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satner_0384 Just Startin'
satner_0384
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Nov 23, 2007
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Nov 18, 2009 9:03 AM

Pre or Post on Modulation and Delay?

Hi,

 

I have a POD XT Live and before I go into my question I'd like to give you a quick run of my setup:

 

Guitar: Jackson PC1

FX: POD XT Live [Main Set-up in POD:  Noise Gate - Red Comp - Chorus - Mesa Triple Rectifier - Delay and Reverb (low in the mix).No compression, EQ or Wah.]

Amp: Tube Works Tube Driver TD752 Head

Cab: 4x12 Crate

 

I hooked up my POD via the effects return on my amp.  So I'm using the head's solid state as a power amp and get my sound via the POD Modulation and so forth.  My MODULATION and DELAY are routed "pre" in the POD.

 

I have two basic questions:

1. Are the "stomp", "mod" and "delay" effects patched in the POD as they would be using pedals in an effects loop? Or are they patched in front of the amp?

2. In your opinion, where is the best sound attainable - pre or post on Mod and Delay?

 

All opinions and suggestions are welcome.

Tags: amp, guitar, podxt
  • thirdnostril Just Startin'
    thirdnostril
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    Feb 5, 2007
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    Nov 18, 2009 12:05 PM (in response to satner_0384)
    Re: Pre or Post on Modulation and Delay?

    I don't know about #1, but in general, I've had the best results using compression/noise gate (if used) first in the chain, then any distortion/overdrive (or amp section or amp simulator), then any modulation (chorus/phaser/flange/tremolo/vibrato, etc.), then reverb and/or delay, and make a graphic EQ the last step in the chain. So I guess my answer is post.

  • pbear5 Just Startin'
    pbear5
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    Jan 25, 2007
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    Nov 18, 2009 1:04 PM (in response to satner_0384)
    Re: Pre or Post on Modulation and Delay?

    #1: the Stomps are always Stomps--in front of the amp.  I believe the choices for Mod & Delay are really 'in front of the amp' like a stomp or like an Aux effect in a mixer rather than in an effects loop.  i say this because they come in post compressor which is post microphone.  because it's all virtual i don't know that the specifics really matter that much but i believe the major difference between the two would be whether the effected signal goes through the cab/mic model or not.  to me it sounds like it's the mic'd signal that is being processed.

     

    #2: most of my Mods, Delays and Reverbs are used in POST mode so, i guess, that's my preference.  to me it tends to sound less muddy, less like an effect and more like an ambient enhancement.  There are times when I want an effect for effects sake then i might use something Pre.

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