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Francescofalc Just Startin'
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Nov 2, 2009 12:57 PM

Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

Well after a bit of work i realized this:

1) the M13 can work as a Midi Foot Controller

2) it works going on scene set up, at that point if u switch scene by scene than some other effect connected via midi change his preset till number 12

3) the limit it is u can have only 12 switch possibilities because at same time u can have only 12 scene viewable, u can change folder only going on knobs but in a live situation its not handable ofc, so the story of 48 scene its true only considering them as in studio use, (i have not understood how to change solder only going by foot switchs)

4) so if i have understood well i can use 12 scene at same time, selecting it the midi controller give at someother midi unit connected the right program till n.12 meantime u can arrange all the effects u want on the M13

 

Now a big tip for LINE6, please in the next firmware update create a way to control all the 48 scenes using the foot switches of M13 or create a new way to change folder.

Could be useful a function to go next, scene by scene and reverse.

 

If this function exists already than help me to find it

 

 

Tags: controller, midi, foot, m13
  • moonoku Just Startin'
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    Nov 2, 2009 7:04 PM (in response to Francescofalc)
    Re: Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

    yes, by God recognize already that line 6, we are many users who ask! thanks

     

    Now a big tip for LINE6, please in the next firmware update create a way to control all the 48 scenes using the foot switches of M13 or create a new way to change folder. Could be useful a function to go next, scene by scene and reverse.

     

    If this function exists already than help me to

  • Line6RichRenken Product Dev
    Line6RichRenken
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    Nov 3, 2009 1:19 AM (in response to Francescofalc)
    Re: Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

    Now a big tip for LINE6, please in the next firmware update create a way to control all the 48 scenes using the foot switches of M13 or create a new way to change folder.

    Could be useful a function to go next, scene by scene and reverse.

     

     

    This will not happen on the M13 ever. I may need to take the 36 extra scenes away if I get this request to many times. The extra scenes are mostly for guys who want to put the M13 on a rack shelf and control it and their amps with say, a ground control. I was going to make the 48 scenes only accessible via Midi but thought that the guy who uses M13 stand alone would appreciate the extra 36 scenes even though changing to them would mean them bending down a couple times in a set to change folders. If too many get dismayed or upset with having to bend over I will solve it by taking them away except via midi. We spent a good amount of time thinking of alternate scene modes that may be able to do this and at the end of the day, we want the M13 as super easy and what you see is what you get as possible. So this was the most simple way to add a cool function to the unit without making it complicated. Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts. I knew some guys would want a better way to change the folder and knew I would have to say know but I was confident that they would still be glad for the extra scenes.

    • Francescofalc Just Startin'
      Francescofalc
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      Nov 3, 2009 4:34 AM (in response to Line6RichRenken)
      Re: Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

      Well

      thanks for your reply but now i have another question

      If your theory about the use of M13 in a Rack (not on the ground as controller) is right, because it's of course, which kind of foot controller i could use to have all effects controlled by that?

      There is one compatible from the Line6 offer?

      Thanks

    • phil_m Expert Line 6 User
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      Nov 3, 2009 6:00 AM (in response to Line6RichRenken)
      Re: Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

      I guess no good deed goes unpunished, huh, Rich?

       

      Personally, I haven't even really gotten to take advantage of the extra scenes.  I guess it depends on how you use it the M13.  If you use it only in latch scene mode and truly treat a scene like a preset, then it would be nice to have access to all 48 scenes just by using the stomp switches alone in some way.  However, even have 12 scenes available to you any, that gives you a lot of flexibility.  It doesn't seem too bad to have to bend down to turn the knob, really.  I remember when I had to bend over to turn the knobs of my Tubescreamer or other pedal between songs...   I'd have a little cheat sheet showing knob positions and such.  Man, how quickly we get spoiled.

    • kruzty Just Startin'
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      Nov 3, 2009 6:17 AM (in response to Line6RichRenken)
      Re: Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

      That seems like a bit harsh.  How about "if you don't want to change to other folders that way, don't use them?"  Are you really going to take away features just because some people complain about them?  I guess if you use the extra scenes (or possibly other features that get complaints), you should be careful before doing any more updates...

      • Line6RichRenken Product Dev
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        Nov 12, 2009 1:23 AM (in response to kruzty)
        Re: Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

        kruzty wrote:

         

        That seems like a bit harsh.  How about "if you don't want to change to other folders that way, don't use them?"  Are you really going to take away features just because some people complain about them?  I guess if you use the extra scenes (or possibly other features that get complaints), you should be careful before doing any more updates...

         

        Oh of course not. I was just being goofy. Like a Dad.

         

        I really had a couple guys at work say, "if you can't make it work elegantly with the switches, do not give the non midi guys the 4 folders".

         

        I said, no. If I was given the choice of 48 scenes as it works now for free or just the 12, I would pick the 48.

         

        So since I was joking, I don't have to be careful. I love it all. If I can't see a current product having a certain feature, I think, hhhmmmm, where could that feature show up?

    • moonoku Just Startin'
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      Nov 3, 2009 7:27 AM (in response to Line6RichRenken)
      Re: Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

      hi, to use the m13 rack, and have and change of 48 scenes available at all times as a preset, midi controller that you recommend? ground control? or other?

       

      thank you very much!

    • Circle99 Just Startin'
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      Nov 10, 2009 4:18 PM (in response to Line6RichRenken)
      Re: Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

      "I may need to take the 36 extra scenes away if I get this request to many times."

       

      Wow - I sure am surprised to see a response like this from a product support manager.  Especially for a perfectly reasonable request.

       

      Sounds like a parent to a child: "if you don't quit bugging me, I will take away your toys".

       

      Line6Renken, I suggest that before you respond to a post that irks you:  step back and have someone read it before posting.  Responses like this can only alienate current and future customers.  It will never win any new ones.

      • Francescofalc Just Startin'
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        Nov 10, 2009 10:22 PM (in response to Circle99)
        Re: Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

        well let me say i'm in the same opinion

         

        i'm disappointed about this company policy expecially considering that giving more stability in foot controlling switching by scenes, using foots, it will be a new good reason to purchase a M13. In a unique object you will have a great effect pedalboard and a foot controller, why not!

        Good Luck with your products to be honest i'm thinking to re sell it cause this problem.

        Regards

        • moonoku Just Startin'
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          Nov 10, 2009 11:19 PM (in response to Francescofalc)
          Re: Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

          line 6! no costing them! nothing ......... I love my m13 !

           

          m13 will change the world of pedals! there will be a new update! with this fix .... only god knows!

          • Circle99 Just Startin'
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            Nov 11, 2009 5:25 AM (in response to moonoku)
            Re: Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

            "line 6! no costing them! nothing ......... I love my m13 !"

             

            Unfortunately, this is not true.  It does cost to implement a new feature.  I has to be spec'ed, coded,  unit tested, system tested, then distributed.  This is not free. Just like every company, I am sure they add new features for one of two reasons (1) to fix defects, (2) to win potential new customers over to their product. If the cost of implementing a new feature does not ultimately result in more revenue (either short term or long term), I suspect it would not be implemented. This is a company after all, who is trying to make money.  If they dont make money, they wont be in business.

             

            Personally, I am appreciative that they did put in a lot of new features since the first release.  I liked that they bumped it up to 48 scenes.

             

            At first I had a hard time getting my head around scenes.  I thought, "why did they not make patches, just like everyone else?".  Then I started getting use to it, and realized, they are like patches.  12 patches (scenes) in 4 banks (folders), with the added bonus that each effect in the patch can have three flavors.  What we are asking for the ability to switch "banks" (i.e. folders) with a midi controller.  This would make it operate better live, just like other foot programmable devices, GT10, RP1000, Nova, etc.

             

            I am a tone snob.  All my tone buddies are appalled that I purchased a line6 pedal board. But, I did not buy it for the tone, although they are pretty good.  THE biggest reason I purchased the unit is because of the convience of scenes, and recalling settings.  I compromised some of my boutique pedal tone for the convienience of pressing a footswitch to instantly go from tele twang to 70s crunch, to EVH tone (although I have to switch guitars!).  Adding a midi controller to switch scene folders would just make it that much better for me, and perhaps other customers like me.

            • Line6RichRenken Product Dev
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              Nov 12, 2009 1:38 AM (in response to Circle99)
              Re: Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

              d1camero wrote:

               

              "line 6! no costing them! nothing ......... I love my m13 !"

               

              Unfortunately, this is not true.  It does cost to implement a new feature.  I has to be spec'ed, coded,  unit tested, system tested, then distributed.  This is not free. Just like every company, I am sure they add new features for one of two reasons (1) to fix defects, (2) to win potential new customers over to their product. If the cost of implementing a new feature does not ultimately result in more revenue (either short term or long term), I suspect it would not be implemented. This is a company after all, who is trying to make money.  If they dont make money, they wont be in business.

               

              Personally, I am appreciative that they did put in a lot of new features since the first release.  I liked that they bumped it up to 48 scenes.

               

              At first I had a hard time getting my head around scenes.  I thought, "why did they not make patches, just like everyone else?".  Then I started getting use to it, and realized, they are like patches.  12 patches (scenes) in 4 banks (folders), with the added bonus that each effect in the patch can have three flavors.  What we are asking for the ability to switch "banks" (i.e. folders) with a midi controller.  This would make it operate better live, just like other foot programmable devices, GT10, RP1000, Nova, etc.

               

              I am a tone snob.  All my tone buddies are appalled that I purchased a line6 pedal board. But, I did not buy it for the tone, although they are pretty good.  THE biggest reason I purchased the unit is because of the convience of scenes, and recalling settings.  I compromised some of my boutique pedal tone for the convienience of pressing a footswitch to instantly go from tele twang to 70s crunch, to EVH tone (although I have to switch guitars!).  Adding a midi controller to switch scene folders would just make it that much better for me, and perhaps other customers like me.

              Well said my good man. But also another reason to get cool updates out as much as possible for free? Good will with existing owners. Why? Word of Mouth! I just purchased the Droid by Verizon and I am stoked, it does all that I had hoped for and I am sure there will be some cool updates that will make me talk about it more.

        • Line6RichRenken Product Dev
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          Nov 12, 2009 1:33 AM (in response to Francescofalc)
          Re: Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

          Francescofalc wrote:

           

          well let me say i'm in the same opinion

           

          i'm disappointed about this company policy expecially considering that giving more stability in foot controlling switching by scenes, using foots, it will be a new good reason to purchase a M13. In a unique object you will have a great effect pedalboard and a foot controller, why not!

          Good Luck with your products to be honest i'm thinking to re sell it cause this problem.

          Regards

          It will not have a way to get to the 4 folders except to bend down and switch it. So if it does not work for you then the M13 before the update when it was just 12 scenes wouldn't have worked for you anyway. Right? So I really threw in the other 36 scenes for you guys for free and for the Top 40 guys to have more ability to have "presets" on the fly.

           

          I wish you luck in finding something that works for you. There is lots of great gear out there.

           

          Sorry again that I was joking with the regulars. I shall be more careful in the future. Thank you for taking your time to post, I appreciate it.

      • ignatius Just Startin'
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        Nov 11, 2009 5:38 AM (in response to Circle99)
        Re: Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

        Guys,

         

        It's clear that Rich was joking - where's your sense of humor???

         

        I have an M9.  When I first got it I sort of felt the same way, that it would be a giant pain to switch scenes by bending over.  But even though my M9 has only six scenes per folder, I'm finding that the first folder meets most of my needs.  I use a second scene folder for stuff I only need occasionally, and as such it's really no big deal at all to bend over and hit the knob to access the other folder(s).  I think it's a great option that they they added.

         

        Anyway.....Rich - I got your joke.

        • Circle99 Just Startin'
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          Nov 11, 2009 5:40 AM (in response to ignatius)
          Re: Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

          Wow, strange sense of humor.  It comes across as defensive and tired of listening to customers requesting a new feature.  Most people, when posting a sarcastic joke usually put a smiley.

          • Line6RichRenken Product Dev
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            Nov 12, 2009 1:42 AM (in response to Circle99)
            Re: Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

            d1camero wrote:

             

            Wow, strange sense of humor.  It comes across as defensive and tired of listening to customers requesting a new feature.  Most people, when posting a sarcastic joke usually put a smiley.

            Honestly and for sure, I was just joking. Guys here who know me know that I never get tired of hearing customer's requests for new features and I am never defensive. Sorry again.

        • Line6RichRenken Product Dev
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          Nov 12, 2009 1:40 AM (in response to ignatius)
          Re: Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

          ignatius wrote:

           

          Guys,

           

          It's clear that Rich was joking - where's your sense of humor???

           

          I have an M9.  When I first got it I sort of felt the same way, that it would be a giant pain to switch scenes by bending over.  But even though my M9 has only six scenes per folder, I'm finding that the first folder meets most of my needs.  I use a second scene folder for stuff I only need occasionally, and as such it's really no big deal at all to bend over and hit the knob to access the other folder(s).  I think it's a great option that they they added.

           

          Anyway.....Rich - I got your joke.

          Whew....... I am glad someone got it. But still, I will be more careful. I care more about great customer advocacy and good will than my ability to crack a good joke.

      • phil_m Expert Line 6 User
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        Nov 11, 2009 5:41 AM (in response to Circle99)
        Re: Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

        From what I've seen of Rich around these forums, I think you may be misreading the intended tone of his statement.  I don't believe he was truly threatening to take away the scenes, but rather just joking a bit.  From what I've seen and read here, Rich is by no means a mean-spirited guy.

         

        I have to say that it would be a bit frustrating to add a bunch of functionality for free than still have people come and whine about it not going far enough.

         

        If a person really wants to have access to all 48 scenes via their feet, it really isn't that big of a deal to get a little MIDI controller like the MIDI Mouse or something to send the appropriate PC messages.

        • moonoku Just Startin'
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          Nov 11, 2009 6:33 AM (in response to phil_m)
          Re: Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

          many who sincerely ask us! would have to be rich! is very ugly duck in concert to change the folders!

           

          is very bad not professional! so good that a paragraph is missing this option, so simple!

           

          I am a professional musician and I have many concerts where I never had to bend down, I'm a singer and guitarist and I thickens!

           

                                                                                              

          • phil_m Expert Line 6 User
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            Nov 11, 2009 6:40 AM (in response to moonoku)
            Re: Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

            Bending over to adjust an effect is unprofessional?  I've seen all sorts of professional guitarists do that.  With 12 scenes available to you immediately, it's not like you would have to change folders all that often either.  As I said before, if it's that big of deal to you just get this.  I see no value in continuing to ask for something we've already been given an answer.  I also think it would be nice to have all 48 scenes available just from the switches currently on the M13, but if it's just going to happen, I just have to accept it and move on.

          • Line6RichRenken Product Dev
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            Nov 12, 2009 1:49 AM (in response to moonoku)
            Re: Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

            moonoku wrote:

             

            many who sincerely ask us! would have to be rich! is very ugly duck in concert to change the folders!

             

            is very bad not professional! so good that a paragraph is missing this option, so simple!

             

            I am a professional musician and I have many concerts where I never had to bend down, I'm a singer and guitarist and I thickens!

             

                                                                                                

            I know it is not very elegant. Honestly, do you wish it didn't include the 3 new folders? How long have you owned your M13?

            • moonoku Just Startin'
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              Nov 12, 2009 9:19 AM (in response to Line6RichRenken)
              Re: Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

              HI,

               

              1) - no, just say that if a m13 next update may include changing folders with my feet,

               

              2) - I M13 since the 2.1 update came out, their quality and use of 48 preset scenes .

               

              finally, this is a forum to discuss ideas and improve the M13 along the line 6 and users do not intend to release anything but add more conditions on the M13 and change with the feet of the folders is a good thing.

               

              I said that is all that would be missing the m13 to be perfect!

               

              I'm with my m13 recently but that does not mean you can not comment on some changes!     the m13 is excellent and plays a large role in my band! I am very happy with it.

               

              has no idea when they can get another update? or if I can buy more effects models?

               

               

              Thanks for everything! line 6

              • Line6RichRenken Product Dev
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                Nov 17, 2009 1:21 AM (in response to moonoku)
                Re: Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

                No problem, thank you!!

                • 705dude Just Startin'
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                  Dec 1, 2009 2:07 PM (in response to Line6RichRenken)
                  Re: Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

                  I own a Marshall JVM410H and have an M13 on the way, just ordered it lastnight.  I've been doing some reading in the manuals for the M13 and I think I have a grasp on what it can do and what features it has.  But I do have a question, hopefully someone can answer it.

                   

                  What I plan on doing with this unit is use it as a MIDI foot controller so that I can call up the different channels (clean, crunch, od1, od2) on my amp, as well as use the M13 for what it was especially designed for..effects.  I plan on using the MIDI to call up my amp channels though the scenes (latch mode).  This way, when I call up for example scene 1 (amp crunch channel), in this scene I would have crunch, with delay with the tap of one switch.  Then I could go to scene 2 (amp clean channel), and in this scene have a clean tone with a chorus all with one tap of a switch, then go back to scene 1 again to get my crunch and delay back, again with one tap of a switch. So in other words, there would be no need to do any tap dancing while live on stage.  Each scene could be named as they are......1 crunch/delay or 2 clean/chorus, etc..

                   

                  So this is what and how I plan on using this pedal, now back to my question, has anyone done this with any success, I hope so, because this is why I ordered it, and if so, what are the steps on setting this up so that my amp channels can be called up via MIDI (PC messages) from the M13.  I know it has been done, but just not sure how to approach it.

                   

                  I am thinking that I would first of all be in a current scene.  Then I would have to select one of the 12 foot switches in that scene and basically remove that respective FX......( this is what I am unsure of ), then I would have to select the desired amp channel on my amp and press the MIDI programm button on my amp so that the 2 would synch?   Then whenever I would go back to this scene in latch mode it would call up that chammel on my amp....?

                   

                  I hope this is clear, and someone can help me from this point on.  I have a show booked on Boxing day and would like to have this all sorted out for the show, or else I'll be playing with my Floor Pod Plus and using amp modeling patches through my clean channel on my amp, as I've been doing....trying to get away from this.....I'd like to use the gain on the amp instead now...i am also trying to stay away from a rack unit as well, and this is why I've chosen the M13 (built in effects and MIDI foot controller....all in one package type deal.

        • Line6RichRenken Product Dev
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          Nov 12, 2009 1:47 AM (in response to phil_m)
          Re: Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

          phil_m wrote:

           

          From what I've seen of Rich around these forums, I think you may be misreading the intended tone of his statement.  I don't believe he was truly threatening to take away the scenes, but rather just joking a bit.  From what I've seen and read here, Rich is by no means a mean-spirited guy.

           

          I have to say that it would be a bit frustrating to add a bunch of functionality for free than still have people come and whine about it not going far enough.

           

          If a person really wants to have access to all 48 scenes via their feet, it really isn't that big of a deal to get a little MIDI controller like the MIDI Mouse or something to send the appropriate PC messages.

          Thanks Phil.

           

          It would have been easy to just say that you get the 48 scenes via midi and leave it at that. No one would complain, and I would say that it was about simplicity but I just keep thinking about guys who do Top 40 and guys who play at church or guys who play in multiple situations enjoying the ability to have more scenes. I didn't want to get all "NO SOUP FOR YOU" about this request, but it won't ever be implemented, we thought of a few way to maybe do it and it just made it complicated and weird. So it seemed real easy to just bend over a couple times a night and have way more functionality.

      • Line6RichRenken Product Dev
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        Nov 12, 2009 1:29 AM (in response to Circle99)
        Re: Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

        d1camero wrote:

         

        "I may need to take the 36 extra scenes away if I get this request to many times."

         

        Wow - I sure am surprised to see a response like this from a product support manager.  Especially for a perfectly reasonable request.

         

        Sounds like a parent to a child: "if you don't quit bugging me, I will take away your toys".

         

        Line6Renken, I suggest that before you respond to a post that irks you:  step back and have someone read it before posting.  Responses like this can only alienate current and future customers.  It will never win any new ones.

        Actually, when I am going to post a fun and silly answer, I need to remember that not all of you guys are guys that I have been posting back and forth with for the last year and a half. It is funny, you took it just like I meant it. But I was so so so just trying to be fun. Sorry if any of you guys that don't know me misunderstood. I love all the feature requests and suggestions. And from what you have seen in M13 updates and a brand new product (M9) you should know that you guys have been an influence on me and Line 6 as a whole.

         

        And even with that, I even acknowledge that your suggestion to step back is always a good one. But honestly, nothing irks me in the forums at all. Even the harshest critic or complainer is really probably and in most times making a very good point. I may not agree or be able to do anything about it, but I want you guys to know that you have our ears.

         

        Thanks again for your concern, I appreciate it.

  • Line6Hugo Line 6
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    Nov 10, 2009 11:57 AM (in response to Francescofalc)
    RE: Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

    +1 to Rich

       

      You heard it from the product manager, there will be no other method of accessing the additional scenes.

       

      As for which MIDI controller to use with it, there is no single controller we recommend, but the Ground Control is always a solid option.

       

      Regards,

       

      Line6Hugo

    • moonoku Just Startin'
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      Nov 10, 2009 11:05 PM (in response to Line6Hugo)
      Re: RE: Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

      many users who ask to enter the folders with your feet! greetings!! thanks hugo !

    • moonoku Just Startin'
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      Nov 10, 2009 11:28 PM (in response to Line6Hugo)
      Re: RE: Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

      hugo , habla español ?

       

      uso mi m13 en concierto mucho y me gustaria tener un acceso rapido a las 48 scenes ! , eso seria fantastico ! solo con mi m13 tengo todo lo que busco ! estoy por comprar otras dos para mi banda !  saludos  !

       

      ahora pregunto , si tengo un controlador midi ,  de que forma accedo a las 48 scenes ? de esta forma no tendria que agacharme , lo haria con los pies ? con el boton de cambio de bancos ? como seria ? gracias

       

       

      hugo, I use my m13 have quick access to 48 scenes! , That would be fantastic! alone with my m13 I have everything I'm looking for! I want to buy two for my band! greetings!   now wonder if I have a midi controller, how do I access the 48 scenes?

      this will never have to bend down, I would do with their feet? button to change banks?  thanks

  • phil_m Expert Line 6 User
    phil_m
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    Nov 10, 2009 12:09 PM (in response to Francescofalc)
    Re: Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

    Never mind... I accidentally replied to an old thread.

  • mike047 Just Startin'
    mike047
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    Jan 12, 2011 4:51 AM (in response to Francescofalc)
    Re: Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

    hi guys,

     

    I know this is very old topic but I have to ask if anything changed since then in aspect of the delay occuring when using m13 as a midi controller? I have also JVM410h and I am covinced to buy my m13 but only if it will be able to control my jvm with no probems, delays etc. Any update to fix that or is it problem with hardware of m13?

  • jair Just Startin'
    jair
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    Jun 17, 2007
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    Oct 2, 2011 8:58 PM (in response to Francescofalc)
    Re: Some Experiment using M13 as Midi foot controller

    I found another way to control Guitar Rig with M13!

     

    1. Select any SCENE

    2. Enable LOOPER CONTROLS

    3. Asign a controller in GUITAR  RIG and clic LISTEN

    4. Tap any of the buttons of assigned to the Looper (UNDO, PLAY ONCE, PRE/POST, etc)

    5. Repeat the process for the other switches

     

    Notice that you will need to press two times some of the buttons to see them in action.

     

    This is the configuration i found as the most convenient

     

    UNDO - Previous preset

    PLAY ONCE - Next Preset

    PRE/POST - RKKickDown

    Expresion Pedal 1 - RK Pedal

    RECORD/OVERDUB - RK Switch 1

    PLAY/STOP - RK Switch 2

    HALF SPEED - RK Switch 3

    REVERSE - RK Switch 4

     

    You will need to turn off your looper volumens (take a look at line 6 M!3 manual to find out how to do this) and be sure your M13 midi configuration is set to Omni as the GR software

     

    I love my M13 but on time to time i use GR as amp simulator

     

    *I figured this out because the looper uses midi events so, I just did a test with a midi sofware and found that those are sent as CC#80, CC#82, etc..

     

    hope this helps

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