J.

  • brywool Just Startin' 11 posts since
    Feb 13, 2009

    Hi, I'm a new ower of a JTV-59 (Black). I bought the JTV as an alternative to bringing 4 different guitars to a tribute band gig that I'm working with. Bringing those 4 guitars, a keyboard, and a mandolin is something I won't miss by now only bringing the JTV, mando, and keyboard. Interesting thread here and it brings up something I didn't think of (DUH!) - If I'm using JTV-59 as my sole guitar, and the HD500- if I break a string and the song calls for an acoustic, I'm in trouble. Yikes. Might have to buy another JTV before long- the blue one sure is nice!  I'm actually in 3 bands and will only (at first anyway) use the JTV in the one with the most instruments. I'm running it through a Bose L1 II and so far, I'm getting really great results with it. Now, my Takamine 12 string acoustic, Epiphone 6 string acoustic, and whatever electric I normally bring (Tele, 1 of 2 Strats, Ric 620, or Les Paul) will most likely stay at home for the multi-instrument gig. Excited to use it live.

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