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litesnsirens Iknowathingortwo
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Mar 18, 2013 10:54 PM

Trim Settings

I'm in the process of switching from Bose L1 PA systems to the Line 6 stage scape / source PA.  Regarding the trim settings on the M20d, are they saved when you save a "Set Up"??  I understand that there is some pretty sophisticated stuff going on with the auto-trim which is great for setting them in the first place but a change at that point in gain staging can have a noticable effect on the overall mix.  In the manual, it states all channel settings and levels are saved. But there are other mixers in which all settings are saved but not the trims, so I just wanted to clarify. Also, I know I may have missed it in the manual, but how many setups can be saved in the M20d?

  • ArneLine6 Line 6 Support
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    Mar 19, 2013 9:19 AM (in response to litesnsirens)
    Re: Trim Settings

    The M20d has digitally controlled mic pre amps. The trim settings and all other channel settings are saved with a setup. When you load a setup all trim settings are recalled.

    The number of setups that can be stored is only limited by the internal memory. Depending on the size of the setups the answer is "a few hundred."

  • litesnsirens Iknowathingortwo
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    Mar 19, 2013 12:15 PM (in response to litesnsirens)
    Re: Trim Settings

    Thanks Arne for that. This is really impressive and I'm really happy to be moving to this PA system.  Admittedly I had owned an M20d for only a day back in the fall.  At that point I was looking for a mixer that would work as a studio interface as well.  Who knows maybe in the future a firmware update will reduce the unuseable latency that currently exists when trying to use the M20d.  In the meantime I will get something small and inexpensive to use as an interface and probably sell my Presonus mixer.  I figure if I want to record a band, I record to an SD card right in the M20d and then dump that into my DAW and then use the small interface for one at a time overdubs.  As far as live sound goes, I don't think there is anything that can touch the M20d. (I guess unless you NEED more channels).

    • silverhead Expert Line 6 User
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      Mar 19, 2013 12:41 PM (in response to litesnsirens)
      Re: Trim Settings

      I too wish the M20d was more viable as a studio audio interface. Maybe someday.

       

      But in case you haven't seen this, a user (thanks aewill) has posted a method of doing some overdubbing using just the M20d. I haven't tried it but it looks interesting.

      http://line6.com/support/message/421527#421527

      • litesnsirens Iknowathingortwo
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        Mar 19, 2013 2:45 PM (in response to silverhead)
        Re: Trim Settings

        Ya I read through that, it looks pretty interesting.  Looks a little complicated but that may just be because I don't have the M20d in front of me yet to sort of work through it.  I'm a little surprised at how bad the latency is, I mean this is one of the more sophisticated pieces of gear on the market today.  I know my way around computers a little bit but don't have the knowledge to know what would affect the latency, like whether it's drivers, or firmware on the unit itself, or a combination of both.  But I'm just thinking this thing would be unbelievably versatile if they could get that latency down.  The thing is, since you can do direct monitoring, the latency just has to be good enough so that things kind of line up when doing overdubs.  Here's to hoping!!! 

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