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jedibandit1 Just Startin' 3 posts since
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Drivers for Vista

I bought a 600 and variax workbench. I have vista so the software that came with it wouldn't work. I got everything except the drivers to download from your site. Every time I try to download the driver it still doesn't see my usb connection. Any Ideas?

  • amx05462 Power User 3,579 posts since
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    Oct 14, 2009 2:16 PM (in response to jedibandit1)
    Re: Drivers for Vista

    if your version of vista  is 64 bit    then  workbench will not work. it needs a nonexistant  64 bit usb driver.  dont hold your breath .  line 6 has  no plans of  writing  this  driver  any time soon if ever

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        Oct 15, 2009 2:22 AM (in response to jedibandit1)
        Re: Drivers for Vista

        i would put in a  request for  the  driver   . lots of  other people  have done  that.  one  more  couldnt hurt.

         

           they ( sell) other  equipment   you can connect  with  i think  pod xt or something.    personally  i refuse  to  buy  that or anything  else . who  knows what they will stop support for in the  future  but i just thought  you  would  like  to know  that there are other  options. also if you  still have  an xp  computer  around   workbench and  thw  hardware  works  great  with   it.

          • sloppyfingers Just Startin' 71 posts since
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            Oct 15, 2009 6:20 AM (in response to jedibandit1)
            Re: Drivers for Vista

            Oh no..That sux!

            I'm waiting for my variax 500 to come in (bought used)..I have Vista, and was I going to purchase Workbench..I have the xt-live as well..

            Furhermore, I thought that workbench came free with purchase, but then I realized that you need the hardware interface..All this is moot because I have Vista.

            Oh well, no sale from me.

             

            • amx05462 Power User 3,579 posts since
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              Oct 15, 2009 8:13 AM (in response to sloppyfingers)
              Re: Drivers for Vista

              if you have  the  xt  you should be  able to connect through it   and use  workbench  i believe  theres  64  bit drivers  for it to connect   if not   i think theres a  downloadable   software  upgrade  for it. as long  as the  xt  has a  usb connection.  if it does  you wont need the  hardware  just the  software.  the  software  runs  on the  64 bit  machine  but  you cant connect  to the  guitar  because of the  missing  driver  for the  hardware.    the  xt  eliminates  that.   personally  i think  there not  writing  the  driver  so they can sell the  more  expensive  hardware.   i think   thats a  big  mistake  and  will **** off people  who   already  bought the  hardware  not  knowing  this.

              • sloppyfingers Just Startin' 71 posts since
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                Oct 15, 2009 8:26 AM (in response to amx05462)
                Re: Drivers for Vista

                Okay kewl..thanks for the info..I think later I'll try my xt with workbench, even if I'm still awaiting my variax..I'm wondering if I can use the Xt live to load any customized tunings/ sound onto the variax's customized settings bank in the guitar itself  without always having to rely on the xt live to access these settings?

                I guess trial and error will tell me.

                • amx05462 Power User 3,579 posts since
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                  Oct 15, 2009 9:02 AM (in response to sloppyfingers)
                  Re: Drivers for Vista

                  more or less the  xt does  what it does  and   variax is the  same.    theres  quite a  bit of  manipulation  that can be done  with  workbench  model wise  like  stacking  pickups   changing  cap values  and  pot   values .  changing  pickups   i dont think you can save to the  guitar what   the  xt does  though .   as far as  workbench   it  will only   be a  connector to the  computer   the  same  as  the  workbench  hardware would  be.  its an independent  unit  though  as  far as the  programing  goes.  basicly  a  high  end  stomp box.

                   

                    i use a  vox  valvetronics  tone lab  and  probably could  get  the  connection  through  that to the computer but  the  workbench  hardware  is  the  esiest way to go.     the xt  is  just a waay around   the  64 bit problem

                   

                      btw  if you at some point  have pickup problems  in the  future  you may want to  look into  graph tech  pickups  there  much better.

                  • sloppyfingers Just Startin' 71 posts since
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                    Oct 15, 2009 11:42 AM (in response to amx05462)
                    Re: Drivers for Vista

                    well I connected my et live, but workbench won't recognize it..I'm suspecting that I need the variax plugged the first time??..Once I get it running, it will be a pain to have to pull ut my floorboard whenever I want to use workbench to perform editing..Anyways thanks for the info you have given me.

                    • amx05462 Power User 3,579 posts since
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                      Oct 15, 2009 3:27 PM (in response to sloppyfingers)
                      Re: Drivers for Vista

                      its not supposed to  recognise  the  xt.  think of  it  this  way ...  workbench  is   a pool of  water    the  variax  is  the  lawn.   xt is just the  hose  for  the  water to go through..    so   yes  you have to have  the  variax   connected  to the  xt   xt connected  to the  computer  .   it  works  but   its  a bit  more  dificult  than    workbench  and its  own  hardware.  the  computer  has  to recognise   the  xt    then  through it you make  contact   with  the  variax   to workbench.    life  would be  alot simpler   though if  line  6  would  write  that damn  usb driver.

                      • sloppyfingers Just Startin' 71 posts since
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                        Oct 15, 2009 3:52 PM (in response to amx05462)
                        Re: Drivers for Vista

                        Okay kewl..I'll just wait until the actual Variax comes in, and then everything will be good *thinking to hold that last  thought lol *

                         

                        Thanks again

                        • amx05462 Power User 3,579 posts since
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                          Oct 15, 2009 4:13 PM (in response to sloppyfingers)
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                          in the  mean time if you just want  to get used to it  set up workbench to  work offline  and  you can  check it out . everything will function  you just cant upload it  to the   guitar that isnt  there.

                          • sloppyfingers Just Startin' 71 posts since
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                            Oct 15, 2009 8:06 PM (in response to amx05462)
                            Re: Drivers for Vista

                            That's the problem..It won't even open up. Won't recoginize the pod..I can't even work on offline mode.I'll have to do more investigating.

                            • amx05462 Power User 3,579 posts since
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                              Oct 16, 2009 4:08 AM (in response to sloppyfingers)
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                              on the  first yellow  screen  that comes up   click on continue  on  the  next screen  the  large  white one   click on add   then you will get the  small white one   ive moved it to the  side in the  attatched  photo   theres a  tiny box  toard  the bottom  that says  off line  mode   click on that  and you should be in.  leave it to the  programmers  to make  things  difficult.  took me a  few  trys  to figure  this  out too

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          • amx05462 Power User 3,579 posts since
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            Oct 15, 2009 8:09 AM (in response to jedibandit1)
            Re: Drivers for Vista

            yeah if you have  the  computer  with xp  your going to like what you caan do  with  workbench.   check out    the  forum  posts  you will get alot of good  ideas  there.  if you can find your way to the  old forum   theres  alot of stuff there  too.  have  fun

  • d3drocks Just Startin' 86 posts since
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    Oct 26, 2009 1:17 PM (in response to jedibandit1)
    Re: Drivers for Vista

    if you dont have one of the pod live setups, your out of luck, and line6 couldnt care less about helping you, because your on 64 bit.

    • amx05462 Power User 3,579 posts since
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      Oct 26, 2009 1:27 PM (in response to d3drocks)
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      yes  id  like  to chime in on that  because  that does seem to be  the  case. kinda  makes you wonder  what they wont  care  about  in the  future  doesnt it ? have  youseen  the  new  apple  commercial  where  the  windows  guy  goes   back in time  through the  versions  and  says  you wont  have  the  trouble  with  this  like  last time.   i think  line  6  could  do a  commercial  that  says " after  weve  got  your  money...............  addyour  own  ending  .  mine  would  be    then  tough luck.  

       

                 any ideas?

      • amx05462 Power User 3,579 posts since
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        Oct 26, 2009 1:34 PM (in response to amx05462)
        Re: Drivers for Vista

        remember  the  seinfeld   episode  with  the  soup nazi.  that would  be  a  great commercial.  need  a  driver   too bad  NO DRIVER FOR YOU!!!!

         

        come  back  ten year

         

           or  how bout   a guy  with a  banner  behind him   that says  you havent  kissed  our  a#$@S   enough yet   . then he  can explane  why   theres  no support  for  64  bit   workbench.

         

            he  would  probably say  " to tell the  truth  we  just want  to sell you  something ...........   more  expensive"

         

          just my thoughts  on the  subject  at the  moment.

         

                           anyone  else  have  any  thoughts  on this ?

         

         

          i think  lewis  black  should  be  doing  this  commercial

  • japais Just Startin' 3 posts since
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    Oct 26, 2009 2:21 PM (in response to jedibandit1)
    Re: Drivers for Vista

    I have got a 600 and use it Workbench, Pod x3 live on a vista 64-bit laptop without any problems.

    • amx05462 Power User 3,579 posts since
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      Oct 26, 2009 2:26 PM (in response to japais)
      Re: Drivers for Vista

      if your  using it  through the  pod  you wouldnt   theres  64  bit  drivers  for  the  pod.

      • sloppyfingers Just Startin' 71 posts since
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        Oct 26, 2009 3:42 PM (in response to amx05462)
        Re: Drivers for Vista

        yup just got the digi  cable this weekend, and the work bench communicating to the variax is working fine thanks in part to myself having the Pod live xt already..I feel for anyone that has vista and just bought the interface though..Line6 should address this problem.

        • amx05462 Power User 3,579 posts since
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          Oct 26, 2009 3:53 PM (in response to sloppyfingers)
          Re: Drivers for Vista

          well ive been  chasing them  for  some time now  and it goes  back to the  old forum   and add  the  fact  that they have  outright  said  they have  no plans  to do a  thing  about it........ well i take  that as  a  hearty f$#k  y#u on there  part.  but  thats   just me .

           

           

              like ive  already said  what wont  work in the  future   . will they  have  this attitude still?

  • sloppyfingers Just Startin' 71 posts since
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    Nov 8, 2009 5:07 AM (in response to jedibandit1)
    Re: Drivers for Vista

    Okay. it's been a few weeks now, and although I can access workbench through my pod xt live, I'm finding it a freakin' pain to haul it out, just so I can change/load tunings on my variax..I have the guitar port for home use, and the xt is just for when I go out jamming, and is normally put away.

    Had Line6 simply addressed their driver issue, they would of got another sale off me because I would of purchased the hardware interface still.

    Whether they care or not, they are really hurting themselves sales wise.

    Another bone of contention is the fact that they un-apologetically don't make lefies on the variaxes..I lucked out finding a used 500 variax online, but I  would of bought an acoustic down the road. But that is for another topic.

    • amx05462 Power User 3,579 posts since
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      Nov 8, 2009 7:25 AM (in response to sloppyfingers)
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      your  right  but   in your case  you already  have  the  other  stuff  they  want  to sell  so the  workbench  hardware   is  the  extra   in  your  case  but  in  most cases  thats  the  start   and  then the next step  is a pod  or xt.

       

        as far as a  lefty acoustic.  i guess  they dont  feel  theres   enough  of  a  market   to be  worth  there   making  them.  the  variax  is  a  neche  guitar .  if  it  sold  like  a  strat  or a  les  paul.  they  wouldnt  be looking  to go to the  variax 2.  thats  not  to  take  away  from it though    and  yeah  i know  james  taylor  and  jo blow  from  idaho play one. but  the  bottom  line  is  its  foe  a certain group.  that is  the group  that would  like  to have  a  rack of  electrics  another  rack of  acoustics  and  a rack of  this  that and  the  other  but  that guy  works  for  a  living  so the  closest  he  gonna  get  is  a  variax.

       

                                         this   isnt  to say  its  not  a  nice  guitar  ...it is .  but you have to ask  yourself   given  the  choice  and  the   money  would  you  buy the  variax.  or would  you  buy the  real  thing.  its  really  the  same  question   with all the  big  names as well.  why  buy a  epiphone  when  you can  have  a  gibson.  why  have  a  mexican  strat  when  you can  have  an  american  standard   and  so  on.

       

        so  in  my opinion    what  arent  they  making  a  lefty....   because  as  it is   you dont  see  a  variax  of  any kind  in  most  guitar  stores.   and  leftys  as  a rule  of  any kind  tend  to sit  on the  shelf. or  rack. so  having  tryed  it  ( ive  seen  a  few oldr  ones)  they dont  consider  it  to be  worth  the  expense   of tooling  up  to cut  the  bodies  and  necks   and  reverse  the  electronics.

       

      ewre  there  acoustics  not  cutaway  it  would  be a  simple  job  to reverse  everything.  same  with  the  cut  on the  electric  body  were  it cut  like  an sg   instead  of  a  strat.  then   reversing  it  would  be  simple.

       

        change   out the  nut   and flip the ribbon   wire  in the  bridge  for the  electrics.  you have  a lefty  acoustic.  on the  hard  body ones    put  in  a lefty  trem   flip the  ribbon  wire  and  put the  controls  on the  other  side.

       

        an  easy  enough transplant  into  a  lefty  body .

       

         they  want  to be a dominant  guitar  maker  with  the  next one...  thats  probably  why   it will be  a  while  before  you see it .  they  brought  in  rich  renkin   and  hes  probablu  going  to  be  doing some  head  butting  to get things  on the  right  track....

       

      sorry   for being  a  bit  long  winded.

      • d3drocks Just Startin' 86 posts since
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        Nov 8, 2009 10:15 AM (in response to amx05462)
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        if they are looking into a variax 2, that kinda pisses me off, cause I just plunked down $1,090 canadian in september on my 600. im a student, and I almost NEVER come accross that kind of money. I'm becoming increasingly aggrivated by line6 these days. the blatant ignoring of driver issues (which EVERY OTHER company would have fixed), and the horrible and inefficient ASIO support for X3 drives me insane. im feeling more like getting a roland gr-20 or (saving a **** ton for) a vg-99 and foregetting my variax and pod.

        • amx05462 Power User 3,579 posts since
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          Nov 8, 2009 10:38 AM (in response to d3drocks)
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          well... there  was  quite  a  bit of  discusion  on the vax 2.  100 + pages  it  was  on this  web  site  for  quite  a while.

           

            i think  there still in the  development  stage  so its  gonna  be  a  while  before you see one.  and  in my opinion  it  will  have  to be  in the  2 grand  price  range.  just  my opinion on that though  i havent  heard   anything.

           

             as  far as  roland  goes  you  wont get the  same   guitar  emulation  you get  with  a  variax.  i have  a gr 30 .   while  its  nice   its  not the  same.

           

             although  the   gr 20  paired  with  the  variax  is  interesting  enough  that  im  including  it  in  my  build..  you do know  you can  pop a   perminant   gk  pickup  on to your  variax  for   around  150 bucks   that will  work   with  the  gr 20  and  vg 99.

          • d3drocks Just Startin' 86 posts since
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            Nov 8, 2009 5:46 PM (in response to amx05462)
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            hey dude, how would I go about perminately putting one of those pickups in my variax? I was gunna stick it on my jackson rhoads V when I had managed to save the cash up, but if I can do that, even better. tho, the roland gr-20 doesnt have vista 64 drivers as well, does it? I believe tho that I can just get midi>usb cables and it should work. its also an expensive device here. nearly $1,000. that could be more worth it for me, as i've almost completely given up rock and gone into the house and trance scene. I'm not so good on keys, but a guitar as a midi device could be just what I need. I already have a VST to do this, but its monophonic only.

            • amx05462 Power User 3,579 posts since
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              Nov 9, 2009 2:39 AM (in response to d3drocks)
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              the  attatched  photo  is  of  the  roland  gt  kit. pickup  and  controls.   you can  go to there  web   site  for  the  actual  instalation   instructions.   your  going  to have  to drill  a  hole    near  the  outputs   for  the  variax  for the  roland  output.  the  pickup goes  right at  the  end  of  the  bridge  plate.    the  board  in the  picture  looks  bigger  than  it is.  theres  also  the  up  and  down  controls  to  install  so you  can  change  your  program  in the  gr  20.    i bought  my  gr 30  off  ebay   cheap.    the  pickup  kit is  better  because  everything  will be   inside  the  guitar .  dont  know  if you use  a battery pack or  a  9 volt  battery  but    you should  be  able  to  put  two  9vs  side  by side  in the  compartment  that  exists.. .

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              • d3drocks Just Startin' 86 posts since
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                Nov 9, 2009 11:32 AM (in response to amx05462)
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                eek, I dont think I'll go that route lol. i dont feel comfortable opening up my guitar for that much stuff. I've only ever opened up my crappy ibanez to fix some basic wiring stuff. will probably be easier to just stick one right near the bridge on my jackson. this is what it is: http://es.woodbrass.com/images/woodbrass/JACKSON+JS30RR+BK.JPG

                it should fit, right? ive never used one of rolands pickups before.

                • amx05462 Power User 3,579 posts since
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                  Nov 9, 2009 1:31 PM (in response to d3drocks)
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                  well you can  always  go this  route.   this  is  the  gk3  pickup.  it works  the  same  but  on  drilling.  you can  either  attatch  it  with  velcro  or  two screws.   and  the  pickup  slips  under  the  strings    either  double  sided  tape  or  two  screws.   i have  one  and  it  works   well   i just  dont  like  that  wire.    the  one  pictured  has  a  bracket  for  the  control.  that would  eliminate  the   velcro. or  the  two screws  there  .  cost  about  the  same  works  the  same.   if  you  want  to use  that gr 20.

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