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fanir Just Startin'
fanir
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Mar 7, 2013 10:04 PM

Hard gate after Tubescreamer?

Hi, I'm having trouble trying to figure out the best possible way to place my hard gate in my HD Pro. I'm using my heavy rhythm patch with a lot of staccato notes. I'm using to hard gate to cut out the excess noise after every mutes but so far, I'm getting the ek ek ek, tremolo-ish effect. I've read Meambobo's fantastic guide and have a real good idea on what it is, it's just that, I can't seem to get it spot on. I've been messing around with it for a couple of hours now.

 

I then placed the hard gate after the screamer. It worked good but each time I sustained a mute, I get a very bad feedback from my Marshall JCM800 amp. I'm my HD Pro bypass my Marshall head, just using the power amp for this patch. Plus, it's been said that it's not the right to have a gate after the screamers from what I read around forums.

 

So, what's a good setting to start off?

 

Hope to hear your thoughts on this,

Many thanks,

James

  • gunpointmetal Just Startin'
    gunpointmetal
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    Mar 8, 2013 1:47 PM (in response to fanir)
    Re: Hard gate after Tubescreamer?

    I like to use two gates for really tight riffing and mutes...I stick a hard gate just high enough to cut out when I mute right at the front of the chain, before anything, then I'll usually put another one with higher settings after my OD boost in the chain. I was getting those quick feedback sounds at the end of my mutes too, but for me it was mostly a matter of playing tighter and making sure I didn't have everything "on 10"

    • jimsreynolds Power User
      jimsreynolds
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      Mar 9, 2013 12:59 PM (in response to gunpointmetal)
      Re: Hard gate after Tubescreamer?

      I also use two gates (when I use gates at all).   I tend to favour high gain amps over modelled dirtboxes, for foundation tone, and so I put the gate directly after the modelled amp to screen high gain 'hiss' coming through the modelled amp.

       

      For my 4CM setup I do exactly the same thing when I set one of the high gain modes on my Marshall JVM.

       

      With regard to the basic question ... gate after screamer .... the problem with that is that you will have boosted any noise from the guitar with the screamer so the gate has to be turned up higher to make it work.  This sounds progressively more unnatural, the more noise there is.  That is why it is better to gate before the screamer.

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