Oct 14, 2009 1:30 PM
Drivers for Vista
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I bought a 600 and variax workbench. I have vista so the software that came with it wouldn't work. I got everything except the drivers to download from your site. Every time I try to download the driver it still doesn't see my usb connection. Any Ideas?
if your version of vista is 64 bit then workbench will not work. it needs a nonexistant 64 bit usb driver. dont hold your breath . line 6 has no plans of writing this driver any time soon if ever
Yep it is and that sucks. Thanks for the info.
i would put in a request for the driver . lots of other people have done that. one more couldnt hurt.
they ( sell) other equipment you can connect with i think pod xt or something. personally i refuse to buy that or anything else . who knows what they will stop support for in the future but i just thought you would like to know that there are other options. also if you still have an xp computer around workbench and thw hardware works great with it.
I'll do that. And I've got an old junker that I can use too. thanks again.
Oh no..That sux!
I'm waiting for my variax 500 to come in (bought used)..I have Vista, and was I going to purchase Workbench..I have the xt-live as well..
Furhermore, I thought that workbench came free with purchase, but then I realized that you need the hardware interface..All this is moot because I have Vista.
Oh well, no sale from me.
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if you have the xt you should be able to connect through it and use workbench i believe theres 64 bit drivers for it to connect if not i think theres a downloadable software upgrade for it. as long as the xt has a usb connection. if it does you wont need the hardware just the software. the software runs on the 64 bit machine but you cant connect to the guitar because of the missing driver for the hardware. the xt eliminates that. personally i think there not writing the driver so they can sell the more expensive hardware. i think thats a big mistake and will **** off people who already bought the hardware not knowing this.
Okay kewl..thanks for the info..I think later I'll try my xt with workbench, even if I'm still awaiting my variax..I'm wondering if I can use the Xt live to load any customized tunings/ sound onto the variax's customized settings bank in the guitar itself without always having to rely on the xt live to access these settings?
I guess trial and error will tell me.
more or less the xt does what it does and variax is the same. theres quite a bit of manipulation that can be done with workbench model wise like stacking pickups changing cap values and pot values . changing pickups i dont think you can save to the guitar what the xt does though . as far as workbench it will only be a connector to the computer the same as the workbench hardware would be. its an independent unit though as far as the programing goes. basicly a high end stomp box.
i use a vox valvetronics tone lab and probably could get the connection through that to the computer but the workbench hardware is the esiest way to go. the xt is just a waay around the 64 bit problem
btw if you at some point have pickup problems in the future you may want to look into graph tech pickups there much better.
well I connected my et live, but workbench won't recognize it..I'm suspecting that I need the variax plugged the first time??..Once I get it running, it will be a pain to have to pull ut my floorboard whenever I want to use workbench to perform editing..Anyways thanks for the info you have given me.
its not supposed to recognise the xt. think of it this way ... workbench is a pool of water the variax is the lawn. xt is just the hose for the water to go through.. so yes you have to have the variax connected to the xt xt connected to the computer . it works but its a bit more dificult than workbench and its own hardware. the computer has to recognise the xt then through it you make contact with the variax to workbench. life would be alot simpler though if line 6 would write that damn usb driver. ![]()
Okay kewl..I'll just wait until the actual Variax comes in, and then everything will be good *thinking to hold that last thought lol *
Thanks again
in the mean time if you just want to get used to it set up workbench to work offline and you can check it out . everything will function you just cant upload it to the guitar that isnt there.
That's the problem..It won't even open up. Won't recoginize the pod..I can't even work on offline mode.I'll have to do more investigating.
on the first yellow screen that comes up click on continue on the next screen the large white one click on add then you will get the small white one ive moved it to the side in the attatched photo theres a tiny box toard the bottom that says off line mode click on that and you should be in. leave it to the programmers to make things difficult. took me a few trys to figure this out too ![]()
Kewl..Got it to work in Offline mode! thanks.
Now i can get familiar with the program before my guitar comes in..I guess I will have the option of either loading the pres-sets on the pod, or the variax itself?
i dont know that you can load them to the pod workbench is for the variax only. remember the pod is just a connection in this case
okay thanks again for all your info and help!
yeah if you have the computer with xp your going to like what you caan do with workbench. check out the forum posts you will get alot of good ideas there. if you can find your way to the old forum theres alot of stuff there too. have fun ![]()
if you dont have one of the pod live setups, your out of luck, and line6 couldnt care less about helping you, because your on 64 bit.
yes id like to chime in on that because that does seem to be the case. kinda makes you wonder what they wont care about in the future doesnt it ? have youseen the new apple commercial where the windows guy goes back in time through the versions and says you wont have the trouble with this like last time. i think line 6 could do a commercial that says " after weve got your money............... addyour own ending . mine would be then tough luck.
any ideas?
remember the seinfeld episode with the soup nazi. that would be a great commercial. need a driver too bad NO DRIVER FOR YOU!!!!
come back ten year
or how bout a guy with a banner behind him that says you havent kissed our a#$@S enough yet . then he can explane why theres no support for 64 bit workbench.
he would probably say " to tell the truth we just want to sell you something ........... more expensive"
just my thoughts on the subject at the moment.
anyone else have any thoughts on this ?
i think lewis black should be doing this commercial
I have got a 600 and use it Workbench, Pod x3 live on a vista 64-bit laptop without any problems.
if your using it through the pod you wouldnt theres 64 bit drivers for the pod.
yup just got the digi cable this weekend, and the work bench communicating to the variax is working fine thanks in part to myself having the Pod live xt already..I feel for anyone that has vista and just bought the interface though..Line6 should address this problem.
well ive been chasing them for some time now and it goes back to the old forum and add the fact that they have outright said they have no plans to do a thing about it........ well i take that as a hearty f$#k y#u on there part. but thats just me .
like ive already said what wont work in the future . will they have this attitude still?
It's not just you who is annoyed by Line6's attitude to their customers.
They lost a sale for a Variax Acoustic 700 and amp by me because of their poor support.
It is a shame they have such a poor reputation.
maybe so but there aparently happy with the ammount of business that there doing ... even in this recession.
Okay. it's been a few weeks now, and although I can access workbench through my pod xt live, I'm finding it a freakin' pain to haul it out, just so I can change/load tunings on my variax..I have the guitar port for home use, and the xt is just for when I go out jamming, and is normally put away.
Had Line6 simply addressed their driver issue, they would of got another sale off me because I would of purchased the hardware interface still.
Whether they care or not, they are really hurting themselves sales wise.
Another bone of contention is the fact that they un-apologetically don't make lefies on the variaxes..I lucked out finding a used 500 variax online, but I would of bought an acoustic down the road. But that is for another topic.
your right but in your case you already have the other stuff they want to sell so the workbench hardware is the extra in your case but in most cases thats the start and then the next step is a pod or xt.
as far as a lefty acoustic. i guess they dont feel theres enough of a market to be worth there making them. the variax is a neche guitar . if it sold like a strat or a les paul. they wouldnt be looking to go to the variax 2. thats not to take away from it though and yeah i know james taylor and jo blow from idaho play one. but the bottom line is its foe a certain group. that is the group that would like to have a rack of electrics another rack of acoustics and a rack of this that and the other but that guy works for a living so the closest he gonna get is a variax.
this isnt to say its not a nice guitar ...it is . but you have to ask yourself given the choice and the money would you buy the variax. or would you buy the real thing. its really the same question with all the big names as well. why buy a epiphone when you can have a gibson. why have a mexican strat when you can have an american standard and so on.
so in my opinion what arent they making a lefty.... because as it is you dont see a variax of any kind in most guitar stores. and leftys as a rule of any kind tend to sit on the shelf. or rack. so having tryed it ( ive seen a few oldr ones) they dont consider it to be worth the expense of tooling up to cut the bodies and necks and reverse the electronics.
ewre there acoustics not cutaway it would be a simple job to reverse everything. same with the cut on the electric body were it cut like an sg instead of a strat. then reversing it would be simple.
change out the nut and flip the ribbon wire in the bridge for the electrics. you have a lefty acoustic. on the hard body ones put in a lefty trem flip the ribbon wire and put the controls on the other side.
an easy enough transplant into a lefty body .
they want to be a dominant guitar maker with the next one... thats probably why it will be a while before you see it . they brought in rich renkin and hes probablu going to be doing some head butting to get things on the right track....
sorry for being a bit long winded.
if they are looking into a variax 2, that kinda pisses me off, cause I just plunked down $1,090 canadian in september on my 600. im a student, and I almost NEVER come accross that kind of money. I'm becoming increasingly aggrivated by line6 these days. the blatant ignoring of driver issues (which EVERY OTHER company would have fixed), and the horrible and inefficient ASIO support for X3 drives me insane. im feeling more like getting a roland gr-20 or (saving a **** ton for) a vg-99 and foregetting my variax and pod.
well... there was quite a bit of discusion on the vax 2. 100 + pages it was on this web site for quite a while.
i think there still in the development stage so its gonna be a while before you see one. and in my opinion it will have to be in the 2 grand price range. just my opinion on that though i havent heard anything.
as far as roland goes you wont get the same guitar emulation you get with a variax. i have a gr 30 . while its nice its not the same.
although the gr 20 paired with the variax is interesting enough that im including it in my build.. you do know you can pop a perminant gk pickup on to your variax for around 150 bucks that will work with the gr 20 and vg 99.
hey dude, how would I go about perminately putting one of those pickups in my variax? I was gunna stick it on my jackson rhoads V when I had managed to save the cash up, but if I can do that, even better. tho, the roland gr-20 doesnt have vista 64 drivers as well, does it? I believe tho that I can just get midi>usb cables and it should work. its also an expensive device here. nearly $1,000. that could be more worth it for me, as i've almost completely given up rock and gone into the house and trance scene. I'm not so good on keys, but a guitar as a midi device could be just what I need. I already have a VST to do this, but its monophonic only.
the attatched photo is of the roland gt kit. pickup and controls. you can go to there web site for the actual instalation instructions. your going to have to drill a hole near the outputs for the variax for the roland output. the pickup goes right at the end of the bridge plate. the board in the picture looks bigger than it is. theres also the up and down controls to install so you can change your program in the gr 20. i bought my gr 30 off ebay cheap. the pickup kit is better because everything will be inside the guitar . dont know if you use a battery pack or a 9 volt battery but you should be able to put two 9vs side by side in the compartment that exists.. .
eek, I dont think I'll go that route lol. i dont feel comfortable opening up my guitar for that much stuff. I've only ever opened up my crappy ibanez to fix some basic wiring stuff. will probably be easier to just stick one right near the bridge on my jackson. this is what it is: http://es.woodbrass.com/images/woodbrass/JACKSON+JS30RR+BK.JPG
it should fit, right? ive never used one of rolands pickups before.
well you can always go this route. this is the gk3 pickup. it works the same but on drilling. you can either attatch it with velcro or two screws. and the pickup slips under the strings either double sided tape or two screws. i have one and it works well i just dont like that wire. the one pictured has a bracket for the control. that would eliminate the velcro. or the two screws there . cost about the same works the same. if you want to use that gr 20.
thanks. I think thats the one I'll go for.
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