Currently Being ModeratedJan 20, 2013 9:21 AM (in response to Slartibartfarst)Re: M13 information needed
Let's see, I'll take a shot at your questions. Regarding the more subjective ones, there's not much I can say, though. How one defines quality in things like compressors and overdrives really comes down to a matter of taste. I've seen so many conflicting opinions on those things even in the analog world, that I don't think anyone could really give a concrete answer to those sorts of questions.
But here goes.
1. There are seven wah models to choose from, and, yes, they can be controlled by an expression pedal. The only drawback is that you have to turn the wah on and off with a footswitch on the M13 and then the expression pedal simply controls the position of sweep. It's different than a traditional wah in the sense that you don't have on and off capability with the expression pedal itself.
2. I actually like the compressors, and I think they basically act like a "real" compressor.
3. Noise gate is generally OK. You have threshold and decay controls. I actually am not a fan of noise gates in general, and I don't have a lot to compare it to. I do have a Boss NS-2, and to me, the M13's noise gate and it are comparable.
4. No, there is a noise gate setting that can be saved on a scene per scene basis. This noise gate comes at beginning of the M13's internal signal chain. It is essentially the same as the noise gate that can be used as an effect, though. Most people would use this gate instead of the actual effect block, because it frees an effects slot up.
5. EQ does take up an effects slot.
6. I hit on this at the beginning of my reply, but I don't think the ODs and distortions are useless. They are quite good, actually. That being said, I still use analog pedals for this, because these types of effects aren't really something I generally want to use in a preset type of scheme. I use them more as a foundation for my tone, and I will tweak them quite a bit. I just find it suits my playing style better to use analog pedals for this.
Many thanks indeed. The M13 does indeed look like a good bit of kit and I'm grateful for your help. Having the noise gate separate from the effects banks helps a lot, it's a shame the EQ isn't the same. Somebody else on a different forum told me that the overdrives were the weakest element of the unit but there were some good models in there. He said the Screamer was very good and I think it was the Tube Driver that he also singled out for praise. The compressors should be fine, especially with the noise gate there. I am sorely tempted by this unit but there are distinct drawbacks. I would almost certainly have to go down the path of a separate Wah pedal which increases the cost and there is a chance that this would also apply to the overdrives. If that is the case, the real problem is that it would end up as taking up a lot of floor space and when you're playing in pubs, space is at a premium and the M13 by itself is hardly small. I suspect that these factors will push me towards either the GT-100 or the Quattro. If I was after amp modeling the GT-100 wouldn't get a look in as it's rubbish but as an effects box it has a lot to offer while the Quattro just does almost what I want in a very simplistic but high quality way. You've been really helpful and I'm sorry it looks like this time I'll be going elsewhere. Perhaps my feedback may be useful for the future.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 20, 2013 2:00 PM (in response to Slartibartfarst)Re: M13 information needed
You could look at the HD500, too. It has all the effects that the M13 has, an on-board expression pedal that can be used for wah, and it allows you to use up to 8 effects blocks at once in a preset. It's the same price as the M13.