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adessmith Just Startin' 119 posts since
Jan 6, 2009
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Jan 3, 2013 9:33 AM

VDI cable out of stock everywhere?

This seems strange...

There are no online retailers (that I can find) that have the VDI cable in stock.
I really need to get one, but I cant find a reputable retailer that has it.
It's listed at $29.99 on musicians friend, sweetwater, music123, etc... but out of stock.
Several weeks ago, there were several sellers on ebay that had it for $29.99.

I get my ebay bucks today, and I was gonna use them to buy the cord, but at the moment there is only one listed on ebay, and they want $45 for it!!!
I really need to find one on ebay this month so I dont loose my $28 worth of ebay bucks...

 

Have these things been discontinued or something?
I wonder if line 6 has redesigned them, and let all the old stock run out before releasing the new one....

  • bigglesdog Just Startin' 15 posts since
    Oct 8, 2012
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    Jan 3, 2013 1:10 PM (in response to adessmith)
    Re: VDI cable out of stock everywhere?

    The VDI cable is just a standard CAT-5 ethernet cable with the protector hoods at each end. You can use a regular ethernet cable in a pinch if you aren't going to be putting strain on the ends

    • gtrman100 Iknowathingortwo 479 posts since
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      Jan 3, 2013 5:45 PM (in response to bigglesdog)
      Re: VDI cable out of stock everywhere?

      It is NOT a standard Cat 5 cable. The plastic shell is slightly larger than a Cat 5, and the wiggling of the plug in the socket will break the socket in fairly short order. The metal shells on the VDI cables help stabilize the cable and ensure it's sturdiness, but Line 6 definitely warns against using a standard Cat 5.

      • silverhead Expert Line 6 User 9,592 posts since
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        Jan 5, 2013 6:36 AM (in response to gtrman100)
        Re: VDI cable out of stock everywhere?

        gtrman100 wrote:

         

        It is NOT a standard Cat 5 cable. The plastic shell is slightly larger than a Cat 5, and the wiggling of the plug in the socket will break the socket in fairly short order. The metal shells on the VDI cables help stabilize the cable and ensure it's sturdiness, but Line 6 definitely warns against using a standard Cat 5.

        +1

         

        A standard Ethernet cable should only be used for brief periods in test/emergency situations, to check whether a VDI cable is faulty, and perhaps to get you through the rest of a gig when the VDI cable has failed. A regular Cat5 cable should not be used routinely.

  • tomcharles1 Just Startin' 3 posts since
    Mar 18, 2012
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    Jan 3, 2013 3:01 PM (in response to adessmith)
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  • petef Just Startin' 28 posts since
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    Jan 3, 2013 4:59 PM (in response to adessmith)
    Re: VDI cable out of stock everywhere?

    Got mine from Best Tronics...  http://best-tronics.com/guitar-cable/ethercon/variax.aspx

     

    This cable is more flexible than the Line6 version and the Ethercon ends are better strain relieved as well as much better cable (limp vs very stiff)... they ship usually in same day..

     

    You need to specify the length (mine are 25')...

     

    I'm just a happy customer...  I have posted about this prior.. FYI

    • snhirsch Just Startin' 67 posts since
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      Jan 5, 2013 6:28 AM (in response to petef)
      Re: VDI cable out of stock everywhere?

      The Line-6 cable handles like a garden hose.  I cannot imagine being able to use it on stage without having it snag on anything and everything.  Will be buying a Best-tronics cable in the near future.

    • Krontab Just Startin' 201 posts since
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      Jan 9, 2013 4:46 PM (in response to petef)
      Re: VDI cable out of stock everywhere?

      Ordered mine can't wait!

    • snhirsch Just Startin' 67 posts since
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      Jan 12, 2013 9:59 AM (in response to petef)
      Re: VDI cable out of stock everywhere?

      My Best-Tronics cable arrived today.  Night and day improvement over the Line-6 cable - to the point where I'd advise not wasting good money on the latter.  This one I can actually use on stage.  It's only slightly stiffer than a high-quality conventional shielded cable, similar to Belden microphone cable.

       

      Line-6 has some great products, but there are certain areas that could really use a review by the appropriate sales, marketing and engineering folks:

       

      - The VDI cable.  Fire your cable supplier and OEM from BestTronics.

       

      - Scarcity of stocking dealers and complete lack of training for those that do exist.  I was persistent enough to drive 500 miles round-trip to try and buy my JTV-69.  Many will not be.  I was interested in additionally buying a POD HD500 at the same time, but there was no one at the Boston Guitar Center able to demonstrate how it worked with the JTV.  The guitar itself had been sitting on the wall long enough to build up oxide on the strings and I get the impression I was the first person to test drive it.

       

      (After doing a lot of reading on the net, I eventually bought an HD500 on eBay.  It was a close-out from a dealer in NYC who plainly was unable to move it.  Almost factory fresh and came with original box, unopened manual, etc.  Marketing and training disaster strikes again, I suspect)

       

      - The miserable JTV-69 neck design.  Railroad ties for frets and narrow width at nut.  I'm sure some folks like this, but there are legions of us who do not.  At a minimum, consider offering a Fender-licensed Strat neck as an extra-cost option.

       

      The fact that I (and others) have suffered through all of this to bond with the instrument is a testimonial to what Line-6 has done correctly.  It makes the negative aspects seem all the more silly and correctable.

  • killergege Just Startin' 74 posts since
    Dec 25, 2009
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    Jan 4, 2013 8:28 AM (in response to adessmith)
    Re: VDI cable out of stock everywhere?

    And it's almost impossible to find in France at an acceptable price :'( (line 6 doesn't ship here).

     

    And I try once to use a regular ethernet cable : it really doesn't work well (lots of contact failures).

  • sparkyERTW Just Startin' 271 posts since
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    Jan 10, 2013 7:13 AM (in response to adessmith)
    Re: VDI cable out of stock everywhere?

    I just ordered a 15' DuraCat/Neutrik cable off of eBay a couple days ago.  I'll let everyone know the verdict on it (and the source, if it turns out to be good) once it arrives.

    • silverhead Expert Line 6 User 9,592 posts since
      Apr 1, 2009
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      Jan 10, 2013 8:35 AM (in response to adessmith)
      Re: VDI cable out of stock everywhere?

      adessmith wrote:

       

      ... or even better, a wireless VDI system!!!...

      That would be cool, and I guess it could be done as far as the digital data goes. But until there is wireless power it can't completely replace the VDI cable. But still, with a fully charged battery a JTV can go a long time - and without a cable would be great.

    • sparkyERTW Just Startin' 271 posts since
      Feb 23, 2008
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      Jan 21, 2013 9:42 AM (in response to adessmith)
      Re: VDI cable out of stock everywhere?

      Unfortunately I just received notice that my money has been refunded and the order cancelled due to a backorder of the cable, and that I can re-order after the 28th. Not sure why if it's only a week's delay they're outright cancelling it; I guess with certain things needing to happen by a certain time in eBay's system, they might have to go that route.

       

      I'm toying with the idea of going the Best-Tronics route instead.  Did everyone get the 'Variax' one?  A lot of the other Ethercon cables list what the underlying cable is and whether it's for "studio and home use" or "harsh environments, venues, clubs, footpedals".  They unfortunately don't tell you what's used for the Variax one or what it's suited for.

  • dvenom77 Just Startin' 2 posts since
    Nov 5, 2007
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    Jan 16, 2013 11:19 AM (in response to adessmith)
    Re: VDI cable out of stock everywhere?

    Go to have inc I just orderd to cables customade they shipped today

  • brywool Just Startin' 11 posts since
    Feb 13, 2009
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    Jan 16, 2013 8:37 PM (in response to adessmith)
    Re: VDI cable out of stock everywhere?

    I ordered one yesterday from musiciansfriend. I got word today they're not due to ship until Feb 20.
    Man, I was hoping to use my new Variax for gigs before then.

    Grrr....

  • soundcrafterpro Just Startin' 8 posts since
    Jan 11, 2008
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    Jan 18, 2013 4:56 PM (in response to adessmith)
    Re: VDI cable out of stock everywhere?

    I also bought one from Bestronics and had it in just a few days. They build the cable when you purchase so you can get any length you want. I went with 15 foot hoping the shorter length would solve my problem. My original cable worked fine with my old Variax 500 / XTlive but was wiggy with the JTV and HD500. So far the new cable is fine and is a much nicer build and feel than the stock Line 6. I suspect that Line 6 is changing cables to one that works reliably, hence the shortage.

    • edstar1960 Iknowathingortwo 712 posts since
      May 25, 2010
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      Jan 28, 2013 1:10 AM (in response to soundcrafterpro)
      Re: VDI cable out of stock everywhere?

      Is there a UK or European supplier that offers a version of the Bestronics cable? 

      Thanks.

      • sparkyERTW Just Startin' 271 posts since
        Feb 23, 2008
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        Jan 28, 2013 6:43 AM (in response to edstar1960)
        Re: VDI cable out of stock everywhere?

        Best-tronics put the cable together themselves from bulk cable + neutrik connectors.  While the Variax SKU doesn't explicitly say what type of cable is used, looking at their other Ethercon offerings and the offerings of others, search for suppliers of the following:

         

        Belden 1304A/1305A - Reliable name in digital cabling. The 1305A is the slightly more rugged of the two.

        CA-0449/CA-0386 - Not sure of the manufacturer, possibly BTs own brand. Again, CA-0386 is the more rugged.

        DuraCAT - another rugged Ethernet standard. Kelsey in the UK carries it (though I don't know if they sell assembled cables).  There's a pretty good chance this is what BTs Variax cable is made from.

         

        Basically you want to search for the terms "tactical ethernet"

    • sparkyERTW Just Startin' 271 posts since
      Feb 23, 2008
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      Feb 11, 2013 8:20 AM (in response to adessmith)
      Re: VDI cable out of stock everywhere?

      Very cool. I've got the DuraCAT-based from eBay arriving sometime this week, and I've got the Best-tronics to pick up at a cross-border box this Saturday. I figured it couldn't hurt to have a couple of them anyway. I'll have to post a comparison of them once I have them both in hand.

      • sparkyERTW Just Startin' 271 posts since
        Feb 23, 2008
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        Feb 19, 2013 7:49 AM (in response to sparkyERTW)
        Re: VDI cable out of stock everywhere?

        Alright, I have both cables on hand now: the 15' DuraCAT-based cable from eBay and the 25' Belden 1305A-based cable from Best-Tronics.  They both seem well contstructed and work just fine.  They're both about the same thickness (which is funny, because I could've sworn the spec on DuraCAT suggested it should be thinner) and feel like they could take a fair beating.  The Best-Tronics cable seems just a little bit more flexible than the DuraCAT one. I wouldn't say you could go wrong with either, but I might give a slight edge to the Best-Tronics for the little bit of extra flexibility.

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