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radatats Just Startin' 38 posts since
Nov 1, 2006
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Mar 4, 2013 8:17 AM

My Rig is Too Damn Loud

Ok, maybe it is me, it probably is.  However, I can't use my amp if the Master is turned above 2, 3 MAX!  I am talking ear crushing loud.  I must have something set wrong because surely it isn't supposed to be that loud.  Hell, I can't go over 6-7 in LVM!  I have a Flextone II that isn't as friggin loud!

 

Here is my rig:

 

Guitar > HD500 > DT25HD > 2X12 cab.  I am using the L6 link with global input settings > Guitar, same, 1M.  Cab has 2 Vintage Celestion Green 8ohm speakers indepentently wired with individual input jacks.  Each speaker is connected to one of the 4ohm jacks (8ohm pair, 4 ohm single).

 

I created a set list with just preamps, no FX or cabs, average channel volume at 40, and still, can't push Master above 3 without ear damage!  And it sounds a little harsh too.  Very hard to get that warm syrupy tone.

 

I downloaded a ton of presets from Customn Tone too and it is the same thing or worse.

 

I did the full flash routine and reset the global and did the pedal calibration too.  Pedal will not calibrate to 0-255, only goes 17,18-255.  Is that an issue too?  Other symptoms, I can't get the toe switch to activate either.  So Wah is unusable...

 

When I play through the HD500 to headphones it is no problem.  The signal levels are reasonable and don't blow my ears out.

 

So, I am sure I have something set wrong.  I appreciate anyone's help here and will try anything and everything.  I have read plenty of posts where guys are complaining the DT25 isn't loud enough so something is wrong here...

 

HELP!

  • TheRealZap Expert Line 6 User 11,829 posts since
    Dec 22, 2006
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    Mar 4, 2013 8:39 AM (in response to radatats)
    Re: My Rig is Too Damn Loud

    they are usually pretty loud... but just for the sake of eliminating possibilities, have you updated everything?

      • TheRealZap Expert Line 6 User 11,829 posts since
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        Mar 4, 2013 9:19 AM (in response to radatats)
        Re: My Rig is Too Damn Loud

        the settings vary greatly by what amp model i'm using...

        but let me ask you this, are you using the pre models in the HD500?

      • geppert Just Startin' 188 posts since
        Nov 8, 2010
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        Mar 4, 2013 9:19 AM (in response to radatats)
        Re: My Rig is Too Damn Loud

        Couple questions ....

         

        1) Do you have the loudness problem just using the amp alone (no POD)?

        2) What NFL are you generally using? The NFL IV is loud for sure.

         

        I have a HD500 + DT25 Head/Cab (using L6 Link) but not the problems you describe.

         

        There are many good and knowlegable people on here so maybe we can help you out.

  • innovine Just Startin' 31 posts since
    Feb 14, 2012
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    Mar 5, 2013 12:17 AM (in response to radatats)
    Re: My Rig is Too Damn Loud

    Maybe it's just loud? Have you ever played alongside a drummer in a small room?!

     

    On the higher gain topologies with the channel volume turned up a good way, I can barely bring the Master up at all before it's too loud for my apartment.

  • spaceatl Expert Line 6 User 4,456 posts since
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    Mar 5, 2013 6:43 AM (in response to radatats)
    Re: My Rig is Too Damn Loud

    You could have a couple of things in play here...I am assuming you have the newer Greenbacks...those are fairly efficient speakers (SPL=98db). At 1 watt at 1 meter you speakers will hit 98db of sound pressure...You are also running at 4 ohms. More power to the cones vs. two 16 ohm speakers using the 8 ohm taps...When I run my DT25 head with the band, I find the head to have just enough power running the way you are (4 ohm load into 212 cab...My speakers are rated at 100 db SPL)...When I am at home I use the DT25 cab loaded with a single 16 ohm speaker. That attenuates the output down a bit. You might be a bit happier with 16 ohm speakers in your cab...That approach loosens the master a little...If you go for lower SPL speakers, that will loosen it even more...Every -3db you go down in SPL is like cutting the power in half...works the other way too....every +3db is like doubling the power...It's the efficiency rating and it's pretty important when finding the speaker that will suit the amp to you...

  • Stueyd Just Startin' 50 posts since
    Feb 5, 2009
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    Mar 6, 2013 3:00 AM (in response to radatats)
    Re: My Rig is Too Damn Loud

    My experience is that these are LOUD amps, but it does depend what topology you're using, ie: a topology 1 Fender is a lot quieter than a topology 3 AC30 with the gain cranked up.

    Also i've found the speaker very directional, so if you're stood directly in front of it, it seems a LOT louder than a couple of feet either side.

    What i've done to get around this is to fit a Dr Z Airbrake Lite Attenuator so I can drop the volume and fit a "beam blocker" in front of the speaker to disperse the sound.

    It's really worked for me!

     

    See this thread http://uk.line6.com/support/thread/90632

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